Bellingham to Dortmund fee

[NewClaret]

At the end of the day he’s moved from Sunderland to Borussia Dortmund, relegation battle to Champions League football, which is a massive step up. And he’s following a route that has proven successful for a number of young, emerging, players. Not least his own brother.

You’re right, there are no guarantees in life, but he’d be daft to turn that down.

It’s a good point about Champions League football and a good move for him, I think. My point was more that I think it shows he knows he’s not ready for the Premier League yet. Nothing wrong with that.

He could become a world beater or the next Dele Alli, I’m not sure, but a huge fee to pay against his current performance levels I’d say. There’s a big old ‘potential’ tax in there. Dortmund have a great record for turning big profits on this kind of signing though so I wouldn’t shock me to see it pay dividends.

Great business for Sunderland though in the meantime. Invested wisely and they’ll end up stronger next season.

[CyrilEbokiPoh]

Excellent player at a very early stage in his career and an excellent move to a top club, who have a reputation of developing players before they get a bigger move. As well as developing their reputation.

This looks like a rare occasion where its a good deal for all three parties!

[taio]

No it doesn’t. I was responding to a completely different question.

If you’d asked me why I thought they were worth double, I’d have said because I think they’re twice as good as him or certainly are at the moment. He’s been very average this season while they have been outstanding.

He hasn't been very average. But Borussia Dortmund haven't signed him just based on his performance last season. It's fanciful to think Trafford and Esteve are worth €60m each. The market will demonstrate this.

[Rileybobs]

It’s a good point about Champions League football and a good move for him, I think. My point was more that I think it shows he knows he’s not ready for the Premier League yet. Nothing wrong with that.

I can’t see how signing for Dortmund shows that he’s not ready for the Premier League. How does that make any sense? He probably doesn’t think a season playing for the PL relegation favourites is as appealing or lucrative as playing Champions League football for a huge club in Germany.

[bobinho]

If he’s going for that money, the games gone. He would’ve been a bench warmer for us last season.

[bobinho]

Excellent player at a very early stage in his career and an excellent move to a top club, who have a reputation of developing players before they get a bigger move. As well as developing their reputation.

This looks like a rare occasion where its a good deal for all three parties!

He most certainly is NOT an excellent player. His brother is, but he isn’t…. Yet.

He may develop into one, but equally he may not.

That money is absolutely bizarre.

[ecc]

There's something about these brothers. They are real athletes, they glide across the pitch and look "players" even without touching the ball.

I find with Jude that he often seems to go missing but has the very fortunate knack of suddenly popping up in the box at the right time. I think he does put a shift in but unless you focus your attention on him, you don't notice it.

And that's how I see Jobe too.

Josh Brownhill last season seemed to be like this. How many times did he ghost in on one side of the box? And he often didn't seem to be involved. But he was involved as he was closing down. We didn't have any passengers last season (understatement).

[GodIsADeeJay81]

19 yrs old
Contract until 2028
Has been improving, continuously

Not a bad price that if he continues that trajectory, because they know how to get good money for their players at Dortmund

[CyrilEbokiPoh]

He most certainly is NOT an excellent player. His brother is, but he isn’t…. Yet.

He may develop into one, but equally he may not.

That money is absolutely bizarre.

He is a teenager who was a key cog in an unfancied Sunderland side that has:

Won promotion
Won PFA young player of the year
Was in the PFA team of the season

He made his football league debut at 16 and has made over 100 championship appearances at 19.

People use his name against him not for him.

Saying he’s only getting the big move based on his brothers name is the same as people were saying he’s only starting because of his name. Probably the same people said he only got his awards because of his name. (Despite being influential in his promotion).

If it was based on names, Joe Rodriguez would have been playing for us when Jay broke through!

His stats are better in both his seasons at this level for Sunderland than Josh Cullen for us (who is probably my favourite player so no slight on him).

[bobinho]

He was in a side that won promotion… so were 32 other players.

He won the PFA young player of the year award. Fair enough, well done Jobe.

He was in the PFA team of the season - I’d argue only because Burnley and Leeds had already had their three allowed players in other positions. Had he played for us this season, he would’ve got some game time I’m sure, but only like Laurent did, off the bench and covering for injuries. I’ll qualify that by asking who he’d start ahead of for us last season?

