Sergeant has scored more goals. Same league.Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 6:48 pmFlemming will be a star next season and to suggest Sargent with his injury and goals record is a suitable replacement is just wrong.
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Sergeant scored more goals in less games in a worse team last season. I like Flemming he's a likeable player and gives his all but I haven't seen any attributes yet that suggest he'll be a 'star' in the premier leagueWoodleyclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 6:48 pmFlemming will be a star next season and to suggest Sargent with his injury and goals record is a suitable replacement is just wrong.Ash will play a big part next season not just on the pitch.If we can hand onto Zeki Amoundi he will link up well with Flemming and Edwards.
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Sargent is the better goalscorer but that is but a portion of the centre forwards job in the Premier League. The bigger part of the job is providing an outlet and providing the physical edge to give us a platform. I have my doubts that Sargent has that physicality.
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Does the lack of forward activity point to Zeki staying?
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Didn't Norwich create more chances and score more goals than us?
I'd say Flemming is the better all-round footballer, so has a better chance of making it in the PL. However, I don't think he will be used as a target-man as such.
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He’s about 6ft 2 or 3. He’s a unit who links up really well and wins headers. My Norwich city supporting mate says he’s a real player. Has it all apparently and from what I’ve seen of him he was one of the only strikers last season to actually turn our back 4 that second half when he came on. I was impressed with himclaretspice wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:07 pmSargent is the better goalscorer but that is but a portion of the centre forwards job in the Premier League. The bigger part of the job is providing an outlet and providing the physical edge to give us a platform. I have my doubts that Sargent has that physicality.
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He's more like 6ft 1 but clearly has a physical presence when needed.blatherwickstattoos wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:26 pmHe’s about 6ft 2 or 3. He’s a unit who links up really well and wins headers. My Norwich city supporting mate says he’s a real player. Has it all apparently and from what I’ve seen of him he was one of the only strikers last season to actually turn our back 4 that second half when he came on. I was impressed with him
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I remember him coming on for the 2nd half in our home game and was surprised at his size and physique. Looked pretty good and caused us a few problems. Whether he could step up to the Prem would be my concern and he wouldn't be particularly cheap.
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Thought Flemming was really poor at this last season, he was so stressful at times throwing himself on the floor asking for a foul when no defender was near him.claretspice wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:07 pmSargent is the better goalscorer but that is but a portion of the centre forwards job in the Premier League. The bigger part of the job is providing an outlet and providing the physical edge to give us a platform. I have my doubts that Sargent has that physicality.
He didn't get away with that in the championship he definitely won't in the premier league, at least Sergeant can running behind which would give us a better option
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Maybe they scored and created more because their main striker was more of a threat?boatshed bill wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:13 pmDidn't Norwich create more chances and score more goals than us?
I'd say Flemming is the better all-round footballer, so has a better chance of making it in the PL. However, I don't think he will be used as a target-man as such.
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I just think there will be better value abroad
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The only reason to sign Josh Sargent is if Brownhill is off and we continue with the “Joshua Triangle”
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I've recently moved to Norfolk and know a few Norwich season tickets holders well - they rate him extremely highly and a class above the rest of their players and anyone they've had for some time. They reckon it'd take £20 million to get him though.
He's had a couple of injuries the last few years, which kept him out for about 4 months (Autumn 2023) and then 2 months (xmas 2024), but his Championship goalscoring record was impressive.
2023/24 season a goal every 132 minutes (16 goals)
2024/25 season a goal every 167 minutes (15 goals)
Also the fact he's American would appeal you'd expect (to some at least!) and at 25 he's still fairly young.
He's had a couple of injuries the last few years, which kept him out for about 4 months (Autumn 2023) and then 2 months (xmas 2024), but his Championship goalscoring record was impressive.
2023/24 season a goal every 132 minutes (16 goals)
2024/25 season a goal every 167 minutes (15 goals)
Also the fact he's American would appeal you'd expect (to some at least!) and at 25 he's still fairly young.
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'Insider' says we want Soucek on loan with a guaranteed sale if we stay up. The writer has said he has spoken to someone in Soucek's camp. With a loan fee he would probably cost us about £10m so it might be worth paying the £90k a week for a season as he could make the difference.
