Summer transfer window

[Mattster]

Johnstone would be a good short term Trafford replacement on the assumption that the price is reasonable and we've done our homework on Weiß and have the long term locked in. Can't say I know anything about Weiß so no idea if that's the case.

Not sure Diego Carlos is what we need in a further CB addition, would want someone more dominant. Charlie Cresswell would be my preferred one there. If it's a loan then I suppose it's lower risk but seems unnecessary to add another CB if they're not really improving us.

Sargent is basically a better, more natural 9, version of Flemming (when Flemming is playing as a striker) so would make a lot of sense for slotting right in. Wouldn't want to spend £20m on him though.

[jojomk1]

Just missed out on Andy Carroll
3 year deal at Dagenham and Redbridge
What are our recruitment team doing ??

[Pearcey]

Makes me laugh when people say Sargent isn’t worth £20m when he was the best number 9 in the league last year. The same people want £40m for Trafford and £50m for Esteve.

[Mattster]

Makes me laugh when people say Sargent isn’t worth £20m when he was the best number 9 in the league last year. The same people want £40m for Trafford and £50m for Esteve.

Lots of reasons for this, primary being we're a PL club now. If we'd not been promoted you'd be looking at £25-30m for Trafford/Esteve. Other factors too, Esteve is on a longer contract than Sargent. Both Trafford and Esteve are younger than Sargent. Neither has Sargent's injury history. Trafford will count as homegrown for any PL side playing in European Competition etc.

[GetIntoEm]

These posts don't half keep me interested in football through the off season.

Panic button
Only buying wingers
Arm chair scouts
Arm chair Chief execs

It's great to see

Same ones will be slagging our players off and wanting a new manager in a few weeks time. No idea what pleasure they get out of life.

Keep it up tho x

[Casper2]

These posts don't half keep me interested in football through the off season.

Panic button
Only buying wingers
Arm chair scouts
Arm chair Chief execs

It's great to see

Same ones will be slagging our players off and wanting a new manager in a few weeks time. No idea what pleasure they get out of life.

Keep it up tho x

You do realise that you moaning about it isn’t going to make the slightest difference .

[burnley007]

Incoming...

[Chester Perry]

Incoming...

32 year old coming back from a medial ligament knee injury - this could get a bit tetchy

[ksrclaret]

We’re taking a hell of a risk with injury records so far.

[Woodleyclaret]

We now have vast experience in dealing with players with injuries going way back to Remco and Bersarts time here

[burnley007]

We’re taking a hell of a risk with injury records so far.

Could be a canny way of getting good players at very cheap prices.

Could also be dangerous...

[Chester Perry]

We now have vast experience in dealing with players with injuries going way back to Remco and Bersarts time here

I am pretty sure that the medical (including physio, rehabilitation and psychotherapy staff) have changed numerous times in that time frame - what has been retained as institutional knowledge is a huge unknown

[Row x]

I am pretty sure that the medical (including physio, rehabilitation and psychotherapy staff) have changed numerous times in that time frame - what has been retained as institutional knowledge is a huge unknown

Big parts of medicals are not carried out by club staff.

[jrgbfc]

Is this the same Diego Carlos that was at Villa?

[Quicknick]

Is this the same Diego Carlos that was at Villa?

Yes.

[northeastclaret]

Difficult to believe we are in for him with the defenders we already have , must be Turkish press nonsense.

[Conroy92]

I wonder if CT has any more articles at the ready?

[billyhamilton82]

Difficult to believe we are in for him with the defenders we already have , must be Turkish press nonsense.

Would seem that Worrall and Ekdal are off.

Beyer more than likely loaned out to get match fitness.

The remit is PL experience and physicality, he can also ping a pass better than Egan Riley.

Lets be honest with ourselves, if he hadn't had the injury he wouldn't be signing for Burnley, Villa signed him for 26 million euros.

