Summer transfer window

[Row x]

10m offer for lad from Watford turned down apparently

[RVclaret]

Leeds closing in on Stach and Longstaff, two good signings in central midfield.
Sunderland chasing Xhaka, another good central midfield signing.

We desperately need one or two central midfielders to compete at this level.

Yep, I mentioned Stach for us a few weeks back. Longstaff is a solid signing too.

Sunderland have already spent £67m on their midfield, Xhaka would be a fairly exceptional signing on top of that.

Our midfield is so far off as it stands.

[ollieclarets8]

Our midfield clearly needs strengthening, but still plenty of time.

[Guller Bull]

Imagine in Sunderland now!
"Xhaka!"
"Xhaka?"
"Xhaka!!!"
you got to feel for them!

[ecc]

Hi Vegas,

There's no one reliable source unless one of the clubs involved disclose the fee.

I find TM to be pretty reliable for actual transfers. But on the other hand their raison d'être i.e. current valuations of players (which I think are used by people playing FIFA) are often unreal.

An example: they rate Maxime Estève at €20m. Not even Levy would offer that today.

However, they say we paid €12m for him which I believe was roughly the case.

Journos presumably get their info from agents and when you get a broad consensus from the former I tend to think, rightly or wrongly, then I take that to be reasonably accurate. That said, some journos quote an amount which includes all potential add-ons which is, IMHO, misleading.

[ecc]

Get the feeling the same people who thought Gyokeres wasn't good enough for us think Sargent isn't either? Pretty sick of hearing we need a twenty goals a season striker! We are so far down the Q for that player is not funny. We need basically need a Wood type signing who will grow into that player if we manage to stay up.

Let's be honest, unless we got very, very lucky we could never sign a 20-goal a season striker. You have to average one in two and play all 38 games.

[ksrclaret]

Leeds and Sunderland are certainly making signings and moves for players that I’m envious of. They’re getting the spine as strong as possible and we’ve a hell of a lot of work to do there.

[Jakubs Tash]

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[burnley007]

Sassuolo and Italy striker Andrea Pinamonti is attracting interest from West Ham United, with London rivals Brentford also enquiring about the 26-year-old. (Standard)

BBC Gossip this morning

[BigChaCha]

by RVclaret » Wed Jul 16

Our midfield is so far off as it stands...

by ollieclarets8 » Wed Jul 16

Our midfield clearly needs strengthening...

Kompany's Burnley team on the last day of the season had Odobert, Cullen, Berge and Larson in it...

That's far better than anything we can put out now; we have nobody anywhere near the same class as Berge. We need to get a shift on, or it's curtains before we even start the season!

[kentonclaret]

Let's be honest, unless we got very, very lucky we could never sign a 20-goal a season striker. You have to average one in two and play all 38 games.

Looking at last season’s leading scorers list in the PL it is interesting to see how a couple of clubs benefited hugely from scoring partnerships. Mbuemo and Wissa combined to score 39 goals for Brentford and Cunha and Larsen to score 29 for Wolves. Not surprisingly, Brentford have stated that they are not prepared to lose both strikers in this window and Wolves are keen to retain Larsen.

[kentonclaret]

Leeds and Sunderland are certainly making signings and moves for players that I’m envious of. They’re getting the spine as strong as possible and we’ve a hell of a lot of work to do there.

At the end of the day it will all come down to club finances. Sunderland have signed 5 players all costing more than £17.5m each and are in the process of adding yet more high profile names.

[ksrclaret]

At the end of the day it will all come down to club finances. Sunderland have signed 5 players all costing more than £17.5m each and are in the process of adding yet more high profile names.

I don’t doubt they have more money than we do, and I wouldn’t expect us to be in the market for someone like Xhaka as Sunderland seem to be.

My point is that the spine of our team has already lost 2 of its very best players, and so far we’ve signed Tuanzebe on a free transfer. There’s a hell of a lot of work to do there.

[Woodleyclaret]

We have a strong team strengthened with some decent signings .Sunderland are using a scattergun approach with no idea as to the challenges they are facing next season..

[ksrclaret]

.Sunderland are using a scattergun approach with no idea as to the challenges they are facing next season..

Aye, and I suppose they're an "alehouse brawler" team as well.

[CyrilEbokiPoh]

We have a strong team strengthened with some decent signings .Sunderland are using a scattergun approach with no idea as to the challenges they are facing next season..

I think on the face of it sunderland have made some very good signings. Xhaka in particular will be exceptional at this level.

This is exactly why I didn't want Sunderland to come up. They are a much bigger draw than Sheffield United and can definitely attract players we cant.

But if we can compete in a way Dyche had us doing, we can still have a chance of staying up.

[Woodleyclaret]

Sunderland have great fans and they are fiercely loyal they will need them but imo we will finish above them. We have Super Scotty Parker who is a great draw.

