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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:04 pm

Cullen for the last 3 months of our last PL season was up to speed and didn’t look a bad player at all. This time he’ll be ready to go from day 1. He does need a power house beside him.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by AshevilleNCClaret » Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:10 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:37 pm
Kompany's team also had a naive coaching team stood on the sidelines..... we have a different coaching and leadership team this time.
I agree. I think Kompany was WAY in over his head. Parker's experience should be worth a few points (provided we don't can him by Christmas time).

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by kentonclaret » Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:27 pm

AshevilleNCClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:10 pm
I agree. I think Kompany was WAY in over his head. Parker's experience should be worth a few points (provided we don't can him by Christmas time).
Scott Parker was relieved of his duties by Bournemouth after just 4 matches, the last of which was a 9-0 reverse away at Liverpool. This followed a home victory in the first game and defeats against Man City and Arsenal, so a tough set of opening fixtures.
Ironically, the 4th match of the new season sees us at home to Liverpool. Scott will definitely be hoping for a far better result and outcome following the end of the game.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Conroy92 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:31 pm

BleedingClaret wrote:
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Players with the temperament of Xhaka will struggle going from being part of a team that dominates games to being on the other side in a team being dominated
On the flipside he could be a leader that drives on players around him, and ups their game.
Though I feel predominantly if he is physically on the downturn himself it's hard to do this.
Personally I don't agree. After watching him for the swiss several times he absolutely seems to relish the challenge of going up against the better clubs.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:36 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:40 pm
Was surprised to see in The Athletic that we are paying Walker £160k a week. I’d be surprised if we’ve even broke 100k a week in the past.
I don't see any way we are paying Walker anything remotely close to 160K a week

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:56 pm

No truth in bid for Doumbia according to Matt Scranton.

https://x.com/matt_scrafton/status/1945 ... 34964?s=46

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by exilecanada » Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:00 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:40 pm
Was surprised to see in The Athletic that we are paying Walker £160k a week. I’d be surprised if we’ve even broke 100k a week in the past.
There's no way BFC are paying Walker 160k/week :shock: When Joe Hart came here wasn't he still under contract to City but not wanted by Pep? Apparently the clubs and Hart came up with some kind of 'arrangement', maybe the Walker deal is similar? :roll:

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:11 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:56 pm
No truth in bid for Doumbia according to Matt Scranton.

https://x.com/matt_scrafton/status/1945 ... 34964?s=46
Good, 10m seemed way to high, seems like agent using a club to get a new deal

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by helmclaret » Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:11 pm

Goliath wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:39 pm
Good summary. Hannibal will be useful so I think we have 2 that could play regularly but they need real quality bringing in with them. From what I've seen of Parker I think he will want to invert last seasons one holding midfielder with two 8s quite often. So I think we we will spend big money on a big physical holder to play alongside Cullen.

Laurent can go for me, he's nowhere near.
'invert last seasons one holding midfielder with two 8s'

Brilliant!

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:11 pm

I think whatever deal Walker is on, it has to be a first for the club. I just can’t see he’d be here given the offers he must have had on the table, unless we were offering him huge money.

160k seems unrealistic but not beyond the realms of possibility for year one. Presumably there’s a massive reduction in year two should we go down, and he’s likely to leave anyway I would have thought.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ecc » Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:25 pm

I'd really love to be wrong but I don't see Pinamonti scoring many in the PL. His record in Serie A, where the level seems to get lower each season, is barely one in four. But who knows?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by helmclaret » Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:35 pm

Goliath wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:39 pm
Good summary. Hannibal will be useful so I think we have 2 that could play regularly but they need real quality bringing in with them. From what I've seen of Parker I think he will want to invert last seasons one holding midfielder with two 8s quite often. So I think we we will spend big money on a big physical holder to play alongside Cullen.

Laurent can go for me, he's nowhere near.
How about inverting the full backs, using a double pivot and two 6’s, an 8, a false 9, 2 tens and a 9.5?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Goliath » Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:40 pm

Is inverting a simple triangle really that complex a concept for you?
I'd be less willing to admit that if I were you.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Targetman » Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:44 pm

helmclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:35 pm
How about inverting the full backs, using a double pivot and two 6’s, an 8, a false 9, 2 tens and a 9.5?

Who was it who said..."Football is a simple game"..??

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ollieclarets8 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:45 pm

Targetman wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:44 pm
Who was it who said..."Football is a simple game"..??
I'm sure I've read on here somebody mention Quarterback!

