Cricket field stand

[ArmchairDetective]

What exactly is the ‘work’ thats being done ?

Iv heard rumours that they are swapping the home and away fans round and moving the tunnel to the Bob Lord/CFS corner.

Think there may be some apologies to the OP needed from a couple of people on this thread.

[Leisure]

Think there may be some apologies to the OP needed from a couple of people on this thread.

Really!

[bumba]

Think there may be some apologies to the OP needed from a couple of people on this thread.

It would make sense to be honest not that I'm claiming to be in the know but they'd block the entrance down the cricket club off to home fans meaning the coaches could pull up all down that road and stay there until the end. Away fans would be straight in to the cricket club pre match too then it'd cause a minor issue to home fans who use that entrance and exit but apart from that it really would sort a lot of issues.

[Goliath]

At a cost of £45m quite a few years ago.

Wouldn't the cost be divided over at least 2 years though, possibly 3 depending on how quickly it went from planning to completion.

20 million or so a year for 2 or 3 years is doable for us as a Prem club. If we went down it becomes a real burden on our finances in trying to get back up and there in lies the problem.

[ArmchairDetective]

It would make sense to be honest not that I'm claiming to be in the know but they'd block the entrance down the cricket club off to home fans meaning the coaches could pull up all down that road and stay there until the end. Away fans would be straight in to the cricket club pre match too then it'd cause a minor issue to home fans who use that entrance and exit but apart from that it really would sort a lot of issues.

Just the start of it.

[blatherwickstattoos]

So they are moving everyone’s season tickets from the cricket field this season to the where the away fans were ????

[NewClaret]

Just the start of it.

You can’t drop an exciting teaser like this and not tell us what you know AD?

[NewClaret]

So they are moving everyone’s season tickets from the cricket field this season to the where the away fans were ????

I can’t see this myself. I imagine they would have to have informed ST holders way before two months before the start of the season. If they were being moved to near the BL, they might have wanted to move stand altogether.

I can’t see the tunnel bit being true. Wilder’s probably done us a favour there. It makes much more sense for players to turn right out of the changing rooms and enter near the BL so they don’t hate to cross the pitch. Then a quick escape when needs be.

[JR1882]

From an ALK point of view it’s probably on their agenda as it would increase the value of the club regardless of what division we are in assuming it can be financed without massively affecting transfer budgets.

And if you bought a club with barely any of your own money and plan to sell it for a few hundred million in a few years then this is a no brainer.

Infrastructure spending is also exempt from FFP and there’s absolutely some creative accounting going on where this is concerned!!

[NewClaret]

You may very well be right, but what irks me is we’ve had how much come through the club in PL money in the past 15 years? A billion? More?

And we haven’t been able to spare £20/30/40M to rebuild the CFS at least? Costs are only ever going up year on year. We’ve probably spent £10M+ in the past 15 years constantly putting in upgrades. It’s a farce, really.

We’re in a sport that throws tens of millions down the drain every year in transfer fees and wages for players that don’t work out. We could’ve part financed a new stand off the back of Mike Tresor alone.

As Jedi says there has to be some legacy to all this. We’ve got the training facilities, but we really must start making some long term decisions about the ground very soon.

Late reply but only just seen this. Couldn’t agree more.

Mike Tresor would pay for that stand and that’s before you consider his wages! I think we all know what we’d prefer in 2-3 years time.

Just keeping on investing in the pitch is no longer an option, in my view. We should be taking a longer term perspective.

I’d also like to see continued investment in the training ground though. It’s good, don’t get me wrong, but others have caught up and significantly overtaken us. I’d love to see us also keep that moving forward and to top Premier League standards.

[NewClaret]

We need to demolish the existing stand for starters, it'll be riddled with asbestos and other contaminated material. Could be 2/3m in that.

Wrexham have a decent bit of land round that stand which we don't other than the car park. This makes it more expensive logistically.

On top of that we need to allow for a temporary structure to house the changing rooms which are all under the existing stand. That could be a couple of million on it's own to meet PL standards of fit out.

Factor in buying the land from the cricket club, and providing adequate compensation, such a new pavilion for example, and things start to add up.

We also have to factor in the logistics of housing away supporters in another part of the ground, and how the segregation measures are put into place.

As a double whammy, we also lose the capacity of the stand in gate receipts during the construction phase, which I estimate including demolition to be at least 12 months.

It's not just the cost of the stand itself.

The club will also want to include some corporate stuff in there to claw back some of the capital outlay.

Sorry for late reply.

I think Wrexham also have a stand to demolish and are putting corporate facilities in the Kop. They’ll also presumably have the income loss while it’s built - not sure if that’s built in to the £14m projection or not.

I accept there are some hidden costs and potentially revenue losses to factor in, but I can’t see it being massively north of £15-£20m to be honest, which is basically what we drop on signings in the Premier League.

Either way, someone is going to have to bite the bullet at some point!

[Tricky Trevor]

Update on Wrexhams new stand.
https://footballgroundguide.com/news/wr ... pment.html

[NewClaret]

Update on Wrexhams new stand.
https://footballgroundguide.com/news/wr ... pment.html

I really like the brick built facade. Would love us to have something in stone and not corrugated steel

[Leisure]

Late reply but only just seen this. Couldn’t agree more.

