Summer transfer window

[Row x]

How are you coming to the conclusion that Muric was responsible for the higher rate of points Ipswich picked up whilst he was in the team? You say the maths doesn’t lie, but your logic certainly does.

As for Muric, I can’t for one minute see why anybody would want him back. He’s dog sh!t and won’t be seen near the Premier League again.

The one stat people are leaving out, is that when Ipswich dropped him, he had the most mistakes, leading directly to a goal, than any other player in the premier league. Taking into account the similar mistakes he made for us, why would anyone in their right mind want him anywhere near our team this season?

[bumba]

I was a fan of Muric and he was excellent behind the all conquering Championship side, especially his amazing long range passing . I thought he should have been well ahead of Trafford in the race to be number one in the PL and kept thinking we'd be in much better position if we'd only drop Trafford and pick him. Then we did and he looked poor, culminating in the calamitous goal against Brighton on the Turf. I still thought Ipswich were getting a very good keeper though. They weren't. Well not at PL level and he definitely cost them at times, although that wasn't why they went down. It's 99% certain Trafford will move on and we'll get decent cash in return, but we have to do better than Muric for a season when we're going to be playing seriously backs to the wall footy in pretty much every game.

He didn't look 'poor' at all, he made two massive costly errors but his shot stopping was brilliant in the games he played he made some massive saves which people are quick to forget because everyone wants to remember the errors.
We needed an upgrade for the premier league but James Trafford at that time wasn't an upgrade

[Andreshotboots]

Muric was excellent in a division where, on the whole we could recover from any errors he made.

The league has moved on massively since he was last with us, and so should we...

[Dark Cloud]

He didn't look 'poor' at all, he made two massive costly errors but his shot stopping was brilliant in the games he played he made some massive saves which people are quick to forget because everyone wants to remember the errors.
We needed an upgrade for the premier league but James Trafford at that time wasn't an upgrade

I accept your point, but essentially what I'm trying to say is that despite him being much my preferred choice during the Muric/Trafford season, I think we have to do better when we inevitably replace Trafford this summer because I don't feel now Muric is good enough, especially for a team under huge and constant pressure.

[AfloatinClaret]

Lads.
... you can’t do straight-line extrapolation on this board!
Dande will give you a 100 lines.

Presumably not straight ones?

[TheFamilyCat]

He didn't look 'poor' at all, he made two massive costly errors but his shot stopping was brilliant in the games he played he made some massive saves which people are quick to forget because everyone wants to remember the errors.
We needed an upgrade for the premier league but James Trafford at that time wasn't an upgrade

He made some regulation saves and a couple of very good ones.

[burnley007]

Muric doesn't seem like a Parker type of player to me

[agreenwood]

Just gone back 3 pages to see where the rumour that caused all the discussion about Muric came from.

Turns out he changed his social media picture.

Classic.

[Woodleyclaret]

Cooper at Sheffield United maybe a decent Traff replacement if we let Traff join Newcastle

[gandhisflipflop]

Just gone back 3 pages to see where the rumour that caused all the discussion about Muric came from.

Turns out he changed his social media picture.

Classic.

Tedious ain’t it!

[dandeclaret]

Lads.
Have you not learned you can’t do straight-line extrapolation on this board!
Dande will give you a 100 lines.

1 for each point the straight line extrapolators told us Parker couldn't get.....

[KRBFC]

He didn't look 'poor' at all, he made two massive costly errors but his shot stopping was brilliant in the games he played he made some massive saves which people are quick to forget because everyone wants to remember the errors.
We needed an upgrade for the premier league but James Trafford at that time wasn't an upgrade

We were 1-0 up away at Spurs in the league game, a must win game. Muric gave the ball away 21 times in the first half, yes 21 times. VK was furious with him.

He also let in a weak as **** goal at his near post.

[CharlieinNewMexico]

1 for each point the straight line extrapolators told us Parker couldn't get.....

Indeed

[Claretnick]

Bloody hell why do we persist in wishing ex players back especially when they made it very clear they wanted to leave the club, so we granted their wish. Muric is history.....

