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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by jlup1980 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:58 pm

This has been 12 months in the making so it's hardly a surprise. He wanted to leave last summer. Maybe the club came to an agreement with Trafford in order to get another season out of him? We aren't usually a club that stands in the way of player progress; it's one of the reasons we get young talent through the door. £30m plus is a difficult fee for a club of our size to turn down. Hopefully we can get a bidding war between two and three clubs to push it up, but how many would have thought £30m was possible 12 months ago?
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:10 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:09 pm
Not sure there’s much benefit to a sell on. Successful GKs at Champions League clubs rarely move these days.
Real Madrid or Barcelona will find 100m down the back sofa if he does well.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:12 pm

The way Traff played in our last Premier league league season was down to our porus back 4 and the nonsense of playing out from the back against lightening quick players.He has come on vastly and personally we ask for North of £40m to deter chancers like Newcastle.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by warksclaret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:17 pm

The Premier League are confirming in the next few days which clubs are in clear breach of PSR rules and Villa and Newcastle are apparently top of the offenders and liable for penalties

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by NewClaret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:18 pm

jlup1980 wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:58 pm
This has been 12 months in the making so it's hardly a surprise. He wanted to leave last summer. Maybe the club came to an agreement with Trafford in order to get another season out of him? We aren't usually a club that stands in the way of player progress; it's one of the reasons we get young talent through the door. £30m plus is a difficult fee for a club of our size to turn down. Hopefully we can get a bidding war between two and three clubs to push it up, but how many would have thought £30m was possible 12 months ago?
Not many. There was some absolutely laughable comments on here that we’d have to sell him at a huge loss last summer.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by scouseclaret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:27 pm

burnley007 wrote:
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£50m for Esteve. We'll see.

https://www.footballinsider247.com/excl ... y-signing/
£100m to Kompany - he can fulfil his own prophecy!
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by AfloatinClaret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:17 pm

Spijed wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 11:54 am
...If we bought him for £15 million, sell for £30 million that's £3 million, leaving us with just a £12 million profit.

Not much is it?
Conversely £12m profit on a 15m investment equates to 80%, which spread over two years, is 40% per annum.
If you consider this 'Not much' would you mind posting details of what you're investing in, as I'm sure we'd all like to be getting in to the same equity funds

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:37 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 11:47 am
For context, only 3 goalkeepers in the entire history of world football have been sold for more than £35m. In all three cases we are taking about GKs who were playing at the top and of major leagues and European football.

Acting like £30m (even if it’s true) is some kind of ridiculous bargain, just isn’t born out by everything that’s gone before.
Fair, but contextually there has been massive inflation since the pandemic. Feels like about 25% in society at large (without checking). No doubts much of that will trickle into football transfers.

£30m is too cheap for Trafford. Old stats of sales aren’t relevant any more.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:40 pm

30 million plus they have to give us 6 points this season

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Big Vinny K » Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:45 pm

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:17 pm
Conversely £12m profit on a 15m investment equates to 80%, which spread over two years, is 40% per annum.
If you consider this 'Not much' would you mind posting details of what you're investing in, as I'm sure we'd all like to be getting in to the same equity funds
When you take into account agents fees, spreading the payments over 3 or 4 years, plus factoring costs, interest on our loans….works out at around 3 hundred quid profit (probably !!)

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:54 pm

Anyone else glad the window closes even if just for a few days tonight.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Mattster » Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:57 pm

My hunch is Trafford ends up back at City. Their goalkeeper situation is up in the air and if offers from Newcastle get close to their buyback I think they'll activate it for a couple of reasons.

1) To secure a homegrown long term number 1 for themselves.
2) To prevent Newcastle from having him. They'll see Newcastle as long term competitors and they'll also know if he goes to Newcastle they'll never be able to get him out of there for a fee anywhere close to £40m
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Row x » Tue Jun 10, 2025 3:03 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:54 pm
Anyone else glad the window closes even if just for a few days tonight.
Probably, but they'll still make up stories

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Tall Paul » Tue Jun 10, 2025 3:40 pm

scouseclaret wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:27 pm
£100m to Kompany - he can fulfil his own prophecy!
Didn't he make that comment months before Esteve was signed?

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Re: Summer transfer window

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by clarets1978 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 4:19 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:54 pm
Anyone else glad the window closes even if just for a few days tonight.
A transfer window closes and no signings? Just like the previous board this! Not good enough :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by EMANTO2 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:01 pm

Mike Garlick Era - Championship title, Europa League finish and over 5 consecutive years in the prem cant be giving that ****

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by NewClaret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:04 pm

Mattster wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:57 pm
My hunch is Trafford ends up back at City. Their goalkeeper situation is up in the air and if offers from Newcastle get close to their buyback I think they'll activate it for a couple of reasons.

1) To secure a homegrown long term number 1 for themselves.
2) To prevent Newcastle from having him. They'll see Newcastle as long term competitors and they'll also know if he goes to Newcastle they'll never be able to get him out of there for a fee anywhere close to £40m
I agree. A buy and loan back makes perfect sense to me.

I really don’t think he’ll end up at Newcastle. I think a few big clubs might join the fun this summer and that might spur City in to action.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:34 pm

It would be very “City like” to re-sign Trafford then loan him straight out for a year, that’s probably the ideal scenario for us. A hefty fee and the player for another 12 months .