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He’s out of contract next summer so how can the deal be for a guaranteed sale next summer? He’ll be gone regardless.Commy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:26 am'Insider' says we want Soucek on loan with a guaranteed sale if we stay up. The writer has said he has spoken to someone in Soucek's camp. With a loan fee he would probably cost us about £10m so it might be worth paying the £90k a week for a season as he could make the difference.
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Sargent is far too lightweight for the Prem. You’ve got to be world class to carry that frame nowadays.
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He definitely used to be, but I think he's filled out now.UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:39 amSargent is far too lightweight for the Prem. You’ve got to be world class to carry that frame nowadays.
Looked a bit of a unit when he came on for Norwich at the Turf, and as blatherwickstattoos pointed out, caused our defence a lot of problems with his runs off the shoulder of the last man.
Is he a PL striker? Tough one - not fully convinced.

^ 6ft1, far from lightweight
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Sunderland signing a £30m centre midfielder. It’s going to be a particularly tough season next season.
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I’ve seen a lot of Sargent (obvs) and he is nowhere near physical enough for the EPL.
Yes you can argue that he’s built himself up and yada yada yada but he just doesn’t have the mindset to be effective for us.
Sign Sargent and we’ll just have a top Championship player playing in the Premier League.
Is that what we want??
Yes you can argue that he’s built himself up and yada yada yada but he just doesn’t have the mindset to be effective for us.
Sign Sargent and we’ll just have a top Championship player playing in the Premier League.
Is that what we want??
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Foster will be our 9. I honestly think so.
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Based on 1 match away at Villa I presume, because apart from that he’s looked league 1 at best .
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Big money isn’t it. Bellingham replacement. He looks a very exciting and good player. Was really impressed with him v England the other week.
Midfield is a major weak point for us and needs addressing.
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Only 2 strikers caused esteve real problems last season and it was cardiffs bid striker away from home and then Sargent when he came on at the turf.
I know Delap is younger but nobody thought he would be prem level. Ivan Toney another who had bounced around league 1 before Brentford signed him, another nobody thought would be good enough.
I think Sargent has all the tools to be a good prem striker, like anyone though as long as he stays fit
I know Delap is younger but nobody thought he would be prem level. Ivan Toney another who had bounced around league 1 before Brentford signed him, another nobody thought would be good enough.
I think Sargent has all the tools to be a good prem striker, like anyone though as long as he stays fit
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Apart from Esteve I'm struggling to think of a player on our books we can say is actually premier league level right nowCharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:02 amI’ve seen a lot of Sargent (obvs) and he is nowhere near physical enough for the EPL.
Yes you can argue that he’s built himself up and yada yada yada but he just doesn’t have the mindset to be effective for us.
Sign Sargent and we’ll just have a top Championship player playing in the Premier League.
Is that what we want??
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I don't think we will have any EPL standard players in the team next season. However I think the play style will reflect a sum greater than parts approach.
I am confident that sp will have to a plan and will have identified players to suit that plan.
That said we have a lot of dead wood to move on outgoings are probably more important at this stage to free up squad places and wages.
I am confident that sp will have to a plan and will have identified players to suit that plan.
That said we have a lot of dead wood to move on outgoings are probably more important at this stage to free up squad places and wages.
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That is the whole point of difference. Brentford, Bournemouth and Brighton will let their top performers leave for good money and decent returns and will recruit replacements from overseas using performance data and a top quality scouting system. When the season kicks off they won’t be starting it with a squad of basically Championship level players.
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Let’s face it won’t know if any of them are until around Christmas time. Our stint was so bad last time I would say it’s hard to say any are.
But let’s face we are team where it’s about the sum of its parts not the individual talent.
I have a lot more confidence in this squad than the last one
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Sargent would be a great signing. He’s improved massively since he first went to Norwich in the Prem. Always makes me laugh when people say we shouldn’t be buying top championship players for the Prem. Tuanzebe apart, we’ve just signed two that have never played at that level. We’re Burnley!!
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Sargent, for the price, would be a poor signing, in my view. Not the profile of striker I’m hoping we are looking at.
I’d much prefer Ivanovic from Union SG, or the other Ivanovic at Millwall (Everton suggested to be looking at him), or Abline from Nantes. All likely to be around the same price.
I’d much prefer Ivanovic from Union SG, or the other Ivanovic at Millwall (Everton suggested to be looking at him), or Abline from Nantes. All likely to be around the same price.
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Do you think we will go for a striker this summer?RVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 8:36 amSargent, for the price, would be a poor signing, in my view. Not the profile of striker I’m hoping we are looking at.
