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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by burnley007 » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:16 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:13 pm
Callum Wilson linked by Mike McGrath. Has options in US and Saudi though. Proven goalscorer at this level but fitness has to be a worry, surely?
Is that a reliable source?
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by RVclaret » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:18 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:16 pm
Is that a reliable source?
Don't recognise the name
One of the most reliable, I’d say.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:23 pm

yes McGrath is very reliable. Sunderland getting Xhaka is big for them and looks like it'll get done else Ornstein wouldn't report it.
With the obvious acknowledgement of the time left in the window and we will be working on it I'd say we have a lot of work to do, as it stands we are way short of what will be required in midfield.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Conroy92 » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:26 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 11:01 am
It was clear to everyone almost immediately that the 2023 summer window left us with a bloated but totally unbalanced squad that wouldn't be experienced or robust enough for the challenge ahead. I don't think it took a genius to comment on it and BigChaCha certainly wasn't the lone voice as he claims to be.

The recruitment so far has pointed to lessons learned with everyone looking up to the challenge physically and some experience brought in as well. The problem is most of it improves the periphery of the pitch whilst we've lost big players from the spine and not replaced them yet. The challenge now is to make sure we get a minimum of 1 GK, 1 CM, and 1 CF who are all top end in the next few weeks. That will be what determines if we complete this season or struggle to get to 20 points.
I agree with some of what you have posted but I don't agree with the idea that we have only improved the periphery of the squad.

We've lost two big players from last season in CJ and Brownhill. I would suggest that Brownhill we would have been calling to have been more a of a squad player this season with a replacement coming in. So the only real big player I would argue we have lost is CJ. When Traff goes that will likely be two spots we would consider starters that have had to have been replaced. We will sign a replacement keeper for at most half the price and use the remaining to strengthen.
I don't feel either of Walker or Hartman are players on the periphery of the squad. Outside of centre midfield and Striker every man and his dog has been asking for two new full backs and it was getting to something of a necessity at this level. It unlocks Humphreys at Centre half and gives us Tuanzabe as an upgrade on the previous options.

At the start of the window I wanted
2 x full backs
2x CM
1 x ST
1 x Winger
1 x CB

We are left with needing
2x CM
1x ST
And a replacement for Traff should he go.

Considering Brownhill going will have to push us to sign at least 1 CM, I don't think it's in doubt personally and would expect us to get one fairly soon
For me, that would mean we will be one additional CM and a ST still to go and that would have been a pretty perfect window. Considering where we are. I think we have done remarkably well and far better than just adding to the periphery of the squad. For what it's worth I fully expect us to get one CM as said above and a ST. Which in my perfect window would leave us one CM short but still an absolutely outstanding window. We'll see. Maybe we'll get them all. But we've had a bloody good go so far.
The only thing we seem to be struggling with is shifting some of the deadwood on.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:31 pm

Perhaps I chose the wrong word but when I said we’ve improved the periphery of the team, I actually meant we’d improved the team down the sides i.e. at full back and down the wings.

Walker and Hartman will very much improve the starting eleven, possibly even Larsen too if he can rediscover the form he showed with us in Spring 2024.

Now we’ve got to get the middle of the pitch sorted out as everyone can see.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Conroy92 » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:34 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:31 pm
Perhaps I chose the wrong word but when I said we’ve improved the periphery of the team, I actually meant we’d improved the team down the sides i.e. at full back and down the wings.

Walker and Hartman will very much improve the starting eleven, possibly even Larsen too if he can rediscover the form he showed with us in Spring 2024.

Now we’ve got to get the middle of the pitch sorted out as everyone can see.
That I can agree with ;)

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:36 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:13 pm
Callum Wilson linked by Mike McGrath. Has options in US and Saudi though. Proven goalscorer at this level but fitness has to be a worry, surely?
Would be a huge gamble. With our other options being Fleming and Foster not sure we can risk signing Wilson.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Clovius Boofus » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:37 pm

The crap you read on here from a handful of posters.

Trafford was thrown under the bus when we were in the EPL. HTH some of you.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Darnhill Claret » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:40 pm

An̈d let's not forget that at the end of the season, there was a call to not replace all those who had helped us to promotion, to maintain the value of the team spirit from last season.
In house additions from the following, Beyer, Ekdal, Ramsay, Bauress and McDermott, (Tresor) should also be remembered.
I guess that we will only be looking at one defensive midfielder and one striker. (Keeper)

If that is the case, will it be enough to get us to January in a competitive position to avoid relegation???

