Summer transfer window

[superdimitri]

I've thought ever since he joined that the best role for Koleosho would be as wing back with 3 at the back. He has all the attributes that the best in that role have in terms of pace, stamina and work rate. He'd be easily exploitable defensively but that would improve as he got more experience and would be balanced off by the extra centre half behind him.

His reading of the game is terrible and his decision making is worse. It's very different being a winger tracking back chasing the ball than it is being an actual defender.
Even in a very attacking team he would struggle. For us that would be disastrous!

[Ampth7]

Brighton rumoured to be buying Petrovic from Chelsea, Chelsea want 25 mill. Puts a bit more perspective to it.
IF Trafford is only worth 25 mill to Newcastle they must have loads more options out there they could pursue.
IF he's the only one good enough for them, then he has to be worth a lot more. They can't have it both ways.

I agree, however, deals with Chelsea are like playing Monopoly with all sorts of random numbers involved for incoming/outgoing players! They are akin to the Donald Trump of football in my eyes.

[Commy]

Newcastle are getting annoying. They want ridiculous money for their players and want clubs to sell to them cheap.

[123EasyasBFC]

Calllum Wilson still on pundit duty for club World Cup in America, so I don’t think the rumour of him having a medical are true

[Longsider]

I would have expected Leeds to have bet the ranch and pulled in loads of big signings for big money.

[IanMcL]

What is the current record? Circa 30m for Pickford to Everton a good few years ago? I'd bloody hope so!

I think Ramsdale more recently, however, agree totally.

[Commy]

Pickford was 2017. He had played 31 Premier League games and just over 100 Championship. He was called up to the England squad in that year. Not much difference between Trafford and him at this stage of their careers so how can the cost be the same when prices have gone stupid.

[burnley007]

Pickford was 2017. He had played 31 Premier League games and just over 100 Championship. He was called up to the England squad in that year. Not much difference between Trafford and him at this stage of their careers so how can the cost be the same when prices have gone stupid.

100% exactly

[Goliath]

His reading of the game is terrible and his decision making is worse. It's very different being a winger tracking back chasing the ball than it is being an actual defender.
Even in a very attacking team he would struggle. For us that would be disastrous!

I think you can get away with that more as a wing back. He's not good enough from an attacking sense to be a highly productive winger and not good enough defensively to be a full back.
In particular I'm thinking of Victor Moses and Adama Traore who had similar traits.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Pickford was 2017. He had played 31 Premier League games and just over 100 Championship. He was called up to the England squad in that year. Not much difference between Trafford and him at this stage of their careers so how can the cost be the same when prices have gone stupid.

It’s been covered on numerous threads

Prices haven’t gone stupid for keepers. Apart from one or two players the average price for keepers has actually stayed the same or you argue actually gone down.

[summitclaret]

If we were looking for 1 of our wingers to be a right-sided wing back surely it would be Anthony.

[claretburns]

If we were looking for 1 of our wingers to be a right-sided wing back surely it would be Anthony.

Anthony was so much better on the left in the 2nd half of the season after Edwards signed and built up a great partnership with Pires.

[summitclaret]

Anthony was so much better on the left in the 2nd half of the season after Edwards signed and built up a great partnership with Pires.

Agreed, but we have now got a ready made left wing back and Walker could play on the right in a back 3.

[Steddyman]

Calllum Wilson still on pundit duty for club World Cup in America, so I don’t think the rumour of him having a medical are true

Unless our owners had some contacts in America where the medical could be done? ...

[Casper2]

Newcastle are getting annoying. They want ridiculous money for their players and want clubs to sell to them cheap.

Elanga at 52million isn’t cheap.

[NewClaret]

Calllum Wilson still on pundit duty for club World Cup in America, so I don’t think the rumour of him having a medical are true

There’s rumours of Wilson having a medical?

[123EasyasBFC]

There’s rumours of Wilson having a medical?

