Summer transfer window

[GrahamBranchsPerm]

Gave us hassle when he came on at the Turf.

Unit. Finisher.

UTC.

[wilks_bfc]

45 league goals over the last 3 seasons in 100apps is really good goal scoring record.

25 years old, reaching his peak in next year or two.


16m honestly seems a decentish price

Is he only 25?
He’s one of those players that seems to have been around for ages

[123EasyasBFC]

Foster certainly didn't cost that much

Didn’t it get quoted as 15m on MTB series 1 when one of the directors questioned fosters like of usage to kompany

[taio]

Didn’t it get quoted as 15m on MTB series 1 when one of the directors questioned fosters like of usage to kompany

Not that I can recall but there's no way the fee was 15m

[Vegas Claret]

I thought the Foster fee was 10 million euros ?

[exilecanada]

I thought the Foster fee was 10 million euros ?

Whatever the fee was it was way too much

[NewClaret]

I thought the Foster fee was 10 million euros ?

I remember it being reported as £7m at the time but transfermarkt has it at €11m, £9.5m.

[NewClaret]

Whatever the fee was it was way too much

He’s 24 so I’d maybe see how things pan out.

Last summer people were on here 2 were saying that we’d need to take a loss on Trafford and this summer we’re discussing fees between £30m and £40m!!!

[Jakubclaret]

It's absolutely amazing the inconsistency disparity figures reported when we are buying that seem to be rock bottom but when selling seem to be sky high.

[taio]

It's absolutely amazing the inconsistency disparity figures reported when we are buying that seem to be rock bottom but when selling seem to be sky high.

Complicated these days by football clubs understandably withholding transfer fee details and using more complex deal structures. Best to rely on the general consensus rather than be swayed by outlier valuations.

[Jakubclaret]

Complicated these days by football clubs understandably withholding transfer fee details and using more complex deal structures. Best to rely on the general consensus rather than be swayed by outlier valuations.

I understand all that perfectly well but it's reasonable to meet in the middle low end & high end you can't just accept ultra low & ultra high. I think some posters just make things up going along to hide the fact in some situations we are getting bent over.

[bumba]

Wonder if Norwich would be open to a cash + Foster deal, we keep the cost down by a few million and also get Foster off the books. Win win.
Personally think Sargent is a good player and could flourish under Parker in our system.

[taio]

I understand all that perfectly well but it's reasonable to meet in the middle low end & high end you can't just accept ultra low & ultra high. I think some posters just make things up going along to hide the fact in some situations we are getting bent over.

Like I say, best to ignore outlier figures. Not sure which transfers you have in mind, though.

[bobinho]

Agree with that. I think most are tired now of waiting for Foster to realise the early potential he showed. I certainly am.

Sargent is a great shout.

[Jakubs Tash]

He’s 24 so I’d maybe see how things pan out.

Last summer people were on here 2 were saying that we’d need to take a loss on Trafford and this summer we’re discussing fees between £30m and £40m!!!

That’s not a very good comparison.

Foster has shown nothing in two and half years at either level (apart from the now legendary performance at Villa Park).

I’d be quite happy if we could move him on.

[taio]

Wonder if Norwich would be open to a cash + Foster deal, we keep the cost down by a few million and also get Foster off the books. Win win.
Personally think Sargent is a good player and could flourish under Parker in our system.

Norwich are now being reported as frontrunners to sign Mathias Kvistgaarden with Celtic, West Ham, Frankfurt, and other clubs said to be strongly interested previously.

[RVclaret]

That’s not a very good comparison.

Foster has shown nothing in two and half years at either level (apart from the now legendary performance at Villa Park).

I’d be quite happy if we could move him on.

Most goal contributions in the entire squad in the PL last time, despite only featuring in just over half the games.

[Jakubclaret]

Like I say, best to ignore outlier figures. Not sure which transfers you have in mind, though.

I certainly don't have time to go through the lengthy list. I've mentioned individual names repeatedly on a consistent basis. It's all old hat & old ground & wouldn't be productive again x multiple. I'm well assured evidentially that what I've stated is sane logically. Have a good evening.

[taio]

I certainly don't have time to go through the lengthy list. I've mentioned individual names repeatedly on a consistent basis. It's all old hat & old ground & wouldn't be productive again x multiple. I'm well assured evidentially that what I've stated is sane logically. Have a good evening.