[RVclaret]

Cooper at Sheffield United maybe a decent Traff replacement if we let Traff join Newcastle

Agree. Good keeper. Very strong at commanding his area, which will be handy this season.

[CrosspoolClarets]

I cannot think of a more un-Parker like keeper than Muric.

Keep solid for over an hour then throw one in like happened against BHA? Everton too? Parker would hate that and so would his players. I recall Brownhill’s reaction when that BHA goal went in, it was unprintable if I recall correctly.

Yes, Cooper is a good option, though I’d prefer a bigger keeper.

[mybloodisclaret]

The real shocker for me was not Spurs away (I got sun burnt in that corner - a side issue I realise) not even the Brighton c()ck up, but the absolute howler at Goodison when everyone in the world could see 10 seconds into the future and knew that as soon as DCL was closing him down and he just didn't react that it was going to end up in the back of the net.

It was then and there I think we were doomed that season. Not mathematically but mentally. Saturday 6th April 2024.

Yes he made some great saves for us but he was extremely expensive at times.

Strengths -
Size, presence, good off long balls into the box, good shot stopper, superb distribution, good from crosses.

Weaknesses -
Completely unpredictable.

[warksclaret]

I doubt Muric will ever play in England again-most astute football fans know why. Not sure why we need to spend several full pages of posts discussing the merits of a return. One of the best bits of business done under the new owners to get £10m for him. Lets move on-and by the way Trafford is still with us and we have acquired a great understudy and No 2

[LeadBelly]

We were 1-0 up away at Spurs in the league game, a must win game. Muric gave the ball away 21 times in the first half, yes 21 times. VK was furious with him.

He also let in a weak as **** goal at his near post.

This is my abiding impression of him too. Almost looked like he was determined to break some record for giving the ball away.

[NewClaret]

The one stat people are leaving out, is that when Ipswich dropped him, he had the most mistakes, leading directly to a goal, than any other player in the premier league. Taking into account the similar mistakes he made for us, why would anyone in their right mind want him anywhere near our team this season?

This is a fair question.

On your point of mistakes, I’m not sure how these are calculated for stats. Often fans see a minor error by a keeper and pin the blame on him when actually several players have made bigger mistakes before them to even allow a player to get a shot off.

His errors for us however were entirely his own making, but I didn’t see any similar for Ipswich. For Ipswich, and I didn’t watch them often, I just saw them under constant bombardment because of how McKenna played. My point is that ultimately any keeper in the world is going to make errors under constant pressure. For this reason, I’d like to keep Trafford because he seems to thrive off pressure and is the better shot-stopper of the two (although Muric is very good, I’d say Trafford is excellent).

But I’d take Muric back because:

- I’d expect him to improve after two tough seasons for different reasons and learn from his mistakes.
- I think in a more defensive structure where he was instructed to play safe we’d see the best of him.
- His passing is ridiculous and given we’ll likely be playing a lot on the counter could be very useful.
- His shot stopping was very good and it’s often overlooked how many points he won us (and Ipswich).
- He commands his box well, or did at the end of his season with us. Only really watched highlights last year.
- He has a couple of seasons in the Premier League now, albeit less than a full season of games, but that to me is better than say a foreign unknown quantity.
- I’d expect he’ll be cheap relative to other potential targets, with a good resale potential if we could cut out his errors.
- He’s an excellent keeper to have if we go down again, where we’d play more possession based football with a higher line.

So lots going for him in my view. We’re not really linked with anyone so it’s hard to compare and maybe if we were I’d prefer them, but wouldn’t rule out Muric.

[randomclaret2]

This is a fair question.

On your point of mistakes, I’m not sure how these are calculated for stats. Often fans see a minor error by a keeper and pin the blame on him when actually several players have made bigger mistakes before them to even allow a player to get a shot off.

His errors for us however were entirely his own making, but I didn’t see any similar for Ipswich. For Ipswich, and I didn’t watch them often, I just saw them under constant bombardment because of how McKenna played. My point is that ultimately any keeper in the world is going to make errors under constant pressure. For this reason, I’d like to keep Trafford because he seems to thrive off pressure and is the better shot-stopper of the two (although Muric is very good, I’d say Trafford is excellent).