Mike Tresor would pay for that stand and that’s before you consider his wages! I think we all know what we’d prefer in 2-3 years time.

I'd prefer Tresor helping us stay in the PL!

[Goliath]

I really like the brick built facade. Would love us to have something in stone and not corrugated steel

There's probably a really obvious reason why it's not possible but I've always thought we could make the Bob Lord stand really iconic just by growing ivy up the brick on the outside of it and making it a bit of a feature.

[NewClaret]

I'd prefer Tresor helping us stay in the PL!

That’s a big IF mate!

[NewClaret]

There's probably a really obvious reason why it's not possible but I've always thought we could make the Bob Lord stand really iconic just by growing ivy up the brick on the outside of it and making it a bit of a feature.

I genuinely love a bit ivy. It’s great at covering up eye sores, so I’d be all up for that, although I like the BL brick work. I don’t find it offensive- and much better than the breeze block of the CFS and corrugated steel of the other two.

If there is any development of the CFS I really hope it’s in decent, high quality materials like stone.

[Goliath]

I genuinely love a bit ivy. It’s great at covering up eye sores, so I’d be all up for that, although I like the BL brick work. I don’t find it offensive- and much better than the breeze block of the CFS and corrugated steel of the other two.

If there is any development of the CFS I really hope it’s in decent, high quality materials like stone.

Same. Even just on the new bit around the entrance it'd look great. Makes everything look a bit classier and less cheap.
It would make it pretty unique as well.

[Leisure]

That’s a big IF mate!

It certainly is but that would be my preference.

[bumba]

I can’t see this myself. I imagine they would have to have informed ST holders way before two months before the start of the season. If they were being moved to near the BL, they might have wanted to move stand altogether.

I can’t see the tunnel bit being true. Wilder’s probably done us a favour there. It makes much more sense for players to turn right out of the changing rooms and enter near the BL so they don’t hate to cross the pitch. Then a quick escape when needs be.

They never informed ST holders until the last minute about the safe standing area and that was after tickets had been purchased even though they must have planned it months in advance. Might not seem an issue because everyone stands around there anyway but should still have informed fans to make their own decision

[blatherwickstattoos]

I can’t see this myself. I imagine they would have to have informed ST holders way before two months before the start of the season. If they were being moved to near the BL, they might have wanted to move stand altogether.

I can’t see the tunnel bit being true. Wilder’s probably done us a favour there. It makes much more sense for players to turn right out of the changing rooms and enter near the BL so they don’t hate to cross the pitch. Then a quick escape when needs be.

Exactly. I can’t see it either. Especially so close to the season starting and tickets about to be delivered

[bumba]

Exactly. I can’t see it either. Especially so close to the season starting and tickets about to be delivered

Not sure how the away end is seated but would it not be the same sort of rows and numbers in that end?
If that was the case you'd still use the same seat and row that is on your card

[wilks_bfc]

They never informed ST holders until the last minute about the safe standing area and that was after tickets had been purchased even though they must have planned it months in advance. Might not seem an issue because everyone stands around there anyway but should still have informed fans to make their own decision

But the safe standing area doesn’t really change anything.

As you say, supporters generally stand anyway and the replacement was 1:1 in the same location

It would be like saying supporters should be consulted if the club were replacing the seats in any other stand

[blatherwickstattoos]

Not sure how the away end is seated but would it not be the same sort of rows and numbers in that end?
If that was the case you'd still use the same seat and row that is on your card

In my case I’d need to be exactly where we are due to my dad having a bad hip and being sat next to the exit. Not sure they’d be able to work it out so it’s the same in the away bit

[bumba]

But the safe standing area doesn’t really change anything.

As you say, supporters generally stand anyway and the replacement was 1:1 in the same location

It would be like saying supporters should be consulted if the club were replacing the seats in any other stand

Nothing alike at all, even though the majority stand in this section it is still the correct way to go about things to inform supporters that they'd not be in a seated area and now in a safe standing area.

[bumba]

In my case I’d need to be exactly where we are due to my dad having a bad hip and being sat next to the exit. Not sure they’d be able to work it out so it’s the same in the away bit

Yeh it'd be wise to inform/consult supporters and fully understand where your coming from and hope they don't make a change like this without informing supporters like your dad as that wouldn't be fair.
Time will tell if there's any truth in it I suppose.

[wilks_bfc]

Nothing alike at all, even though the majority stand in this section it is still the correct way to go about things to inform supporters that they'd not be in a seated area and now in a safe standing area.

But they will still be in a seated area

[bumba]

But they will still be in a seated area

It's not the point though is it, if you sit down and everybody else is stood up you won't see the match.
It's morally correct to inform a ST holder of any such changes to their seat

[claretdj]

Went to the kitman sale yesterday in the jimmy mac, looked through the window & NO work started on the rest of the stand rail seating yet. All looked the same as after the Millwall game in may, apart from only 1 goal up on the pitch.