We just need to stay in the division, these are just the types of player that will do just that.....the caveat to that is that he obviously must stay fit.

Its a risk worth taking IMO.

[burnley007]

I wonder if CT has any more articles at the ready?

I doubt it, but you never know.

[Chester Perry]

Big parts of medicals are not carried out by club staff.

I am talking about players already in the building re injury management and certainly not being critical of the club

[CrosspoolClarets]

Diego Carlos would be an interesting signing. A beast who struggled at Villa and his Sevilla form seems in the past. But at his best he is fairly quick, tough, good header, leader. Would be perfect alongside Esteve in that sense.

Our transfer strategy reminds me of the quote from Game Of Thrones “cripples, ba***** and broken things”. We seem to be going for players of a reputation we could never normally get but whose past means we can get them. Whether it works we will see, logic suggests some will work out and others will not. Certainly it is a risk but young and expensive is too for different reasons.

[123EasyasBFC]

Diego Carlos owes us anyway after getting away with that handball away to Villa

[GetIntoEm]

You do realise that you moaning about it isn’t going to make the slightest difference .

If you think that's moaning, I suggest retaking a English O level

[ksrclaret]

If you think that's moaning, I suggest retaking a English O level

You first pal with that grammar.

[Hanoverusaclaret]

Would take Johnstone in a heartbeat. Very solid goalkeeper. Would be my second choice of GK signing behind Pope tbh.
If that is the price for Sargent and we want him I would imagine we will probably pay it. Decent player.

Nixon says Norwich want £20m for Sargent.

Also links us with Sam Johnstone in case Trafford goes.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/35820890 ... exclusive/

[AlargeClaret]

It's an odd one for me given who we have wide:
Tchaouma
Anthony
Koleosho
Edwards
Tresor
Benson

Even if Benson and Tresor leave, we have two for each wide spot. But at the price he's decent cover, amd was definitely one of our better attacking players for a spell under kompany. I just can't see him getting much game time.

Indeed we seem almost “ Vinny like “ with wingers . Though I’d imagine the 2 of the likes of Tres/Benson/Kole will move on .

[billyhamilton82]

Can see Tresor playing as a number 10 especially if Amdouni is injured.

Benson will be sold which means 4 wingers which is what we require and Tresor can step in if required.

Tresor's stats as a number 10 are virtually the same as his left wing stats : Played 71 - Goals 15 - Assists 22

[Rileybobs]

Can see Tresor playing as a number 10 especially if Amdouni is injured.

Benson will be sold which means 4 wingers which is what we require and Tresor can step in if required.

Tresor's stats as a number 10 are virtually the same as his left wing stats : Played 71 - Goals 15 - Assists 22

You have noticed that our number 10 under Parker has generally been responsible for leading the press and is probably the most physically demanding role in the side?

[billyhamilton82]

You have noticed that our number 10 under Parker has generally been responsible for leading the press and is probably the most physically demanding role in the side?

Yes but you also need to create chances, we won't be able to sit in and soak up the pressure, Amdouni isn't exactly known for his workrate.

That being said, he won't be able to saunter around, he wlll have to earn his place.

The quality is there, a bit (more) patience is probably required from all parties.

[Steddyman]

I put this on the wrong thread by mistake (non-discussion), belongs here.

Could this free up Tella for a move to us?

https://x.com/sachatavolieri/status/194 ... 6QKwfgixkA

[agreenwood]

Massengo to Augsburg for €3m according to Tavoliera

[billyhamilton82]

To receive circa £3 million for Massengo and Costelloe is more than I would personally have expected and again very good business IMO.

Especially bearing in mind we have brought in 4 PL quality players (Hartman included) for circa £12 million.

It all helps.

[123EasyasBFC]

Burnley way on X saying nothing in Diego Carlos

[NewClaret]

I am pretty sure that the medical (including physio, rehabilitation and psychotherapy staff) have changed numerous times in that time frame - what has been retained as institutional knowledge is a huge unknown

Medicals are external, at least in the large part for obvious reasons, given the equipment and expertise needed. Not to mention the independent, external evaluation.