Blatherwicktattoos said it was in a WhatsApp group but they didn’t say it was reliable tbf

[NewClaret]

Blatherwicktattoos said it was in a WhatsApp group but they didn’t say it was reliable tbf

Ah okay, must’ve missed that. Thanks.

[lakesider]

His reading of the game is terrible and his decision making is worse. It's very different being a winger tracking back chasing the ball than it is being an actual defender.
Even in a very attacking team he would struggle. For us that would be disastrous!

Agree. I like the lad but until his final ball improves he should be nowhere near the first team this year.

[lakesider]

Newcastle are getting annoying. They want ridiculous money for their players and want clubs to sell to them cheap.

Since they lost the services of the lass ( who came from one of the big four accounting practices) their negotiation tactics are shite. No one wins. Give us 30 big ones for Traff and Longstaff then there's a deal to be had.

[claretburns]

Agreed, but we have now got a ready made left wing back and Walker could play on the right in a back 3.

True, I agree Pires's minutes this season will be limited as Hartman will play there and I agree we have a team to form a back 3 with wing backs with Walker as DCR and a winger style player at RWB to allow them too push forward and Walker can cover but in that formation and with Hartman as the nailed on LWB we'll have Roberts, Sonne, Anthony, Edwards, Benson, Koleosho and Tchaouna vying for that position. Granted players like a Sonne and Benson will probably be sold/loaned out but it leaves a group of wingers left over vying for 1 position.

[123EasyasBFC]

True, I agree Pires's minutes this season will be limited as Hartman will play there and I agree we have a team to form a back 3 with wing backs with Walker as DCR and a winger style player at RWB to allow them too push forward and Walker can cover but in that formation and with Hartman as the nailed on LWB we'll have Roberts, Sonne, Anthony, Edwards, Benson, Koleosho and Tchaouna vying for that position. Granted players like a Sonne and Benson will probably be sold/loaned out but it leaves a group of wingers left over vying for 1 position.

With Hartman and Humphreys, I wouldn’t put it past Pires being a player Parker has said if an offer comes in he can leave

[CrosspoolClarets]

Second half of the season goals scored:
Burnley - 39
Leeds - 52

But we were better defensively. Goals conceded in second half of the season:
Burnley - 7
Leeds - 15

Gotta start that analysis from Feb 21st when Edwards started his first game.

Since then we only failed to grab a brace on three occasions.

I suspect the comparison would then look different.

(not sure the relevance to transfers but thought it worth replying)

[claretburns]

With Hartman and Humphreys, I wouldn’t put it past Pires being a player Parker has said if an offer comes in he can leave

Yes, with his injury forcing him to miss the end of the season I forget we still have Humphreys and agree he will provide decent cover for Hartman.

We could see a back 5 of:

LWB: Hartman
DCL: Humphreys
DC: Esteve
DCR: Tuanzebe
RWB Walker

Seems solid to me with options to put Walker at DCR and a winger or Roberts at RWB.

[Steddyman]

Has Lucas Stassin been mentioned before?

https://x.com/S_F_G2020/status/1942905698146509268

[Hedontplayforyou]

Link appeared on “X” today but nothing else . He’s definitely got potential at that age. Looks handy.

[CoolClaret]

With Hartman and Humphreys, I wouldn’t put it past Pires being a player Parker has said if an offer comes in he can leave

Disagree,

If 3 at the back is the system (in some games), then all of a sudden we only have one wing-back if he were to leave, not to mention, Pires came on leaps and bounds to end the season. One of our better players for the last 8-10 games.

[123EasyasBFC]

Disagree,

If 3 at the back is the system (in some games), then all of a sudden we only have one wing-back if he were to leave, not to mention, Pires came on leaps and bounds to end the season. One of our better players for the last 8-10 games.