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:37 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:04 pm
I agree. A buy and loan back makes perfect sense to me.
This isn’t allowed. If Man City buy Trafford they won’t be able to loan him out to another PL side in the summer window.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:38 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:34 pm
It would be very “City like” to re-sign Trafford then loan him straight out for a year, that’s probably the ideal scenario for us. A hefty fee and the player for another 12 months .
It would be very City like in that it would be in contravention of the rules. See post above.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Socrates » Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:51 pm

clarets1978 wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 4:19 pm
A transfer window closes and no signings? Just like the previous board this! Not good enough :lol: :lol: :lol:
Signed four players.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by NewClaret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:54 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:37 pm
This isn’t allowed. If Man City buy Trafford they won’t be able to loan him out to another PL side in the summer window.
Is that with all players you buy? Can’t immediately loan them out?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:56 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:54 pm
Is that with all players you buy? Can’t immediately loan them out?
Can’t loan PL to PL in the same window the player is purchased.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:01 pm

Then the best case scenario for us is that we get a bidding war on the go . I’d like him to stay this season and help us to stay up against the odds but if anyone goes this summer it’s probably going to be him

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:53 pm

I think Trafford would benefit massively from a season with us. Plenty of action and a real chance to showcase his ability and challenge Pickford for the England No1 spot.
But money talks.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:56 pm

Henderson picked for tonight's friendly in a massive snub for Traff.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Mattster » Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:57 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:56 pm
Henderson picked for tonight's friendly in a massive snub for Traff.
Better for us, would imagine there's an add on to City as soon as he gets an England cap. If he's leaving anyway (which seems the more likely) better we don't have to pay anything extra before he goes.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by alwaysaclaret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:00 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:53 pm
I think Trafford would benefit massively from a season with us. Plenty of action and a real chance to showcase his ability and challenge Pickford for the England No1 spot.
But money talks.
Couldn't agree more on the basis that Parker wouldn't throw him under the bus in the same way kompany did, I was a massive critic of Trafford in that Premier league season, but he has certainly taken it on board and improved in area's he needed to, however I still believe there's a bit of a way to go before he's world class as lot's describe him, and I believe the best place right now is to stay where he is. But then as you say, money talks, for both club and player unfortunately, but I would hope if he does move on we get closer to £40m than £30m.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by NewClaret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:00 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:56 pm
Can’t loan PL to PL in the same window the player is purchased.
Ah, fair enough, scrap that then.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Cooclaret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:08 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:56 pm
Henderson picked for tonight's friendly in a massive snub for Traff.
Not really, Traff will get his time.

He's always known his trajectory and home.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:10 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:56 pm
Henderson picked for tonight's friendly in a massive snub for Traff.
It would have been more of a snub had he picked Trafford over Henderson…

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:19 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:56 pm
Henderson picked for tonight's friendly in a massive snub for Traff.
I think that was to be expected.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ecc » Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:38 pm

EarbyClaret wrote:
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Chelsea have signed CB Mamadou Sarr from Strasbourg - not sure whether or not that has any bearing on the CJER situation

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... dq883g9dzo
I wonder how the financing of that deal is worked out.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Conroy92 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:41 pm

The club have released a CJ first goal and blocks video.
I like the use of 'first goal'

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ecc » Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:44 pm

Conroy92 wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:38 am
If I was looking at Villa I would rather have a punt on Luca Digne
I would love to see Digne at TM (not scoring a brace against us though) but it's not going to happen.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:27 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:56 pm
Can’t loan PL to PL in the same window the player is purchased.
There's two windows this summer though, isn't there?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:30 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:27 pm
There's two windows this summer though, isn't there?
Not anymore. The first one slammed shut today, surprised you missed all the excitement.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:33 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:30 pm
Not anymore. The first one slammed shut today, surprised you missed all the excitement.
I was creosoting the fence.

Did we pounce?
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by AfloatinClaret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:44 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:33 pm
I was creosoting the fence...
Me too.... Not the funest of tasks.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:48 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:33 pm
I was creosoting the fence.

Did we pounce?
Hope it did what it says on the tin.

The lights are off and we’ve told Kaveh Solhekol to stand down.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:15 pm

Window reopens on Monday 16 June

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:39 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:27 pm
There's two windows this summer though, isn't there?
Yes, first one from 1st June until 7 pm today. Next opens next Monday.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:41 pm

If it was up to me the transfer window would open and close daily in the summer months like Wall Street. Imagine how exciting it would be to have a transfer deadline day every day.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:18 pm

Transfer window should be 2 weeks and done
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by bumba » Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:44 am

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Jun 09, 2025 3:28 pm
Unless we sign anyone better than the above two, then yes
Neither has been seen to be better in their limited games or play in a similar role
Ramsey has played similar and is capable in that role, Amdouni can play in the 10 mean Cullen and Hannibal can sit

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Dark Cloud » Wed Jun 11, 2025 7:34 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:33 pm
I was creosoting the fence.

Did we pounce?
Do they still make creosote? It's foul stuff!!

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by NewClaret » Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:44 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:18 pm
Transfer window should be 2 weeks and done
Two weeks in summer before pre season starts, one week first week of Jan.

Sign me up.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by clarets1978 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:21 am

Socrates wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:51 pm
Signed four players.
They were already here. I wanted new players!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by RVclaret » Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:23 pm

Seems like we are holding out for a number ‘well in excess of £30m’ for Trafford:

https://x.com/lukeedwardstele/status/19 ... 50851?s=46

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