[ClaretTony]

Looking at last season’s leading scorers list in the PL it is interesting to see how a couple of clubs benefited hugely from scoring partnerships. Mbuemo and Wissa combined to score 39 goals for Brentford and Cunha and Larsen to score 29 for Wolves. Not surprisingly, Brentford have stated that they are not prepared to lose both strikers in this window and Wolves are keen to retain Larsen.

Larsen was on loan at Wolves but they have recently signed him permanently

[ClaretTony]

10m offer for lad from Watford turned down apparently

When did that first get a mention? I’ve just seen it come up on SSN. I think he scored their goal against us at Vicarage Road.

[billyhamilton82]

A 32 year old Granit Xhaka @ £8.7 million is tremendous value.

I'm surprised a bigger club aren't interested, surely we could join the party at that price?

[Row x]

When did that first get a mention? I’ve just seen it come up on SSN. I think he scored their goal against us at Vicarage Road.

Been a few twitter reports, and mentioned on the two transfer threads

[GrahamBranchsPerm]

Agree Xhaka going to Sunderland would be seriously good for them.

If they pull that off, I think it nudges them above ourselves and Leeds, as things stand.

UTC

[Commy]

Sunderland have to sort out their defence yet. They have also gone for young players up to now so don't know if they will sink or swim. I think I read somewhere that they lose their entire midfield, or pretty much most of it, for AFCON.

[clarets1978]

Kompany's Burnley team on the last day of the season had Odobert, Cullen, Berge and Larson in it...

That's far better than anything we can put out now; we have nobody anywhere near the same class as Berge. We need to get a shift on, or it's curtains before we even start the season!

A full month before the first game of the season and another half a month before the window closes. I dont think we are anywhere near this level of panic yet

[Commy]

We can set Barnes and Roberts on Xhaka and get him sent off

[ClaretTony]

We can set Barnes and Roberts on Xhaka and get him sent off

He’s been sent off twice against us already.

[Elizabeth]

A 32 year old Granit Xhaka @ £8.7 million is tremendous value.

I'm surprised a bigger club aren't interested, surely we could join the party at that price?

Reported the Saudis interested

[Longsider]

Reported the Saudis interested

Good

[Commy]

He’s been sent off twice against us already.

He is easily wound up

[ollieclarets8]

We have a strong team strengthened with some decent signings.

Agree. All I'm reading on here is how good other clubs are doing, yet if you look at the players we've signed, we've already had a solid window so far with plenty of time to improve further.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Let's be honest, unless we got very, very lucky we could never sign a 20-goal a season striker. You have to average one in two and play all 38 games.

And depending on the contract they are on cost minimum 30-50 million and are on 100k plus a week......

[claretonthecoast1882]

Players who scored 20 plus last season

Salah
Isak
Haaland
Wood
Mbeumo

The end

[AfloatinClaret]

A full month before the first game of the season and another half a month before the window closes. I dont think we are anywhere near this level of panic yet

There's some who enjoy a good panic... Prefer it to cricket in summer.

[Goliath]

I hope Parker isn't thinking Cullen can be the main man in our midfield at this level. We've seen that he struggles at the higher level and doesn't have the physical attributes to compete. He's useful but we need a big upgrade in there.

[jojomk1]

I hope Parker isn't thinking Cullen can be the main man in our midfield at this level. We've seen that he struggles at the higher level and doesn't have the physical attributes to compete. He's useful but we need a big upgrade in there.

I doubt any of our current central midfielders have the physical attributes, strength or pace for the Premier League

[ksrclaret]

I doubt any of our current central midfielders have the physical attributes, strength or pace for the Premier League

Cullen has the technique and the intelligence, but not the physical attributes. He can hold his own but he'll need a lot of help in there.

Laurent has the physical attributes, but not the technical ability. His passing was found wanting at Championship level many times but we got away with it.

Hannibal actually has a good mixture of both, but lacks the discipline at the moment and Parker didn't trust him in one of the deeper midfield roles. That can be worked on though and I suspect Hannibal will be the one who takes to the PL most naturally.

And that's all we've got for now. We're massively underpowered in the most important area of the pitch. Let's hope there is some good news on this front soon.

[warksclaret]

We have been praising Parker for the past 4-5 months in the way he has steered us to promotion/100 points/30 clean sheets/man management etc

As we know, in his day he was one of the fiercest midfielders I had seen in this country, so lets assume, having managed in the PL already, that he knows first hand what is required in our midfield, if its to have a chance. Further to that I think the Board will back him. What I am confident we wont have pre the eve of the season, is a max exodus of our best players-unlike last year

[dandeclaret]

Kompany's Burnley team on the last day of the season had Odobert, Cullen, Berge and Larson in it...