There’s no guarantee we are going to be looking to play a back 3, I know Humphreys is a cb playing left back but Parker likes him at left back so just can’t see us going with 3 full backs on each side in the squad when it’s as bloated as it is and just thought Pires could be one of the players who make have to make way, likewise if we sign a striker and keep Amdouni, I could see foster leaving

[CoolClaret]

There’s no guarantee we are going to be looking to play a back 3, I know Humphreys is a cb playing left back but Parker likes him at left back so just can’t see us going with 3 full backs on each side in the squad when it’s as bloated as it is and just thought Pires could be one of the players who make have to make way, likewise if we sign a striker and keep Amdouni, I could see foster leaving

No guarantee, that's why I said 'if', and also, the defence signings so far, along with playing 3 atb against Southampton (as well as Parker playing that with Fulham in the PL), suggest it's a strong possibility.

Also, we have many players we need off the books before we even think about Pires - Obafemi, Delcroix etc

[123EasyasBFC]

No guarantee, that's why I said 'if', and also, the defence signings so far, along with playing 3 atb against Southampton (as well as Parker playing that with Fulham in the PL), suggest it's a strong possibility.

Also, we have many players we need off the books before we even think about Pires - Obafemi, Delcroix etc

Not as simple to get someone like Obafemi off the books who’s done nothing in 2 loan spells, we need to let leave on loan or perm - Hladky, Sonne, sambo, Delcroix, Worrall or Ekdal, Dodgson, churlinov, Benson, obafemi, not gonna be queues of clubs trying to sign them

[ISpeds00]

Unless our owners had some contacts in America where the medical could be done? ...

He's in a UK studio for DAZN

[Tricky Trevor]

I agree, however, deals with Chelsea are like playing Monopoly with all sorts of random numbers involved for incoming/outgoing players! They are akin to the Donald Trump of football in my eyes.

Any deal between Chelsea & BHA needs massive scrutiny. Chelsea have spunked a fortune on Brighton players. Good players but not worth anywhere near alleged transfer fees.

[Tricky Trevor]

Has Lucas Stassin been mentioned before?

https://x.com/S_F_G2020/status/1942905698146509268

Yes but only as a UTC recommendation.

[123EasyasBFC]

Stassin looks like a player with potential but for the price being quoted on that tweet, I would rather we signed Sargent

[Steddyman]

Sargent close according to this (random) poster: https://x.com/BoomerRichey/status/1943058466974896497

[CoolClaret]

Not as simple to get someone like Obafemi off the books who’s done nothing in 2 loan spells, we need to let leave on loan or perm - Hladky, Sonne, sambo, Delcroix, Worrall or Ekdal, Dodgson, churlinov, Benson, obafemi, not gonna be queues of clubs trying to sign them

Yep, hence the 'etc' in my post, there's quite a number of them that we need out of the door.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Not as simple to get someone like Obafemi off the books who’s done nothing in 2 loan spells, we need to let leave on loan or perm - Hladky, Sonne, sambo, Delcroix, Worrall or Ekdal, Dodgson, churlinov, Benson, obafemi, not gonna be queues of clubs trying to sign them

Think Sonne deserves a pre season and a settling in period. No idea on his level off the very few minutes he’s had.

Ideally need permanent moves but I can’t see it myself , maybe for Dodgson, Ekdal and Churlinov . Benson perhaps but the rest on loan.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Sargent close according to this (random) poster: https://x.com/BoomerRichey/status/1943058466974896497

If this proves to be genuine then it’d be very “meh” for me, but I’d love to be proven wrong.

Think we’d be way short up top if we only sign him.

[Steddyman]

I think he is a lot better than what we have already up front, but we probably need two.

[123EasyasBFC]

Think Sonne deserves a pre season and a settling in period. No idea on his level off the very few minutes he’s had.

Ideally need permanent moves but I can’t see it myself , maybe for Dodgson, Ekdal and Churlinov . Benson perhaps but the rest on loan.

