Chelsea forum.

[Terrier]

Not putting this on the transfer thread for reasons given on that thread but they have been discussing Broja.
Very mixed, most can't believe they may get up to 20 million for him saying that since his injury he has been poor but on the other hand some saying if he passes his medical it could turn out a good buy for us.
Time will tell as they say.

[Casper2]

Are we a club that should be gambling with 20 million

[NewClaret]

The Maatsen fee Chelsea accepted on deadline day was reported by Sky as £32m. Matt Williams later denied it was anywhere near that figure.

My guess is that Chelsea or agents inflate the fee leaked to the press to make them look good (selling any fringe player on the cheap probably only devalues other fringe players they’re looking to ship) or they are open to doing heavily performance-based deals. I can’t see that we’ve guaranteed them £20m.

The not looking the same player post-injury comments are a tad worrying. Hopefully Parker can bring the best out in him.

[NewClaret]

Are we a club that should be gambling with 20 million

We won’t have done.

[Claretnick]

A few days ago when this possible signing broke the mentioned fee was £10m + add ons, why has it suddenly doubled in a few days?

[Jakubclaret]

A few days ago when this possible signing broke the mentioned fee was £10m + add ons, why has it suddenly doubled in a few days?

Depending where you looked it was ballpark £20m from the off it didn't double for some strange reason some of us halfed it on here probably to convince themselves we were getting some sort of a bargain.

[Quickenthetempo]

A few days ago when this possible signing broke the mentioned fee was £10m + add ons, why has it suddenly doubled in a few days?

It creates headlines and clicks

[NewClaret]

A few days ago when this possible signing broke the mentioned fee was £10m + add ons, why has it suddenly doubled in a few days?

No idea. Nobody credible has given any indication of fee. We don’t know what it is.

[Bow]

You don’t really hear about many player failing medicals do you. It makes you wonder how stringent they really are.

[NewClaret]

You don’t really hear about many player failing medicals do you. It makes you wonder how stringent they really are.

You’d expect few players are ever sold if they’re not fit to pass a medical, but on the rare occasion it does happen no club or player publicise it for obvious reasons.

If it’s true Cajuste travelled here then it wouldn’t surprise me if he’d failed his medical.

[Jakubclaret]

No idea. Nobody credible has given any indication of fee. We don’t know what it is.

It's broadly believed it's up to £20m without being 100% nowhere near £10m unless you are including the add ons at 50% of the flat transfer fee which would be steep.

[ClaretPete001]

I've been through 3 pages of Google and all say £20 million. If anyone can cite the £10 million source it would be useful.

Personally don't believe we are going to pay £20 million but who knows.

[clive40golf]

You don’t really hear about many player failing medicals do you. It makes you wonder how stringent they really are.

There’s a poster on this board whose son carries out the medical ( or used to) and it’s very stringent apparently.

[Jakubclaret]

You’d expect few players are ever sold if they’re not fit to pass a medical, but on the rare occasion it does happen no club or player publicise it for obvious reasons.

If it’s true Cajuste travelled here then it wouldn’t surprise me if he’d failed his medical.

Think of it like an MOT at that point when it passes it's safe to drive it doesn't guarantee that the next day or there after. It's at the point there & then it's good.

[CharlieinNewMexico]

Hmmmm

Has Broja ever failed a medical?

Yes, Armando Broja has failed a medical. His proposed loan move to Ipswich Town collapsed because he did not pass their medical examination due to an issue detected during the scans. Despite this, Everton signed him on loan from Chelsea, taking a calculated risk, as Everton’s medical criteria and financial position allowed them to accommodate Broja while he recovers, whereas Ipswich were more cautious given their status and resources

[Vegas Claret]

we don't pay those type of prices, no way we've handed Chelsea 20 million without it being massively incentivised

[BurnleyFC]

At £10m it’s a no-brainer of a signing but at £20m it’s more than a gamble.

[Jakubclaret]

we don't pay those type of prices, no way we've handed Chelsea 20 million without it being massively incentivised

High stakes!

[claretburns]

You don’t really hear about many player failing medicals do you. It makes you wonder how stringent they really are.

Didn't Charlie Austin fail one at Hull back when he was with us and Steve Bruce released the info to the press and the reason for the failure and therefore we received a lower than expected offer from QPR when we sold him?

[Ashingtonclaret46]

Didn't Charlie Austin fail one at Hull back when he was with us and Steve Bruce released the info to the press and the reason for the failure and therefore we received a lower than expected offer from QPR when we sold him?

Yes but Charlie thought that it was high.

[Steddyman]

Are we a club that should be gambling with 20 million

If we don't sign any striker, we are gambling £120m.

[Inchy]

No one has a clue here and everyone is guessing.

Either playing it cool

Or getting worked up


No one knows

[warksclaret]

It’s not a gamble -if he costs £20 m it means he has played a lot of games/ we have avoided relegation/he has scored a number of goals etc etc

[Jakubclaret]

It’s not a gamble -if he costs £20 m it means he has played a lot of games/ we have avoided relegation/he has scored a number of goals etc etc

I agree if the specifics of the add ons stipulate that & it's achieved it's a no brainer & you would expect them conditions to be inserted. It still represents a gamble on the upfront though because at this juncture it cannot be determined if he's going to be a success. Every signing I guess you don't know there's varying elements of risk with them all.