No problem, I wasn't asking you to.

[123EasyasBFC]

For what it’s worth I wouldn’t even think about entertaining any offers for foster unless Amdouni is to leave

[warksclaret]

With Foster's injury record including his lengthy mental health issues, combined to his goals per game ratios in England, it will be very hard to sell him at anything like the price we paid. Having said that I would be happy for him to be very much one of our 25 man squad and see how he does in pre season and friendlies. I think he is better as a PL striker than a Championship one. After the first half dozen or so games in the PL year I was starting to see why we had bought him. He was giving very good defenders a hard time, then of course he was blighted with his issues and injuries and fading out in the second half of that season, and this season he has been so disappointing. But we definitely need a proper number 9 toowith a good goal ratio.

[Jakubs Tash]

Most goal contributions in the entire squad in the PL last time, despite only featuring in just over half the games.

In a season where we were nothing short of abysmal and rarely competitive in a game.

What are his stats at a lower level (as you like stats so much)?

He can go for me…..

[aggi]

Most goal contributions in the entire squad in the PL last time, despite only featuring in just over half the games.

One ahead of Dara O'Shea ...

[RVclaret]

One ahead of Dara O'Shea ...

Would have been two if not for that outrageous disallowed goal at Forest, which I’m still not over

[jlup1980]

Most goal contributions in the entire squad in the PL last time, despite only featuring in just over half the games.

9 goals in 72 games is surely enough to see he isn't good enough? He's been here long enough to prove to us that he has something to offer, but other than a brief purple patch at the start of the last PL campaign he's been useless. He isn't going to suddenly become a 10-20 goal a season man. I said 12 months ago he wouldn't get 10 goals in the Championship as he doesn't have a strikers instinct; he ended with 2 in 28 league appearances.

As a side note, this shows what an odd fan base we are at times. On one side we have some saying they don't believe Egan-Riley would be good enough for the PL, and that he's not a huge loss. This is after an unbelievable season of stand out performances. On the other side we have some who think that Lyle Foster is still the answer up front, and this is after an abject 2 and a half years. Go figure!

[mkmel]

Also more reports of Josh Sargent, but they insist on mentioning Leeds with every player we are linked with, so difficult to take serious.

What about his Norwich teammate Borja Sainz who I think was the top scorer in the Championship last season?

[Pearcey]

What about his Norwich teammate Borja Sainz who I think was the top scorer in the Championship last season?

They’re expecting him to leave. Was great for the first half of the season but drifted away due to being worked out by defences.

[Silkyskills1]

I think he is better as a PL striker than a Championship one.

His record as a goalscorer at the lower level is abysmal. Better teams, better players, quicker, bigger players at a higher level and you have a theory that he would benefit from this type of opposition as a goalscorer. Have I missed something over the many years I've been watching football?

[Newcastleclaret93]

His record as a goalscorer at the lower level is abysmal. Better teams, better players, quicker, bigger players at a higher level and you have a theory that he would benefit from this type of opposition as a goalscorer. Have I missed something over the many years I've been watching football?

There is something to this though.

Foster and Koleosho struggled in the championship because we are usually the team that dominates the game, thus the opposition in the championship have 10 men behind the ball most of the time.

I think we will see both of them have good seasons this year. Both in my opinion are at there best when we play on the counter.

As a side note I actually think Gokeres if he goes to Arsenal will struggle with Arsenal (for exactly the reason foster has for us in the championship). The space just won’t be there behind the defences.

[Goody1975]

I really like Sargent, he is an unselfish player who works incredibly hard for the team. I'm just not sure about £16 Million, if it was £10 Million then that would be perfect.

A player who is sold for £16 Million wants a wage that corresponds with that fee. It's certainly a position that needs strengthening though.

[taio]

There is something to this though.

Foster and Koleosho struggled in the championship because we are usually the team that dominates the game, thus the opposition in the championship have 10 men behind the ball most of the time.

I think we will see both of them have good seasons this year. Both in my opinion are at there best when we play on the counter.

As a side note I actually think Gokeres if he goes to Arsenal will struggle with Arsenal (for exactly the reason foster has for us in the championship). The space just won’t be there behind the defences.

I remember you thinking Gyokeres would struggle with us and there was no profit to be made from him.

[warksclaret]

I really like Sargent, he is an unselfish player who works incredibly hard for the team. I'm just not sure about £16 Million, if it was £10 Million then that would be perfect.