But I’d take Muric back because:

- I’d expect him to improve after two tough seasons for different reasons and learn from his mistakes.
- I think in a more defensive structure where he was instructed to play safe we’d see the best of him.
- His passing is ridiculous and given we’ll likely be playing a lot on the counter could be very useful.
- His shot stopping was very good and it’s often overlooked how many points he won us (and Ipswich).
- He commands his box well, or did at the end of his season with us. Only really watched highlights last year.
- He has a couple of seasons in the Premier League now, albeit less than a full season of games, but that to me is better than say a foreign unknown quantity.
- I’d expect he’ll be cheap relative to other potential targets, with a good resale potential if we could cut out his errors.
- He’s an excellent keeper to have if we go down again, where we’d play more possession based football with a higher line.

So lots going for him in my view. We’re not really linked with anyone so it’s hard to compare and maybe if we were I’d prefer them, but wouldn’t rule out Muric.

Are you his agent ?

[Stockbrokerbelt]

Cooper at Sheffield United maybe a decent Traff replacement if we let Traff join Newcastle

Cooper is to small for the prem league in my opinion, don’t see prem clubs knocking the door down to sign him. Everton have offered 5mil if the rumours are true?

[NewClaret]

Weaknesses -
Completely unpredictable.

I agree. His personality seems so laid back (maybe a trait you need in his position) that it lapses his concentration.

So on the one hand does he have the capacity to change his personality and be more focussed? Will the recent issues have made him question his own abilities and learn from them?

I’m not sure, but I’d back Parker’s man management to be the guy who could bring the best out of him. I also thought our new GK coach did a good job with Trafford last year.

[NL Claret]

Bizarre on here, the other week some posters were lapping up the Williams / O’Shea rumour and saying they didn’t want O’Shea as he couldn’t get out quick enough.

Muric didn’t even report back to training however some would welcome him back.

Talk about double standards.

[NewClaret]

Are you his agent ?

Haha, no. I’ve Kosovan mafia ties, thankfully.

[Tricky Trevor]

Mention of Sean Longstaff earlier. I have a problem with home town boys, playing out of their skin for their heroes, who move on and become average without the cause to fight for.
I know it’s not all of them but there are a lot out there.

[RVclaret]

Cooper is to small for the prem league in my opinion, don’t see prem clubs knocking the door down to sign him. Everton have offered 5mil if the rumours are true?

Cooper dominated his box better than any keeper I saw last year in the Champ. Stronger than Trafford at high claims. Also over performed from a shot stopping perspective. Yes Everton offered 5 + extras, but Sheff Utd want a fair bit more.

[Bow]

On the plus side, think of the laughs Muric will provide. A bit of levity might be nice during what is going to be a tough season.

[gandhisflipflop]

On the plus side, think of the laughs Muric will provide. A bit of levity might be nice during what is going to be a tough season.

I don’t want a clown in goal to give me laughs. I want a goalkeeper who can save shots and command his box.

[bumba]

We were 1-0 up away at Spurs in the league game, a must win game. Muric gave the ball away 21 times in the first half, yes 21 times. VK was furious with him.

He also let in a weak as **** goal at his near post.

I'm not defending him I've said he made two costly errors which everyone remembers but his shot stopping when he came back in to the team was brilliant.
Name me one player that season that didn't have a bad game in fact name me a player that didn't have at least five bad games!
I've said in what I wrote we needed an upgrade, Trafford wasn't the man though. Neither keeper were good enough that season but of the two Muric was better I wouldn't have him back though and this season coming I'd rather we cashed in on Trafford and replaced him with someone with more experience as I'm still not 100% convinced he's what we need this year despite his improvements last season.

[bumba]

He made some regulation saves and a couple of very good ones.

Can't remember the team it was against at home when I think O'Shea sold it short he pulled off a one on one save that was world class

[bumba]

I accept your point, but essentially what I'm trying to say is that despite him being much my preferred choice during the Muric/Trafford season, I think we have to do better when we inevitably replace Trafford this summer because I don't feel now Muric is good enough, especially for a team under huge and constant pressure.