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Big Vinny K » Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:47 pm

helmclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:35 pm
How about inverting the full backs, using a double pivot and two 6’s, an 8, a false 9, 2 tens and a 9.5?
Ladies and gentlemen. England will be playing four, four fu*%ing, two.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:51 pm

ecc wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:25 pm
I'd really love to be wrong but I don't see Pinamonti scoring many in the PL. His record in Serie A, where the level seems to get lower each season, is barely one in four. But who knows?
I really want there to be something in the Pinamonti links, looks to be able to score all type of goals and looks fantastic in the air, goal scoring record isn’t great but to get 10 and 11 goals in his last 2 Serie A seasons with two struggling teams isn’t to be sniffed at

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:56 pm

exilecanada wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:00 pm
There's no way BFC are paying Walker 160k/week :shock: When Joe Hart came here wasn't he still under contract to City but not wanted by Pep? Apparently the clubs and Hart came up with some kind of 'arrangement', maybe the Walker deal is similar? :roll:
Joe Hart still had a year left on his City contract when he joined us.
They agreed to pay 50% of that with BFC paying the rest for the year

Suspect something similar with Walker

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by whiffa » Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:59 pm

Any transfer rumours chaps?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Dark Cloud » Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:00 pm

Targetman wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:44 pm
Who was it who said..."Football is a simple game"..??
Well it wasn't Goliath!

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Steddyman » Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:02 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:40 pm
Was surprised to see in The Athletic that we are paying Walker £160k a week. I’d be surprised if we’ve even broke 100k a week in the past.
Why does it matter? £160k a week for 2 years is £16m. Is that any worse than paying £16m transfer fee for a much lesser player then £40k a week in wages for 2 years? All that matters is the Total Cost of Ownership

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by taio » Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:16 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:02 pm
Why does it matter? £160k a week for 2 years is £16m. Is that any worse than paying £16m transfer fee for a much lesser player then £40k a week in wages for 2 years? All that matters is the Total Cost of Ownership
And resale value

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by FeedTheArf » Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:26 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:02 pm
Why does it matter? £160k a week for 2 years is £16m. Is that any worse than paying £16m transfer fee for a much lesser player then £40k a week in wages for 2 years? All that matters is the Total Cost of Ownership
It matters because if I’m Esteve’s agent and I see us paying 160k then I’m going to be asking for more for my client.

That said, I do find it hard to believe it’s a straight 160k. I’d expect a large portion of that is made up of some handshake from City and bonuses contingent on staying up which might, overall, equate to 160k

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Goliath » Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:32 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:00 pm
Well it wasn't Goliath!
Is it just a Burnley thing to find the idea of inverting a triangle really complex? :shock: :shock:

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:02 pm

Goliath wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:32 pm
Is it just a Burnley thing to find the idea of inverting a triangle really complex? :shock: :shock:
I think Liam Gallagher plays the triangle as well as the tambourine.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by JohnDearyMe » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:05 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:04 pm
Cullen for the last 3 months of our last PL season was up to speed and didn’t look a bad player at all. This time he’ll be ready to go from day 1. He does need a power house beside him.
Agreed. I thought he didn't look match fit in the early part of the season but looked a lot better as it came towards an end.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by JarrowClaret » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:38 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:21 pm
I doubt any of our current central midfielders have the physical attributes, strength or pace for the Premier League
Why would you think that?

Cullen struggled in the early prem matches he was over ran with 1 pivot once we changed to a double pivot and he returned he was much improved and was certainly good enough. Laurent has the physical attributes for the prem and will let nobody down but you wouldn’t want him starting too many more a last 20 minutes shore if player. I believe that Hannibal will step up and be our best midfielder next season technically very good and physically good as well with decent pace his only let down was his attitude which you wouldn’t hope he has learned about and improved it for the prem.

I agree though we need a signing in here for me this should be someone who either breaks or gets close to our transfer record probably our most important signing.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Steddyman » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:08 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:26 pm
It matters because if I’m Esteve’s agent and I see us paying 160k then I’m going to be asking for more for my client.

That said, I do find it hard to believe it’s a straight 160k. I’d expect a large portion of that is made up of some handshake from City and bonuses contingent on staying up which might, overall, equate to 160k
No you wouldn't. That is like saying the cleaner at the bank I work for wants to 10x her salary because she found out what I am being paid.

