Dregs of society!

[boatshed bill]

It's not the sort of thing that's discussed the grey squirrels are fair game & legal the red variety are the complete opposite.

Fair enough, I suppose, but certainly not the sort of thing we do down here in Devon.
Our posh folk just charge around on horses scaring most animals out of their wits... and call it sport

[Rowls]

There's no excusing the behaviour in the OP or some of what's listed in this thread, but perhaps it might be a worthwhile exercise for some of you to read back your own posts and ask why the younger generations would show respect or deference for a society that thinks of them in those terms.

This quicky becomes a circular justification: The youth are acting immorally because their elders are disdainful about them. And then their elders are rude about them because ...

What we have to ask is which of these two reinforcing beliefs do we want to give primacy to?

Do we want immorality to be met with disdain?

Or

Do we want disdain to be met with [more] immorality?

[karatekid]

If the rider of the e-bike does not have a protective helmet on the police are not allowed to pursue them in case the rider falls off and sustains head injuries. A balaclava is not considered to be protective head wear so no pursuit is initiated.

[Rowls]

If the rider of the e-bike does not have a protective helmet on the police are not allowed to pursue them in case the rider falls off and sustains head injuries. A balaclava is not considered to be protective head wear so no pursuit is initiated.

It's a very big problem and seemingly growing rapidly.

But there's also a very easy solution:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c33zz00kpzxo

This should be widespread. There ought to be fliers going through every letter box with a hotline number telling you how to report an illegal ebike or motorbike being ridden illegally. There should be a unit set up to deal with it specifically.

They ought to be publicizing every bike they seize and destroy and putting it on every social media platform for these wipes to see the consequences of behaving this way. It would cease pretty damned quickly if this happened.

[Boss Hogg]

If the rider of the e-bike does not have a protective helmet on the police are not allowed to pursue them in case the rider falls off and sustains head injuries. A balaclava is not considered to be protective head wear so no pursuit is initiated.

Will the police not chase you in your car if you are not wearing a seat belt ? Or if you are on horseback without a riding hat ? Just pathetic

[karatekid]

I watched that clip which then led on to another clip showing a policeman commandeering a push bike to catch a drug dealer. Well done that officer.

[atlantalad]

It’s time to bring in draconian measures. We should reverted to bringing back stocks in town centres as a deterrent. Name and publicly humiliate these **** bags. I’m sure the perpetrators would not feel so ‘proud’ in front of their mates after being pelted with rotten tomatoes, fish, sponges soaked in stale ale ( insert weapon of choice) for an hour or two on a Saturday afternoon by the passing public.

Could raise money for charities if properly managed. Would provide great public entertainment and be a deterrent at the same time.

[wilks_bfc]

I watched that clip which then led on to another clip showing a policeman commandeering a push bike to catch a drug dealer. Well done that officer.

When I watched the clip, the video that followed was the funeral procession of the 2 “completely innocent” lads from Cardiff that died whilst being pursued by police

[Tribesmen]

I think the biggest fear for my mother when I was growing up if I got my name in the local paper .

[pureclaret]

No pursuit is worth putting lives at risk. (from an op)

But what about the failure to purse putting others at risk, what happens when some one is hurt or worse by these ebike riders , and the family then sue the police for failure to act and police officers lose there job .

What I cant understand is that they are illegal to ride without number plates driving licences and must over 18 yrs on the road and on the pavement and can only be ridden on prt / public land with the permission of the owners. seems easy to ban the sale of them and stop every one and if not meeting the requirements taken and destroyed

[TsarBomba]

No pursuit is worth putting lives at risk. (from an op)

But what about the failure to purse putting others at risk, what happens when some one is hurt or worse by these ebike riders , and the family then sue the police for failure to act and police officers lose there job .

What I cant understand is that they are illegal to ride without number plates driving licences and must over 18 yrs on the road and on the pavement and can only be ridden on prt / public land with the permission of the owners. seems easy to ban the sale of them and stop every one and if not meeting the requirements taken and destroyed

There’s risk either way. They ride like idiots at the best of times, and when pursued by Police their desperation and recklessness increases even further.

My response was to a comment about perceived lack of effort from the Police which is far from the truth. It’s dangerous work, with the real risk of death and/or serious injury. It’s very easy to criticise from the sidelines when you don’t know the reality.

[pureclaret]

There’s risk either way. They ride like idiots at the best of times, and when pursued by Police their desperation and recklessness increases even further.

My response was to a comment about perceived lack of effort from the Police which is far from the truth. It’s dangerous work, with the real risk of death and/or serious injury. It’s very easy to criticise from the sidelines when you don’t know the reality.

I have never been a Police officer, but have known quite a few and did get offers for Cheshire, Yorkshire (until they realised i was 1/4 inch to small )and the Met but decided not to in the end. So I know that there are not many jobs that people do that can end with them being injured or worse in the performance of there jobs. But I think that the higher ups need to worry more about innocent people being hurt by criminals before it happens and not that the said criminals may get off as they had not hurt any one.

[Tackler49]

If the police don’t won’t,”can’t” do anything about it these moron’s maybe it’s time for vigilante’s the police soon act then because you can’t take the law into your own hands I know that the police can’t be everywhere but when you report an incident they always seem to be “busy”

[bobinho]

There's no excusing the behaviour in the OP or some of what's listed in this thread, but perhaps it might be a worthwhile exercise for some of you to read back your own posts and ask why the younger generations would show respect or deference for a society that thinks of them in those terms.

To be fair, most people make those sort of judgements AFTER the scrotes have behaved antisocially…
We are dealing with third generation arseholes now.

[jrgbfc]

Sorry to go a bit off topic but those teenage scrotes from Leicester who kicked that elderly Indian bloke to death in a park have basically just got off scot free. The girl involved hasn't even been sent to a young offenders.
Scary times ahead, i'm only 40 and feel like society is completely screwed.

[Claretprinter]

As a legal e-bike rider can I point out that the scrotes bombing about on the roads are actually riding e-motorbikes.

Sur-ron bikes with a throttle on the handlebars.
E-bikes you have to pedal.

And yes it winds me up, the press say e-bikes all the time.
We often see groups of off road scrambler motorbikes just riding around on the main road without a care in the world, but dont insure your car.....

[AfloatinClaret]

The type of animal cruelty noted in the original post is hardly new, I can recall 50+ years ago when a group of lads from a nearby town considered that a fun way to end an evening out at the local pubs and night club was to drive out to a nearby village and feed domestos-soaked bread to the ducks on the village pond. What has perhaps changed over the intervening years is the resolution:
With both the local residents (mostly farmers and their sons) and police began keeping an eye out for a re-visit, the miscreants were apprehended (by the local lads) in the early hours of the following Saturday morning and by pure coincidence a police patrol car arrived while this 'citizens-arrest' was still underway. Rather than their immediately taking charge of proceedings, the policemen elected to 'take a drive up to the next village to see if there are any more of them up there'; returning fifteen minutes later to formally arrest those young scrotes and arrange for their transportation to custody, by way of the hospitals A&E department.

[pureclaret]

Claretprinter Are E bike's supposed to have a plate / sticker that says what power it generates when pedalling and that it cuts out above a certain speed. So really if all bikes are checked would that not cut this down .I have an ebike in my shed been out once on it but found it was cold when you get upto 15 miles hr but once the good weather comes back ill go out again (I do have problem in that the front wheels valve is different from the rear so I may have to by to pumps to pump the tyres up the rear one has a longer shaft so the pump i have does not form a seal)