Josh Cullen was pivotal in our promotion, absolutely key to what we do. Essential even, and in a side that won automatic promotion with 100 points. I’d argue that he’s more important to us than Jobe was to Sunlan. Brownhills figures embarrass him.

I’ve nowt against the lad, really I don’t, and he could well make it like his brother has - and I hope he does, but I just don’t see £30m there right now. I don’t even see £10m.

[jlup1980]

This is a good transfer for us. It weakens Sunderland significantly. Jobe has all the attributes to become a top player and I'm sure Dortmund will progress his career.

There's no doubt in my mind that he was the stand out player at the Turf this season. I walked off hoping we'd get promoted and Sunderland wouldn't, and we'd somehow steal him away from them this summer! He looked absolute class in moments. Maybe not for the whole 90 minutes, but he's a young lad so what do you expect. His physicality and ability to run with the ball was clearly too much for our midfield.

He reminded me a bit of seeing Declan Rice play for West Ham at the Turf when he was a kid. The game passed him by at times too, but he showed flashes of real quality. I like to think I have a good eye for spotting a good player, and young Jobe looked a good one for me. Still only 19 years old, crikey!

[CyrilEbokiPoh]

This is a good transfer for us. It weakens Sunderland significantly. Jobe has all the attributes to become a top player and I'm sure Dortmund will progress his career.

There's no doubt in my mind that he was the stand out player at the Turf this season. I walked off hoping we'd get promoted and Sunderland wouldn't, and we'd somehow steal him away from them this summer! He looked absolute class in moments. Maybe not for the whole 90 minutes, but he's a young lad so what do you expect. His physicality and ability to run with the ball was clearly too much for our midfield.

He reminded me a bit of seeing Declan Rice play for West Ham at the Turf when he was a kid. The game passed him by at times too, but he showed flashes of real quality. I like to think I have a good eye for spotting a good player, and young Jobe looked a good one for me. Still only 19 years old, crikey!

The comparison I had was also Declan rice. Agree completely. That game v West Ham (think was 0-0 also) was very similar performance from both.

[Rileybobs]

That Declan Rice performance was one of the most dominant displays by a single player I can remember seeing at the Turf.

[ClaretTony]

Transfer confirmed with SSN reporting a £32m fee

[TsarBomba]

Jobe will be hoping that he is more liked in the Dortmund dressing room than his big bother was.

[Spijed]

This is a good transfer for us. It weakens Sunderland significantly. Jobe has all the attributes to become a top player and I'm sure Dortmund will progress his career.

There's no doubt in my mind that he was the stand out player at the Turf this season. I walked off hoping we'd get promoted and Sunderland wouldn't, and we'd somehow steal him away from them this summer! He looked absolute class in moments. Maybe not for the whole 90 minutes, but he's a young lad so what do you expect. His physicality and ability to run with the ball was clearly too much for our midfield.

He reminded me a bit of seeing Declan Rice play for West Ham at the Turf when he was a kid. The game passed him by at times too, but he showed flashes of real quality. I like to think I have a good eye for spotting a good player, and young Jobe looked a good one for me. Still only 19 years old, crikey!

I wasn't unduly worried about Sunderland as I expected to finish to finish above them.

[JohnMac]

Excellent business by Sunderland and a good move for the Player. Won't have to read all the social media and press negativity stuff anytime he makes a mistake.

[jlup1980]

I wasn't unduly worried about Sunderland as I expected to finish to finish above them.

I wasn't worried about Sunderland as such, but they were very good at the Turf. They impressed me far more than Leeds or Sheff Utd. I thought their midfield was particularly strong. Bellingham, Neil and Le Fee all looked very good.

[CyrilEbokiPoh]

I wasn't worried about Sunderland as such, but they were very good at the Turf. They impressed me far more than Leeds or Sheff Utd. I thought their midfield was particularly strong. Bellingham, Neil and Le Fee all looked very good.

Agreed. And they are likely to be at least as attractive as us to new players. They arent going to look at where they finished last season. They are going to look at the stadium, facilities and above all else the division theyre in now and what they will be paid!