Kyle Walker is a current England International with countless caps and has been playing at the highest level for 10 years. There is nobody in our squad anywhere near his CV.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by BleedingClaret » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:19 pm

Conroy92 wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:31 pm
Personally I don't agree. After watching him for the swiss several times he absolutely seems to relish the challenge of going up against the better clubs.
Switzerland are pretty good these days
Probably play more Nations below their standard than above
Playing for Arsenal against Burnley isn’t the same as playing for Burnley against Arsenal

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by BleedingClaret » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:25 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:51 pm
Outstanding energy and stamina, and with his recently discovered knack for goals, perfect for SP’s advanced midfielder role. However, lacks the presence and range of passing to play deeper in the premier league as we’ve found out in the seasons he’s played there. Big miss overall and hard to replace.
Thanks
Pretty much how I’d see it

It’s almost a probably not good enough to dominate a midfield in the Premier League especially in a weaker team but is probably better than we can get to replace him including as a goal threat of which we have very few

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Nonayforever » Wed Jul 16, 2025 10:10 pm

Will we play with equilateral or isosceles triangles in midfield ?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed Jul 16, 2025 10:13 pm

A fellow pro would appreciate that includes his signing on fee spread over the two years.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Goliath » Wed Jul 16, 2025 10:24 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 10:10 pm
Will we play with equilateral or isosceles triangles in midfield ?
So it's the idea of a triangle you found too complicated?
I'm starting to understand why English football was so far behind for so many years. If somebody mentioned a triangle they got told they were making a simple game too difficult!

Thank God for the influx of foreign coaches.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Steddyman » Wed Jul 16, 2025 10:33 pm

It has gone very quiet this week, almost like the team have had to divert all their attention towards the Espanyol takeover.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Jul 16, 2025 10:38 pm

Goliath wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 10:24 pm
So it's the idea of a triangle you found too complicated?
I'm starting to understand why English football was so far behind for so many years. If somebody mentioned a triangle they got told they were making a simple game too difficult!

Thank God for the influx of foreign coaches.

Nothing new with triangles. Saw this in the 70s.
Basically football tactics get recycled and renamed.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Selby Claret » Wed Jul 16, 2025 11:02 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 10:33 pm
It has gone very quiet this week, almost like the team have had to divert all their attention towards the Espanyol takeover.
Or they’re in Portugal

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Steddyman » Wed Jul 16, 2025 11:06 pm

Selby Claret wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 11:02 pm
Or they’re in Portugal
I can't imagine the scouting and recruitment team is in Portugal.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Steddyman » Wed Jul 16, 2025 11:18 pm

Update on Sargent from Norwich journalist on Twitter:

'Still no acceptable bids received by #NCFC for Josh Sargent. Wolfsburg and Burnley have been getting closer but certainly nothing imminent and little change over the last couple of days. Sargent is in the Netherlands with his team-mates.'

https://x.com/SamSeaman8/status/1945577411254354223

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by kentonclaret » Wed Jul 16, 2025 11:25 pm

Carry on Sargent :lol:
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Row x » Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:40 am

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 11:06 pm
I can't imagine the scouting and recruitment team is in Portugal.
Not in Spain either
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Jakubs Tash » Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:23 am

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 11:06 pm
I can't imagine the scouting and recruitment team is in Portugal.
Why would the Burnley FC scouting and recruitment team be involved with the takeover of Espanyol?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Guller Bull » Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:45 am

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:23 am
Why would the Burnley FC scouting and recruitment team be involved with the takeover of Espanyol?

What has Espanyol got to do with Portugal?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Jakubs Tash » Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:35 am

Guller Bull wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:45 am
What has Espanyol got to do with Portugal?
Maybe scroll up a few posts….?
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Guller Bull » Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:47 am

What I meant to say was that recruitment is probably more likely to be involved with loans/transfers to/from Espanyol than on a jolly with the boys on the Algarve.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by adropofclaret » Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:53 am

News reporting Sargent signs for Wolfsburg for circa £16m

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Row x » Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:57 am

adropofclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:53 am
News reporting Sargent signs for Wolfsburg for circa £16m
Which news?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by nil_desperandum » Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:58 am

adropofclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:53 am
News reporting Sargent signs for Wolfsburg for circa £16m
Disappointing if true.
£16m strikes me as good business for the German club.

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Re: Summer transfer window

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Row x » Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:02 am

nil_desperandum wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:58 am
Disappointing if true.
£16m strikes me as good business for the German club.
The last report I saw was from a Norwich reporter who said no club had agreed a fee and the player was away with Norwich. That was late yesterday

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by RVclaret » Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:05 am

No chance Norwich sell Sargent for £13.8m.

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