A player who is sold for £16 Million wants a wage that corresponds with that fee. It's certainly a position that needs strengthening though.

£16m supposedly for Sargent, yet Brownhill 18 goals could join someone on a free. Suddenly you see the worth of Josh

[colne-claret]

I really like Sargent, he is an unselfish player who works incredibly hard for the team. I'm just not sure about £16 Million, if it was £10 Million then that would be perfect.

A player who is sold for £16 Million wants a wage that corresponds with that fee. It's certainly a position that needs strengthening though.

I’d have expected us to have brought in an American player by now under ALK. Maybe this is the one. Can’t see us paying 16 mil though.

[blatherwickstattoos]

Sergent is absolutely ideal for us. I’ve been saying for ages now. He has a bit of everything about him. Him and Ashley Barnes are very close too. Hope he can persuade him to come (even if it means less game time for Bashley)

[aggi]

9 goals in 72 games is surely enough to see he isn't good enough? He's been here long enough to prove to us that he has something to offer, but other than a brief purple patch at the start of the last PL campaign he's been useless. He isn't going to suddenly become a 10-20 goal a season man. I said 12 months ago he wouldn't get 10 goals in the Championship as he doesn't have a strikers instinct; he ended with 2 in 28 league appearances.

As a side note, this shows what an odd fan base we are at times. On one side we have some saying they don't believe Egan-Riley would be good enough for the PL, and that he's not a huge loss. This is after an unbelievable season of stand out performances. On the other side we have some who think that Lyle Foster is still the answer up front, and this is after an abject 2 and a half years. Go figure!

I had a similar view at the start of last season
"Personally I don't think he has the movement or the instinctive ability to be a striker who will regularly get double figures in a decent league but we shall see."

At the same time others were claiming he would be the best striker in the championship. When that didn't pan out it seems to have become due to the championship and the style of football rather than anything to do with the player.

Maybe he's going to prove the doubters wrong next year but I struggle to think of players who weren't good enough in the championship but banged the goals in when in the premier league

[Tricky Trevor]

Sargent is a better finisher than anybody on the books. Whether he can do it in the PL I don’t know but I don’t know for any other strikers we have been linked with. PL is a different level to anything they’ve done.

[Iloveyoubrady]

God please not Sargeant. Every time we’ve played him over the past few years, I’ve been confident we’d get at least a draw because he looks like a clown and plays like a clown.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I remember you thinking Gyokeres would struggle with us and there was no profit to be made from him.

Time will tell whether he can step up to premier league level.

As it stands right now he has a worst record at championship level than Sargent (plenty on here don’t fancy him).

Sargent - 45 goals 106 apps
Gyokeres - 41 goals 127 apps

Funnily enough both the same age in there last championship season also (25). Which makes it an interesting comparison

[wilks_bfc]

Sargent is a better finisher than anybody on the books. Whether he can do it in the PL I don’t know but I don’t know for any other strikers we have been linked with. PL is a different level to anything they’ve done.

If by “done it” you mean score goals in the PL, then he’s do it four times, however I’m pretty sure that in that season Norwich was playing him in either a deeper or wide role

[taio]

Time will tell whether he can step up to premier league level.

As it stands right now he has a worst record at championship level than Sargent (plenty on here don’t fancy him).

Sargent - 45 goals 106 apps
Gyokeres - 41 goals 127 apps

Funnily enough both the same age in there last championship season also (25). Which makes it an interesting comparison

We don't need time to know that there was profit him given it looks like he's signing for Arsenal for £70m.

[Jakubclaret]

I remember you thinking Gyokeres would struggle with us and there was no profit to be made from him.

Some selective memory recollections are incredible it's a skill I haven't mastered yet.

[BigGaz]

It's a hell of a reach to suggest that players that were bit part at Championship level are suddenly going to go in and be better players in the toughest league in the world.

I am not sure what being in the Premier League is going to do for Koleosho as regards to his tendency to run down blind alleys, knowing when to release the ball or finding a consistent end product.

Not sure what being in the Premier League is going to do for Foster and his lack of clinical finishing.

We've LK till 2029 and Foster till 28. They've not done anything really to suggest they can be reliable contributors over a full season. If they can't output reasonable numbers or even be first pick at a side that ended up with 100 points at a lower level then I'm not sure the logic that them suddenly competing as PL talent works.