That's far better than anything we can put out now; we have nobody anywhere near the same class as Berge. We need to get a shift on, or it's curtains before we even start the season!

Kompany's team also had a naive coaching team stood on the sidelines..... we have a different coaching and leadership team this time.

[dandeclaret]

We have been praising Parker for the past 4-5 months in the way he has steered us to promotion/100 points/30 clean sheets/man management etc

As we know, in his day he was one of the fiercest midfielders I had seen in this country, so lets assume, having managed in the PL already, that he knows first hand what is required in our midfield, if its to have a chance. Further to that I think the Board will back him. What I am confident we wont have pre the eve of the season, is a max exodus of our best players-unlike last year

Away with your sensible calm posts........ this is the mass panic thread.

[Goliath]

Cullen has the technique and the intelligence, but not the physical attributes. He can hold his own but he'll need a lot of help in there.

Laurent has the physical attributes, but not the technical ability. His passing was found wanting at Championship level many times but we got away with it.

Hannibal actually has a good mixture of both, but lacks the discipline at the moment and Parker didn't trust him in one of the deeper midfield roles. That can be worked on though and I suspect Hannibal will be the one who takes to the PL most naturally.

And that's all we've got for now. We're massively underpowered in the most important area of the pitch. Let's hope there is some good news on this front soon.

Good summary. Hannibal will be useful so I think we have 2 that could play regularly but they need real quality bringing in with them. From what I've seen of Parker I think he will want to invert last seasons one holding midfielder with two 8s quite often. So I think we we will spend big money on a big physical holder to play alongside Cullen.

Laurent can go for me, he's nowhere near.

[aggi]

We have been praising Parker for the past 4-5 months in the way he has steered us to promotion/100 points/30 clean sheets/man management etc

As we know, in his day he was one of the fiercest midfielders I had seen in this country, so lets assume, having managed in the PL already, that he knows first hand what is required in our midfield, if its to have a chance. Further to that I think the Board will back him. What I am confident we wont have pre the eve of the season, is a max exodus of our best players-unlike last year

So, you're saying that it looks like Scott Parker will be coming out of retirement for us next season in a desperate last throw of the dice.

[ksrclaret]

Do we really have to descend into the accusations of mass panic? Can we not just give honest appraisals without needing to pick a black or white side?

Twitter or X is where you want to be if that's your thing.

[burnley007]

Do we really have to descend into the accusations of mass panic? Can we not just give honest appraisals without needing to pick a black or white side?

Twitter or X is where you want to be if that's your thing.

This is the modern world.

Left or right.
MAGA or normal
Woke or ignorant

[claretburns]

Agree Xhaka going to Sunderland would be seriously good for them.

If they pull that off, I think it nudges them above ourselves and Leeds, as things stand.

UTC

Saw yesterday that Roma and a few Saudi clubs were interested at €10 million, thought he would be a great signing for us but no chance. Now seeing the Sunderland link, if he is willing for a relegation battle we should be all over the deal.

[mkmel]

Away with your sensible calm posts........ this is the mass panic thread.

Love it

[BleedingClaret]

Cullen has the technique and the intelligence, but not the physical attributes. He can hold his own but he'll need a lot of help in there.

Laurent has the physical attributes, but not the technical ability. His passing was found wanting at Championship level many times but we got away with it.

Hannibal actually has a good mixture of both, but lacks the discipline at the moment and Parker didn't trust him in one of the deeper midfield roles. That can be worked on though and I suspect Hannibal will be the one who takes to the PL most naturally.

And that's all we've got for now. We're massively underpowered in the most important area of the pitch. Let's hope there is some good news on this front soon.

just out of interest how would you have described Brownhill in that list, genuine question, just curious.

[FeedTheArf]

And depending on the contract they are on cost minimum 30-50 million and are on 100k plus a week......

Was surprised to see in The Athletic that we are paying Walker £160k a week. I’d be surprised if we’ve even broke 100k a week in the past.

[Goliath]

Was surprised to see in The Athletic that we are paying Walker £160k a week. I’d be surprised if we’ve even broke 100k a week in the past.

No chance. Maybe they've included the signing on fee in that figure

[BleedingClaret]

Players with the temperament of Xhaka will struggle going from being part of a team that dominates games to being on the other side in a team being dominated
On the flipside he could be a leader that drives on players around him, and ups their game.
Though I feel predominantly if he is physically on the downturn himself it's hard to do this.

[ksrclaret]

just out of interest how would you have described Brownhill in that list, genuine question, just curious.

Outstanding energy and stamina, and with his recently discovered knack for goals, perfect for SP’s advanced midfielder role. However, lacks the presence and range of passing to play deeper in the premier league as we’ve found out in the seasons he’s played there. Big miss overall and hard to replace.