[NewClaret]

To receive circa £3 million for Massengo and Costelloe is more than I would personally have expected and again very good business IMO.

Especially bearing in mind we have brought in 4 PL quality players (Hartman included) for circa £12 million.

It all helps.

Agree, this was what I’d heard we’d got and very good to have it confirmed.

Brilliant business and what I expect the club will be looking to do with other players and part of the reason why we carry a large squad.

[Goliath]

Agree, this was what I’d heard we’d got and very good to have it confirmed.

Brilliant business and what I expect the club will be looking to do with other players and part of the reason why we carry a large squad.

Is that 3 million each?

[burnley007]

Agree, this was what I’d heard we’d got and very good to have it confirmed.

Brilliant business and what I expect the club will be looking to do with other players and part of the reason why we carry a large squad.

It seems to work for Chelski

[morninbob]

Is that 3 million each?

2.5 and 500k

[billyhamilton82]

Both deals also have add ons and bonuses.

Our transfer department is light years ahead of what we used to have back in the day, and even more recently.

[NewClaret]

Is that 3 million each?

No, €3m for Massengo and £300k for Costelloe, rising to £500k with add-ons apparently, so combined around £3m.

I’d expect both will have sell-ons so maybe not the end of the fees.

[NewClaret]

It seems to work for Chelski

You can imagine a scenario where this year we sell 4-6 fringe players and make £10-£15m profit. That will massively help with PSR and given we’ll always earn a lot less than the big clubs, help narrow the gap because we certainly won’t be drawing that income from other sources like commercial.

I think if we can do 2-3 seasons of doing decent numbers from fringe player sales, fans will become much more comfortable with the size of our squad.

[aggi]

Can see Tresor playing as a number 10 especially if Amdouni is injured.

Benson will be sold which means 4 wingers which is what we require and Tresor can step in if required.

Tresor's stats as a number 10 are virtually the same as his left wing stats : Played 71 - Goals 15 - Assists 22

As our squad stands I'd guess Hannibal would be playing that role.

[gandhisflipflop]

You can imagine a scenario where this year we sell 4-6 fringe players and make £10-£15m profit. That will massively help with PSR and given we’ll always earn a lot less than the big clubs, help narrow the gap because we certainly won’t be drawing that income from other sources like commercial.

I think if we can do 2-3 seasons of doing decent numbers from fringe player sales, fans will become much more comfortable with the size of our squad.

Benson
Churlinov
Obefemi?
Ekdal
Sonne
Sambo
Delcroix
Hladky

You’d imagine we could get around that figure for all those

[Goliath]

We were probably banking on 10 mill plus for Amdouni. That will be a blow.

[randomclaret2]

Benson
Churlinov
Obefemi?
Ekdal
Sonne
Sambo
Delcroix
Hladky

You’d imagine we could get around that figure for all those

How much did they cost to sign ?

[gandhisflipflop]

How much did they cost to sign ?

No idea but it can’t be more than 10m

[Djs254]

We were probably banking on 10 mill plus for Amdouni. That will be a blow.

If the injury reports are true he may not be going anywhere.

[randomclaret2]

No idea but it can’t be more than 10m

Just had a quick tot up on TransferMarkt, their figures come to €20.3m , or £17.5m

[claretspice]

Medicals are external, at least in the large part for obvious reasons, given the equipment and expertise needed. Not to mention the independent, external evaluation.

And the availability of indemnity insurance in the event of a mistake being made. I'd be astonished if any club did medicals in house these days.

[Vegas Claret]

Just had a quick tot up on TransferMarkt, their figures come to €20.3m , or £17.5m

I know it's all we really have but given the "undisclosed" nature of most transfers I wouldn't trust any valuations on TransferMarkt to be completely accurate tbh