I agree I wouldn't want him back he isn't what we need. We should have sold Trafford earlier and brought Kelleher in for the price he went for that would have been excellent business

[123EasyasBFC]

I wanted muric to start in the prem and wanted him to stay last summer but there’s absolutely no way I would want Muric back as our starting keeper this coming season. The pressure he would be under would be massive, any slight dodgy kick or bad touch would be over analysed.

If Trafford is to leave my choice would be keepers with prem experience in this order:

Ramsdale
Ortega
Pope
Travers
Johnstone
Gunn

[Big Vinny K]

Unbelievable that some want Muric back here.
He made 2 absolute howlers when he returned for us in PL and was dreadful for Ipswich last season.

Ipswich’s form was decent at the start of the season and they were in a lot of games until Muric made his howlers - he cost them loads of points.

He was eventually dropped but just like a lot of promoted teams the lack of squad depth hits the teams much harder in the second half of the season.

The posts on this thread around points with Muric and points without him maybe factual but just because they are facts that does not mean they are the reason behind an outcome. Ipswich like a lot of promoted teams struggled as the season went on. Even though they were conceding a lot more goals and losing games far easier after Christmas there were far fewer howlers (if any) from Palmer and others than Muric.

Would be a shocking signing for us - hoping it won’t happen as SP seems far too pragmatic to introduce that kind of risk into his defence

[aggi]

You would not be alone, I would have him back too. These are Ipswich stats with and without Muric, despite how much the fans attack him:

* With Muric - 18 appearances
* 12 points
* 6 draws
* 33 conceeded
* 3 wins
* Without Muric 20 games
* 10 points
* 4 draws
* 49 conceeded
* 2 wins

So they were far worse without than with. Also they faced a lot of big names and got draws from them during his time.

[Taffy on the wing]

Cooper at Sheffield United maybe a decent Traff replacement if we let Traff join Newcastle

Apparently he too is prone to mistakes!

[gandhisflipflop]

I wanted muric to start in the prem and wanted him to stay last summer but there’s absolutely no way I would want Muric back as our starting keeper this coming season. The pressure he would be under would be massive, any slight dodgy kick or bad touch would be over analysed.

If Trafford is to leave my choice would be keepers with prem experience in this order:

Ramsdale
Ortega
Pope
Travers
Johnstone
Gunn

Please tell me you haven’t just suggested Angus Gunn? He is ******* hopeless.

[wilks_bfc]

Please tell me you haven’t just suggested Angus Gunn? He is ******* hopeless.

Tbf he did say he is his least preferred preference

[Grimsdale]

Andréas Hountondji has joined Bundesliga side St. Pauli on loan.

[dandeclaret]

Hountondji has joined St Pauli on loan for the season....

[Guller Bull]

Etienne Youte

https://sportwitness.co.uk/celtic-and-b ... set-price/

[Firthy]

Tedious ain’t it!

It's not that good

[Steddyman]

Andréas Hountondji has joined Bundesliga side St. Pauli on loan.

Striker incoming?

[fidelcastro]

Striker incoming?

There surely must be. Hountondji is going to take some replacing though!

[martin_p]

Etienne Youte

https://sportwitness.co.uk/celtic-and-b ... set-price/

Pretty sure ‘journalists’ are tossing a coin to decide whether they put us or Leeds down as interested in foreign players wanting to play in the prem (or both if they don’t have a coin handy).

[LeadBelly]

I often visit this site for a laugh when I see dubious correlation= causation connections
https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

[clarets1978]

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Name me one player that season that didn't have a bad game in fact name me a player that didn't have at least five bad games!

I dont think Maxime Esteve had 5

[Hedontplayforyou]

One of the names from my list of potential signings to look at Gela Doue is under offer from AC Milan according to Romano.

[Commy]

One of the names from my list of potential signings to look at Gela Doue is under offer from AC Milan according to Romano.

Sunderland rumoured to be after him as well.

[Commy]

Sunderland are going to have a completely new team if they sign everyone they are supposedly after.