If this is the case is everyone prepared to positively support all our players through every game??
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by burnley007 » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:40 pm


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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by agreenwood » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:52 pm

I love the idea of signing Wilson until I see his injury record. It’s nothing short of appalling…
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:54 pm

Wilson would be a certain upgrade. The issue is, due to his injury record I don’t feel we could hang our hat on him, and if he signs I can’t imagine we’d go big for another centre forward.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by agreenwood » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:55 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:54 pm
Wilson would be a certain upgrade. The issue is, due to his injury record I don’t feel we could hang our hat on him, and if he signs I can’t imagine we’d go big for another centre forward.
As soon as I posted I had the same thought. Alongside a more sprightly striker signing it’d be decent business, but on his wages you’d imagine he’d be THE signing for the position.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Darnhill Claret » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:58 pm

Recurring hamstring issues are worrying, the most recent for 9 weeks.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by jedi_master » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:58 pm

Our ludicrous squad size dictates we'd be unlikely to sign two strikers. We only play with one up front and will have Flemming, Foster and Barnes in that squad list already. I have always liked Wilson but it's a gamble - but perhaps less so than a foreign punt that has a huge transfer fee (Amdouni). Happy with it if it happens.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:59 pm

Callum Wilson

The dreams of a 20 goals a season striker replaced by dreams of 20 games a season striker
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by willsclarets » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:08 pm

It's a big gamble. With Hartmann it was worth it despite bad injuries, because of his age and potential for a sell on if he excels.

It also depends on what Wilson wants. Flemming/Foster will be given a chance I think, Wilson will at first anyway, not start. As a 20 min cameo player looking for an equaliser/winner we'll not get better than his pedigree. And it'll lessen the burden on his body having that kind of role. But he could start whenever fit in Saudi and earn a badgillion dollars.

I can see why we're interested of we're able to sell him on playing sporadically behind our other two main strikers. I understand for some we need more starting quality, but in lieu of a viable option in our budget its not a bad solution.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by BFC123 » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:10 pm

The Wilson story seems to just be a rehash McGrath’s story from the start of the month

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by RVclaret » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:14 pm

BFC123 wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:10 pm
The Wilson story seems to just be a rehash McGrath’s story from the start of the month
He did an updated tweet:

Callum Wilson an active target for Burnley as free agent. Support within squad + staff to land 33yo with proven goal record who went to last World Cup. Willing to offer Premier League stay but also options abroad

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by CnBtruntru » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:14 pm

Wilson since the 20/21 season has missed 113 games from 190, which is over 60% of games and in the mean time he has got older, no from me.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by burnley007 » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:17 pm

Wilson is a very good player.
I will leave it to our professional staff to decide if they think he's fit enough to play enough games in a season.

We shall see...bet he's not short of options.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ollieclarets8 » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:24 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:13 pm
Callum Wilson linked by Mike McGrath. Has options in US and Saudi though.
Will surely be paid better but another season of Premier Leagae football? He can move abroad nex summer.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by BFC123 » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:46 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:14 pm
He did an updated tweet:

Callum Wilson an active target for Burnley as free agent. Support within squad + staff to land 33yo with proven goal record who went to last World Cup. Willing to offer Premier League stay but also options abroad
Ah fair enough. The article linked above referenced McGrath’s original article from a while back. Thanks

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:48 pm

" support within squad..."...Do they run potential signings past the other players now ?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:18 pm

Gyokores looks finally done to Arsenal

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by willsclarets » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:20 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:52 pm
I love the idea of signing Wilson until I see his injury record. It’s nothing short of appalling…
I didn't realise he's also had two ACL injuries while at Bournemouth! Poor fella. From Parker's pov, the temptation will be to think "if can get him on the pitch for even 15-20 games, he could be the difference", and I totally get that. If his goal contributions win us say 4-6 points across 38 games that's huge. Could be a masterstroke or a "told you so" if he's sat on his behind in the treatment room all season.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by KRBFC » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:20 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 8:43 am
Player ratings count for **** all. Loads of fans, most of whom were smarting over Muric not getting picked, never gave him a fair ride and some blamed him for pretty much every goal we conceded.
Bumba was the main ringleader in that, he couldn’t even bring himself to credit Trafford after his great away performance at Brighton.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:21 pm

Callum Wilson screams desperation, imo. It's the sort of signing clubs make that end up going down and staying down.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Goliath » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:25 pm

Wilson would be a mental signing, I'd prefer Ings by an absolute mile given the choice. He was fit for the majority of last season but couldn't get a game, largely because there was no way they were going to renew his contract at about 100k a week or whatever it was.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by KRBFC » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:26 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:58 pm
Recurring hamstring issues are worrying, the most recent for 9 weeks.
18 appearances last season and 0 goals.

Was once a decent goal scorer, approaching 34 I’m not convinced he’s still got it in him. Injuries take their toll.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:30 pm

If our best option is Wilson then I'd really start to question the scouting and thought process at the club.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by jojomk1 » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:33 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:26 pm
Was once a decent goal scorer, approaching 34 I’m not convinced he’s still got it in him.
And Barnes is approaching 36 !!
And Flemming is not a natural No 9
And Foster is ?
And Obafemi is still with us

Desperate times may need desperate measures. :?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by warksclaret » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:35 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:16 pm
Is that a reliable source?
Don't recognise the name
Played for Newcastle and previously Bournemouth :D

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:36 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:26 pm
18 appearances last season and 0 goals.

Was once a decent goal scorer, approaching 34 I’m not convinced he’s still got it in him. Injuries take their toll.
Those 18 games in total equalled less minutes than 4 games in total.