[ClaretTony]

It's not the point though is it, if you sit down and everybody else is stood up you won't see the match.
It's morally correct to inform a ST holder of any such changes to their seat

Mi would think it’s a requirement to inform someone if their seat is going to become part of a safe standing area. I’d assumed this supporters affected had been informed.

[NewClaret]

Went to the kitman sale yesterday in the jimmy mac, looked through the window & NO work started on the rest of the stand rail seating yet. All looked the same as after the Millwall game in may, apart from only 1 goal up on the pitch.

Scotty’s new defensive tactics exposed.

Can’t concede if there’s no goal. At least 19 points guaranteed at home

[bumba]

Mi would think it’s a requirement to inform someone if their seat is going to become part of a safe standing area. I’d assumed this supporters affected had been informed.

I received an email after the work had been completed and months after I'd purchased my ST, should have been months in advance

[Father Jack]

Which row are you bumba?
We’re row N and haven’t had any email unless I’ve missed it

[beddie]

I’m struggling to follow this thread, what has actually been done in c/field stand?

[bumba]

Which row are you bumba?
We’re row N and haven’t had any email unless I’ve missed it

I'm talking about the first batch of safe standing that got put in

[Losing Eyres]

I also went to the kit man sale yesterday.
The lower section of claret seats nearest the BL in the away end had been removed. Presumably being replaced with rail seating starting from that area and working across.

[ClaretsPadiham]

100% happening. Work started today, home and away fans swapped round (seats mirrored). Tunnel from Bob Lord/CFS corner.

Segregation fence at the JH/CFS side where away fans will enter and leave …

[Oldparkwood]

Mine and my lads season ticket are still in the same seats. Nothing at the ticket office to suggest they are to be moved .

Not one to say i told you so.....

[ŽižkovClaret]

100% happening. Work started today, home and away fans swapped round (seats mirrored). Tunnel from Bob Lord/CFS corner.

Segregation fence at the JH/CFS side where away fans will enter and leave …

So both sets of fans will walk up past the Cricket club or will Home fans now have to walk around back past the Jimmy Mac and round?

[Blue Skies]

100% happening, I would think unlikely as there are too many logistical issues not too mention the fans. I am in the "Life on Mars" stand and love where I am. If they moved me on a mirror basis I would be near the BL. Currently I am on the touchline where the lino operates and next to the tunnel. To swap this around without offering a seat swap would be nonsense.

[wilks_bfc]

I’ll hold my hands up if wrong, but I really can’t see this happening.

As others have said it’s would be a logistical nightmare for stewards & policing having both sets of supporters on that side of the ground.

Having the away entrance on HPW allows the coaches to park there, creating a “natural barrier” between fans.
What they really need to do is create some access from HPW to the Cricket Club so that fans don’t have to walk back up and around

[blatherwickstattoos]

Interesting if true. Shocking customer care from the club not to warn anyone though. Just hope my seat is exactly where it was in the other side as I’ve mentioned before my dad needs easy access for his bad hip

[getbennyon]

I’ll hold my hands up if wrong, but I really can’t see this happening.

As others have said it’s would be a logistical nightmare for stewards & policing having both sets of supporters on that side of the ground.

Having the away entrance on HPW allows the coaches to park there, creating a “natural barrier” between fans.
What they really need to do is create some access from HPW to the Cricket Club so that fans don’t have to walk back up and around

Disagree. The old way was better with the coaches parked on Belvedere Road,the away fans go in the Cricket club anyway so this keeps them more isolated.

Brunshaw road should be Burnley fans only

[Goliath]

Wonder if it's the tunnel moving which has led to them swapping the fans. Presumably they wanted the players to come out to the home fans still, so switched them round to match where the new tunnel is (if true)

Why would they need to move the tunnel? Have they moved the changing rooms? Seems odd

[Whitgord]

I can’t see the atmosphere improving if we have the best singers (the cricket field fans) next to us lot in the Bob Lord. I think the away fans should go into the first 3 blocks of the longside lower. I would think our fans already sat there would be happy to move to an all claret cricket field stand.

[ClaretTony]

Wonder if it's the tunnel moving which has led to them swapping the fans. Presumably they wanted the players to come out to the home fans still, so switched them round to match where the new tunnel is (if true)

Why would they need to move the tunnel? Have they moved the changing rooms? Seems odd

And tight fitting a tunnel between the two older stands

[wilks_bfc]

Disagree. The old way was better with the coaches parked on Belvedere Road,the away fans go in the Cricket club anyway so this keeps them more isolated.

Brunshaw road should be Burnley fans only

How does this keep them more isolated?
They will be mixing with fans on the Longside side, in a more confined area

[daveisaclaret]

Apologies if this is rude but isn't everything the OP tells us they've "been told" just something they've made up because they're bored?

[getbennyon]

How does this keep them more isolated?
They will be mixing with fans on the Longside side, in a more confined area

They'll build a temporary mental fence/gate etc like you see at a lot of away games.

Homes fans will have to walk the long way round.

[ClaretsPadiham]

Apologies if this is rude but isn't everything the OP tells us they've "been told" just something they've made up because they're bored?

Give me another example ?? You cant …