I understand him needing to settle but when you have Roberts, Walker and Tuanzebe all in the same or similar position, he’s just not going to play

[NewClaret]

If this proves to be genuine then it’d be very “meh” for me, but I’d love to be proven wrong.

Think we’d be way short up top if we only sign him.

Hmmm really hope this is not true. Hope this is just to jig Leeds along a bit.

[123EasyasBFC]

[*]

If this proves to be genuine then it’d be very “meh” for me, but I’d love to be proven wrong.

Think we’d be way short up top if we only sign him.

The issue with giving Barnes a 12 months deal is from a 25 man squad point of view, Sargent can be the only striker signing unless one of foster or Amdouni leaves

[Hedontplayforyou]

I can’t see Andouni staying personally. Foster can’t be relied upon either so it’s a tough one.

Unless we sign a younger striker who doesn’t need registering as the second . Like Stassin .

[123EasyasBFC]

I can’t see Andouni staying personally. Foster can’t be relied upon either so it’s a tough one.

Unless we sign a younger striker who doesn’t need registering as the second . Like Stassin .

Yes potentially could do that.

I think Sargent would be excellent though, can’t understand the negative comments on him

[Hedontplayforyou]

I’ve just not been a fan when I’ve watched him. Perhaps he’s matured in recent seasons.
Regardless of any of this we may well just pull a few more from the blue signings before now and deadline day. After all who’d have thought we’d have Walker lining up for us this year.

[Conroy92]

I can’t see Andouni staying personally. Foster can’t be relied upon either so it’s a tough one.

Unless we sign a younger striker who doesn’t need registering as the second . Like Stassin .

In terms of that Stassin would be perfect

[jedi_master]

I’d take Sargent all day long. He’s done the business three years running in a pretty average Norwich side, he’s had a bit of a taste of the Premier League before when only 20/21, scored a few in the Bundesliga and a regular for the US, still only 25, a proper Number 9 who has a bit of everything to his game. Only negative being he’s had a few injuries, but nothing overly serious.

[Commy]

People seem to forget that he was only about 21 when he played in the Premier League and came to a new country. He has come on a lot since then. If he had stayed fit he would have probably been miles ahead with goals scored last season.

[Commy]

Newcastle have rejected a third offer from Leeds for Longstaff. I wonder if they are trying to add him to the Trafford deal.

[Conroy92]

We should be aiming for (and included a few rumoured targets to see what it would look like)

GK-
Traff or New
Weiss
Green/Hladacky or new

RB-
Walker
Roberts
(Tuanzabe cover)

CB-
Esteve
Tuanzabe
Humphreys
Worral
New or Ekdal
(Beyer loaned out)

LB-
Hartman
Pires
(Humphreys)

Beyer loaned out. Remaining defenders all to go

CM-
New (Cajuste?)
New (Diouf?)
Hannibal
Cullen
Laurent
(Ramsey loaned out)

RM-
Edwards
Loum T
Tresor or New

LM-
Anthony
Koleosho
Benson or New

Ramsey loaned out remaining midfielders to go.

ST-
New (Sargent?)
New(Stassin?)
Flemming
Foster or Amdouni
Barnes

Remaining strikers including whichever one of Amdouni or foster you chose to go.

That's what I think we should be aiming for- trimming it right down and bringing quality in key areas. It's 28 players so you would need a couple of under 21's (not sure if anyone for us in that list qualifies) but if Stassin came in up top that's two other spots we would need players under the age of 21 in at a maximum. Moving Green and Hladacky on could be good business if we could get an up and coming 19/20 year old keeper as a third team choice so relatively cheap in. Then if we need the remaining spot I'd look at moving Benson and Tresor on with maybe some young prospects coming in out wide.
Seems a lot of business still to conduct but that's a bit of a an ideal window really and I would be pleased if we were close to that. But we should be aiming as high as possible. I have absolutely no idea on budget but judging off so far I've gone for it a bit too .