Penalty rebound to be banned

[Terrier]

IFAB ( no me neither) are currently deciding on whether to ban scoring a goal from a pen rebound, if the player does not score 1st time a goal kick will be awarded .
Saying it could come in before the 2026 world cup.

[BleedingClaret]

That’s just daft

[Culmclaret]

Why?? What is the problem they are trying to solve?

[Somethingfishy]

Why? Just why?

[Cirrus_Minor]

Probably religious types wanting to stop the "Jesus saves, Barnes scores the rebound" posters

[robinoz]

Presumably to address the anomaly between penalties during the game (rebounds allowed) and penalties in a shoot out (rebounds not allowed)

[Rileybobs]

And the farce which is players encroaching into the area.

[Paul Waine]

Presumably to address the anomaly between penalties during the game (rebounds allowed) and penalties in a shoot out (rebounds not allowed)

And the anomaly is what?

Penalties during the game, the game is still being played: player shoots, keeper get's hand to the ball and it bounces back of the post/crossbar, the ball is still in play and opportunity for attacker to score and defenders to defend.

Penalty shoot out: game has already finished, scores even. penalty shoot out between one penalty taker and the goalkeeper. Score or miss, that's all there is to it.

Do IFAB think penalty in football should be treated the same as free throw in basketball?

[LeadBelly]

Why?? What is the problem they are trying to solve?

I'd guess the problem is: trying to demonstrate that they are doing something to justify their (probably huge) salaries.

[ClaretTony]

David Elleray is the main man at IFAB

[gandhisflipflop]

David Elleray is the main man at IFAB

Our referee for the Stockport game in 94 wasn’t he?

[Goliath]

I actually agree with this. The chances of a goal are already about 80% at a guess, that's massively enhanced with rebounds. If you miss you don't deserve a 2nd go at it.

[ClaretTony]

Our referee for the Stockport game in 94 wasn’t he?

He was yes.

[burnmark]

And the anomaly is what?

Penalties during the game, the game is still being played: player shoots, keeper get's hand to the ball and it bounces back of the post/crossbar, the ball is still in play and opportunity for attacker to score and defenders to defend.

Penalty shoot out: game has already finished, scores even. penalty shoot out between one penalty taker and the goalkeeper. Score or miss, that's all there is to it.

Do IFAB think penalty in football should be treated the same as free throw in basketball?

My first thought was another Americanisation was on its way, but play carries on even after the second free throw in basketball.

[Roosterbooster]

And the farce which is players encroaching into the area.

This is it

Change a rule that doesn't need changing just because they don't enforce another

[Spijed]

I actually agree with this. The chances of a goal are already about 80% at a guess, that's massively enhanced with rebounds. If you miss you don't deserve a 2nd go at it.

You aren't getting a second go at it, hence why a player scoring from a rebound just gets credited with scoring a normal goal

[distortiondave]

I get it at its most basic level;
Goal; keeper saves and its a corner; keeper saves and its held; player hits wide and its a goalkick; - what's the proposed protocol for hitting the woodwork or keeper saving it a long distance and rebounding back into play?

[ClaretTony]

And the farce which is players encroaching into the area.

Isn’t that now only an offence if they affect the play?

[CyrilEbokiPoh]

I get it at its most basic level;
Goal; keeper saves and its a corner; keeper saves and its held; player hits wide and its a goalkick; - what's the proposed protocol for hitting the woodwork or keeper saving it a long distance and rebounding back into play?

Keeper gets a finger tip to the pen. But ref doesn’t see / isn’t clear. Hits post and rebounds out. What happens then.

I’m getting more and more disillusioned with the beautiful game.

A game that for 100+ years was loved in its raw form. Errors. Mistakes. And fouls included.

It’s now being sanitised and messed with beyond belief.

Most normal fans are fed up with it. Problem is. They don’t really give a **** about normal fans.

[Rileybobs]

Isn’t that now only an offence if they affect the play?

Yes, I believe so. But of course they would only affect play if the penalty happens to be saved or rebounded off the woodwork - and then VAR have a job on their hands analysing who was encroaching and whether or not they affected play. I suspect this is another example of a law potentially being changed due to the introduction of VAR.

[timshorts]

So when it hits the post bounces onto the back of the keeper and into the net, that won't be a goal?

Changin g a rule that doesn't need changing seems very wengerish.

[whiffa]

What would happen in this instance, if the shot hits the post then rebounds off the back of the keeper and goes in? Is it an own goal? A goal kick? Interesting.

[Goalkeeper]

What would happen in this instance, if the shot hits the post then rebounds off the back of the keeper and goes in? Is it an own goal? A goal kick? Interesting.

It's quite clearly a goal as the keeper hasn't saved it. If he touches it onto the post, the game stops.
But I don't think it should be changed though.

[whiffa]

It's quite clearly a goal as the keeper hasn't saved it. If he touches it onto the post, the game stops.
But I don't think it should be changed though.