With the size of our squad they'd be amongst the first two I think of in terms of moving on. Loans for both of them or in Fosters case permanently if the offer was right.

[Newcastleclaret93]

We don't need time to know that there was profit him given it looks like he's signing for Arsenal for £70m.

We didn’t know there was profit though?

If he came to us and stank out the premier league that season do you reckon he would have been sold for 70m?

It’s not a guarantee that he would have made us a profit by any stretch

[taio]

We didn’t know there was profit though?

If he came to us and stank out the premier league that season do you reckon he would have been sold for 70m?

It’s not a guarantee that he would have made us a profit by any stretch

We didn't know, no, but plenty of people on here recognised his talent, and that he would likely go for a big fee, which is what's now playing put. I think he was out of our reach, but if he wasn't, I don't believe we'd have sold him for £70m, but I reckon we'd have sold him for a lot more than we paid.

[Newcastleclaret93]

We didn't know, no, but plenty of people on here recognised his talent, and that he would likely go for a big fee, which is what's now playing put. I think he was out of our reach, but if he wasn't, I don't believe we'd have sold him for £70m, but I reckon we'd have sold him for a lot more than we paid.

Like I said there’s absolutely no way of knowing.

He’s got very similar stats to Sargent (if you take away Gyokeres penalties then Sargent record is considerably better, Sargent 43 goals in 106 apps compared to Gyokeres 31 goals in 127 apps).

I have very little confidence in saying if we signed Sargent we are Guaranteed to make a profit

[CoolClaret]

There is something to this though.

Foster and Koleosho struggled in the championship because we are usually the team that dominates the game, thus the opposition in the championship have 10 men behind the ball most of the time.

I think we will see both of them have good seasons this year. Both in my opinion are at there best when we play on the counter.

As a side note I actually think Gokeres if he goes to Arsenal will struggle with Arsenal (for exactly the reason foster has for us in the championship). The space just won’t be there behind the defences.

I know what you're getting at, but worth noting that Gyökeres has been scoring like a goal a game playing for a giant of Portugal - they're hardly playing teams that come at them and press them high in the Primeira Liga

[Newcastleclaret93]

I know what you're getting at, but worth noting that Gyökeres has been scoring like a goal a game playing for a giant of Portugal - they're hardly playing teams that come at them and press them high in the Primeira Liga

He did but 19 of them goals were penalties

[taio]

Like I said there’s absolutely no way of knowing.

He’s got very similar stats to Sargent (if you take away Gyokeres penalties then Sargent record is considerably better, Sargent 43 goals in 106 apps compared to Gyokeres 31 goals in 127 apps).

I have very little confidence in saying if we signed Sargent we are Guaranteed to make a profit

There is a way of having a good idea. By watching a player. Like scouts do. But obviously there are no guarantees with any player.

Gyokeres scored most of those goals in his last two championship seasons, showing his direction of travel or trajectory.

[Newcastleclaret93]

There is a way of having a good idea. By watching a player. Like scouts do. But obviously there are no guarantees with any player.

Gyokeres scored most of those goals in his last two championship seasons, showing his direction of travel or trajectory.

He did but I mean his goal scoring record for a 25 year old was very average.

That season when everyone was raving about him, he scored 13 goals from open play (from 49 championship apps).

Doesn’t exactly scream out to me Guaranteed profit.

This season will be a big indicator. He can quickly drop from a 70m pound rated striker from the Portuguese league to be being loaned out to the championship.

Look at Darwin Nunez Liverpool would do well to get 30m for him now

[taio]

He did but I mean his goal scoring record for a 25 year old was very average.

That season when everyone was raving about him, he scored 13 goals from open play (from 49 championship apps).

Doesn’t exactly scream out to me Guaranteed profit.

This season will be a big indicator. He can quickly drop from a 70m pound rated striker from the Portuguese league to be being loaned out to the championship.

Look at Darwin Nunez Liverpool would do well to get 30m for him now

He was 24, scored 21 with 12 assists. That's a very good season. It's why Sporting paid c£20m. He's gone to Sporting and proven himself to the extent that Arsenal are about to pay £70m for him.

There is no guaranteed profit on any player. Of course the £70m valuation can drop, but that's not the figure you were referring to when you didn't want him here, and you thought there was no profit in him.