I’d much prefer Ivanovic from Union SG, or the other Ivanovic at Millwall (Everton suggested to be looking at him), or Abline from Nantes. All likely to be around the same price.
If I’m honest it wasn’t a position I thought we would strengthen
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We have to go for a striker , there’s no ifs and buts about it. We needed one last season and now we are up in the prem if actually say we probably need two in order to rotate and take the pressure off slightly , as Foster is about as unreliable as they get .
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I see your point but that means we probably need to sell at least 2 strikers this window (possibly even three).Hedontplayforyou wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 8:50 amWe have to go for a striker , there’s no ifs and buts about it. We needed one last season and now we are up in the prem if actually say we probably need two in order to rotate and take the pressure off slightly , as Foster is about as unreliable as they get .
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I definitely have more confidence this time round and the signings so far seems targeted and more thought out than last time, we seem to be building a team this time and so far business has been good on paper.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 8:20 amLet’s face it won’t know if any of them are until around Christmas time. Our stint was so bad last time I would say it’s hard to say any are.
But let’s face we are team where it’s about the sum of its parts not the individual talent.
I have a lot more confidence in this squad than the last one
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Newcastle want Traffords potential hence why they want to keep Pope too. We are yet to find out if he is at premier league level right nowRobbie_painter wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 7:51 amNewcastle wanting Trafford might suggest he is premier league level as well.
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Esteve was more than capable 18 months ago
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Look I think everyone rates Esteve very highly
But on the same basis we are saying we don’t know if Trafford is prem quality, Esteve is the same he was still part of the worst defence I think we have seen at the top level and I think we kept 3 clean sheets with him at the back.
I think this season he will prove he is a titan at the back. But all the lads have to step up this season
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After we bought Esteve in January, our form in the Premier League from then on was easily good enough to stay up comfortably!... If we'd brought him in and Assignon at the start of the season instead of the January window, we'd have stayed up.by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:29 am
But on the same basis we are saying we don’t know if Trafford is prem quality, Esteve is the same he was still part of the worst defence I think we have seen at the top level and I think we kept 3 clean sheets with him at the back.
I think this season he will prove he is a titan at the back. But all the lads have to step up this season
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I thought the defence improved significantly with Esteve in there but him individually never put a foot wrong. Trafford was miles out of his depth that seasonNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:29 amLook I think everyone rates Esteve very highly
But on the same basis we are saying we don’t know if Trafford is prem quality, Esteve is the same he was still part of the worst defence I think we have seen at the top level and I think we kept 3 clean sheets with him at the back.
I think this season he will prove he is a titan at the back. But all the lads have to step up this season
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I'm not sure we got that much better, from when Esteve signed, we got 12 points from 15 games and conceded 33 goals in that time. So still less than a point per game and still conceding more than 2 a game on average
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Yousef Salech @ Cardiff, but don't forget Mihailo Ivanović for Milwall - his movement caused both Steve and CJ a lot of problems. He appears to be a promising young talent.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 7:22 amOnly 2 strikers caused esteve real problems last season and it was cardiffs bid striker away from home and then Sargent when he came on at the turf.
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Pre Esteve, we gained an average of 0.52 points per game, post Esteve, it went up to 0.72, which is a significant improvement... Okay, I got carried away with saying that meant we would have stayed up as it is slightly short of the required points per game average, but if we had started the season like that, Esteve and the rest would likely have gained more confidence and improved...by matttheclaret » Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:49 am
I'm not sure we got that much better, from when Esteve signed, we got 12 points from 15 games and conceded 33 goals in that time. So still less than a point per game and still conceding more than 2 a game on average
It certainly would have given us a more solid platform with more points to further strengthen in January... A few weeks before that season started, I said that we had a bad summer window and that it would be a disaster because we had bought in the wrong areas of the pitch... Everyone in here laughed at me for saying that, but it proved to be 100% correct...
If we had bought Esteve or similar quality at the start of that season, I'm convinced we would have stayed up... Statistically and points-wise, we certainly would have had more chance of doing so anyway!
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I wasn’t sold on him from Millwall, I actually thought it was colburn that caused them more problemsCoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 10:10 amYousef Salech @ Cardiff, but don't forget Mihailo Ivanović for Milwall - his movement caused both Steve and CJ a lot of problems. He appears to be a promising young talent.