He isn't the answer for us even as a back up option though.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ollieclarets8 » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:39 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:21 pm
Callum Wilson screams desperation, imo. It's the sort of signing clubs make that end up going down and staying down.
How can signing Callum Wilson say we stay down next season? That doesn't make any sense at all.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by warksclaret » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:44 pm

This is going to be controversial, but if I had the choice of Barnes or Wilson, it would be very much Wilson. Sadly Barnes is already in the squad and you just cant afford to have both. Add to that you would have another question mark on Fosters ability to be available . Wilson is far superior in finding the net despite his poor last season, but all three as you forwards is nonsensical
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by bumba » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:44 pm

If we sign Callum Wilson and no other striker then I couldn't be anymore disappointed before the season has even begun, waste of a wage

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by claretdj » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:47 pm

I'm hoping we sign Wilson & Vardy.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Taffy on the wing » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:52 pm

agreenwood wrote:
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We arguably need a couple of midfielders.

I can see the argument that we already have a few players to play in the Brownhill role, but we need depth too. We’re probably a Cullen or Hannibal injury from Laurent being a starter. I like the fella, but that would not be ideal.
I think Laurent may surprise a few people this year....big strong lad!
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by willsclarets » Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:01 pm

He's an option worth exploring, surely. A striker that gets you 15-20 goals in the premiership is something that most top sides battling for Europe have a hard time finding. They're an undiscovered needle in a haystack, or extortionate. Sargent for instance, looks to be going for around £15 million. Hardly scored a goal at this level.

We got Flemming for around £6.5m I think. Over 50% (9/16) of Flemming's goals or assists came in the last 14 league games alone. In other words, Flemming's ratio improved hugely over the season. Sargent got 4 more goal contributions than Zian over the course of the season, but Flemming outperformed him latterly.

I actually like Sargent so not picking on him specifically, but is it really worth getting someone in who's not obviously better than what we have? (and for a lot of dough) At least with Wilson, you know he has something we don't have; a record in this league, and a poacher's instinct useful at the business end of games. I don't doubt we're looking elsewhere too, but it's also worth giving Flemming a shot if your only options are spending a huge chunk of budget a player of equal calibre.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:03 pm

ollieclarets8 wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:39 pm
How can signing Callum Wilson say we stay down next season? That doesn't make any sense at all.
Clubs that try to gamble on staying up, sign players that are past it on big money with no resale value.

Not saying that we will, that's why I said "it's the sort of signing...."

Seems desperate.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by RVclaret » Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:05 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:03 pm
Clubs that try to gamble on staying up, sign players that are past it on big money with no resale value.

Not saying that we will, that's why I said "it's the sort of signing...."

Seems desperate.
Can’t imagine it being more than a 1 year deal, given fitness concerns.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:06 pm

claretdj wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:47 pm
I'm hoping we sign Wilson & Vardy.

Just to see the mayhem on here?
Not to mention the wetting of beds and melting of snowflakes :D

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:06 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:05 pm
Can’t imagine it being more than a 1 year deal.
Yeah probably not, still a waste of a wage, imo.

He's the type that should be going to the MLS/Saudi/wherever now to play at a lower intensity in his final years as a pro.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by RVclaret » Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:09 pm

Reports from West Ham that they could be signing Wilson.

Aside to that, we’ve been linked with a 6foot 3 attacking midfielder from Croatia, Niko Jankovic. The Croatian piece that this article cites reckons we have scouted him, along with several others. Can’t see another attacking midfielder, unless one or two are leaving.

https://footballplace.co.uk/niko-jankov ... sfer-2025/

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Claretnick » Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:11 pm

I don't think Wilson would want to come here, he always seemed to disrespect us every time he played and scored for Newcastle. I always get the feeling he believes he is too good for us..
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by dandeclaret » Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:15 pm

Claretnick wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:11 pm
I don't think Wilson would want to come here, he always seemed to disrespect us every time he played and scored for Newcastle. I always get the feeling he believes he is too good for us..
My new favourite comment for July.... thanks.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ollieclarets8 » Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:16 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:06 pm
Yeah probably not, still a waste of a wage, imo.

He's the type that should be going to the MLS/Saudi/wherever now to play at a lower intensity in his final years as a pro.
I agree with what you say about it coming across as a bit desperate. But you're ignoring the players we have already signed. You're not alone though - had we made the signings later in the window, people would be saying how well we are doing. Look at our players - if we go down, it's massive compared to other Championship teams.

Also, Kyle Walker has a season in him in the Champ.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by KRBFC » Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:18 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:33 pm
And Barnes is approaching 36 !!
And Flemming is not a natural No 9
And Foster is ?
And Obafemi is still with us

Desperate times may need desperate measures. :?
I agree with you, we definitely need a striker. Not sure an injury prone 34 year old who didn’t score a single goal last season is the answer.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by KRBFC » Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:22 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:36 pm
Those 18 games in total equalled less minutes than 4 games in total.

He isn't the answer for us even as a back up option though.
A fair comment.

I’d have Vardy over Wilson all day long, just based on how they both performed last season.

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