Does hitting the woodwork and coming back out away from goal not technically class as a "rebound" though? I think the goal should still stand too but I can see it being debated.

[TheFamilyCat]

IFAB ( no me neither) are currently deciding on whether to ban scoring a goal from a pen rebound, if the player does not score 1st time a goal kick will be awarded .
Saying it could come in before the 2026 world cup.

Slightly hysterical title. From what I have read there are a lot of words like "proposal" and "considering" that the permanently outraged (like Talk sport presenters) are ignoring.

[CyrilEbokiPoh]

It's quite clearly a goal as the keeper hasn't saved it. If he touches it onto the post, the game stops.
But I don't think it should be changed though.

What if he tips it on to the post and it rolls in

[timshorts]

If they are going to change the rules, I'd rather they allowed the keeper to come charging off his line as soon as a kick taker stops or stutters or deliberately slows down in his run up.

[GordonvaleClaret]

When taking a penalty, you are not compelled to shoot for goal.
The law states that the ball must be played forward and the taker cannot play the ball again until it has been played by another player.
The taker may treat the initial play-the-ball like an indirect free kick and tap the ball forwards for a team mate to run on to.

[Clive 1960]

Every year they are wanting to change the rules of the game we first introduced just let game be as it is and let us folk try and enjoy it ...

[Goalkeeper]

What if he tips it on to the post and it rolls in

Goal, because he hasn't saved it.

[wilks_bfc]

When taking a penalty, you are not compelled to shoot for goal.
The law states that the ball must be played forward and the taker cannot play the ball again until it has been played by another player.
The taker may treat the initial play-the-ball like an indirect free kick and tap the ball forwards for a team mate to run on to.

Henry & Pires tried that once and fd it up

[GordonvaleClaret]

Cruyff did it OK.
https://www.facebook.com/JohanCruyff14/ ... 034838594/

[Tackler49]

I think if isn’t broke why fix it only goalkeeper saves count not rebounds from the woodwork. What i think does need addressing is where throw ins are taken from some referees allow players to walk way past where the ball went out all it needs is for the ref to mark where he thinks the ball went out like free kicks it’s just ridiculous how players are allowed to take advantage

[dougcollins]

Presumably to address the anomaly between penalties during the game (rebounds allowed) and penalties in a shoot out (rebounds not allowed)

Completely different scenarios, I can't believe anyone could get mixed up over that.

Taking a penalty kick during the game is putting the ball back into open play - in a penalty shootout, it isn't.

[Paul Waine]

My first thought was another Americanisation was on its way, but play carries on even after the second free throw in basketball.

Watching France v Germany. Just seen French goalkeeper save German penalty followed by the race to get to the ball which the French defender won. Football would be less if the current rule is messed with.

[Middle-agedClaret]

He was yes.

And for our play-off final v. Stockport County in 1994.
My friend and I bumped into him ( …not literally…) in the concourse before the match.

[boatshed bill]

I've probably posted this comment before, but: goal-line technology apart, I can't think of a single rule improvement since I started playing (1960ish).
FIFA is bonkers, who are they trying to please?

[RickyBobby]

They are trying to fix these that aren‘t broken. Looking for solutions to problems that don’t exist and that no one asked for!
I presume this will ne done to somehow make the game more appealing to American audiences? That is the reason for everything these days.
Football is dying.

[chekhov]

I've probably posted this comment before, but: goal-line technology apart, I can't think of a single rule improvement since I started playing (1960ish).
FIFA is bonkers, who are they trying to please?

What about the pass back rule for goalkeepers? This made a huge improvement in my opinion. Also, the new goal kick rule is much simpler and more sensible.

[Rileybobs]

…
Introduction of red and yellow cards
Introduction of tactical substitutions
Kick offs being able to be played backwards
Offside only applying to players interfering with play

[Woodleyclaret]

As someone once said maybe Clough, football is a simple game Unfortunately,it's being screwed up with incompetent refs promoted far too quickly,var and now the latest "improvement "
Why?Rebounds are ok and add to the excitement.

[dougcollins]

I've probably posted this comment before, but: goal-line technology apart, I can't think of a single rule improvement since I started playing (1960ish).
FIFA is bonkers, who are they trying to please?

Take your point, but I'd probably add the backpass rule.

[dougcollins]

Henry & Pires tried that once and fd it up

Cruyff and Neeskens did it.

[boatshed bill]

Take your point, but I'd probably add the backpass rule.

The backpass wasn't a problem in the 60's when the 'keeper had to get on with things (with the old 4 steps and bounce rule).

[Ric_C]

I would change the rule so as as soon as the striker starts his run up, the keeper can move where he likes. The ball basically becomes active once the run up is instigated. This would stop these ridiculous struttering stop start "look at me" penalties. Maybe limit the goalkeeper to the six yard box until the ball is kicked or something. Would be interesting to see how this would play out.