[IanMcL]

A few days ago when this possible signing broke the mentioned fee was £10m + add ons, why has it suddenly doubled in a few days?

Sounds better for a Chelsea player, in the news!

[Colburn_Claret]

The fee is anybodys guess, as usual it will be undisclosed.
There are 2 Brojas, the one when fit, and the one when not.
Hopefully any fee will be weighted depending on appearances and fitness and staying up. If he can prove all 3, 20 mill would be a bargain.

[mdd2]

Didn't Charlie Austin fail one at Hull back when he was with us and Steve Bruce released the info to the press and the reason for the failure and therefore we received a lower than expected offer from QPR when we sold him?

Austin's problems when with us were his dislocated shoulders but the news from Hull was that his knees were the problem but as far as I remember he never had a knee problem in his career.
There were some funny goings on when he was at Swindon and maybe that was the reason he had the knee problem at Hull.
I wish we could sign another Charlie Austin, or Danny Ings, Sam Vokes.

[Herts Clarets]

Who was it that passed Joe Gallagher's medical? Doc Iven?

[exilecanada]

Who was it that passed Joe Gallagher's medical? Doc Iven?

I remember Dr. Iven, he was our family doctor. Wasn’t his practice on Todmorden Road, not far from Tod Rd Primary School?

[ecc]

There’s a poster on this board whose son carries out the medical ( or used to) and it’s very stringent apparently.

I really can't imagine it being otherwise. The sums involved in buying footballers is huge.

[claret wizard]

I wouldn’t trust any football forum to get an accurate view on a player or their valuation………….

[willsclarets]

I wouldn’t trust any football forum to get an accurate view on a player or their valuation………….

Quite. Ask this forum how much Koleosho is worth at the end of our last Premier league campaign, probably about £50-60 million. Now he's next to useless.

[longsidetrumpet]

I remember Dr. Iven, he was our family doctor. Wasn’t his practice on Todmorden Road, not far from Tod Rd Primary School?

When I first saw Doc Iven as a kid he practised out of a terraced row on Brunshaw Road (‘Kelly’s Row’) at Pike Hill, before moving to the upstairs room of a cottage where the Pike Hill Spar is now. Downstairs was the branch library. Then he moved to the purpose built surgery on Finsley Gate

[DingleDangle]

When I first saw Doc Iven as a kid he practised out of a terraced row on Brunshaw Road (‘Kelly’s Row’) at Pike Hill, before moving to the upstairs room of a cottage where the Pike Hill Spar is now. Downstairs was the branch library. Then he moved to the purpose built surgery on Finsley Gate

Yes, it was the St. Nicholas Health Centre at Finsley Gate (now known as Parkside Surgery at what used to be Prestige). Dr. Iven was just one of the doctors I saw there, along with the likes of Dr. Brew, Dr. Corkhill etc.

[Claretforever]

Broja’s injury history.

[exilecanada]

When I first saw Doc Iven as a kid he practised out of a terraced row on Brunshaw Road (‘Kelly’s Row’) at Pike Hill, before moving to the upstairs room of a cottage where the Pike Hill Spar is now. Downstairs was the branch library. Then he moved to the purpose built surgery on Finsley Gate

Thanks for that information, It’s over 50 years since I left Burnley, maybe I’m getting my memories mixed up. I most certainly remember the name Dr Iven, a buzzer would sound when it was your turn to see him. We lived on Brunshaw Rd just up the road from Pike Hill and I did go to Tod Rd Primary School, then on to Towneley Tech. I’ll talk to my sister, she still lives in England but not Burnley, having not left the country permanently maybe her memory is more clear.

[Bfc]

exilecanada, 1st point re Tod Rd surgery, that practise was that of husband and wife Doctors Griffiths. Doctor Ivan lived just above your house, on Brunshaw Rd, at the stone detached property on the same side.

[Guller Bull]

Where was Dr Ivan before that? I saw him a couple of times when I was a young lad and we lived just off Coal Clough Lane next to Scott Park.
I'm sure I saw him once when I got bricked in the dark by a young lady who live up the back st. Fun times, I was probably about 8 or 9. Had a bruise the size of an egg on my forehead.

[exilecanada]

exilecanada, 1st point re Tod Rd surgery, that practise was that of husband and wife Doctors Griffiths. Doctor Ivan lived just above your house, on Brunshaw Rd, at the stone detached property on the same side.

Doctors Griffiths, now I remember that name, they must have been our family doctors, not Dr. Iven. Man, I’m losing it Yes, I’m aware Dr. Iven lived not far from us at Lodge House, it’s currently up for sale, can be yours if you have 461,000 quid hanging around Google is my friend You’re excellent at local knowledge and history, I guess that’s an advantage of still living in the area.

[It Is What It Is]

Too injury prone for me.
Would be a great signing if he stays match fit but I don't think any club would gamble more than £14....and it is a gamble.

[vinrogue]

My best mate is a Chelsea season ticket holder both home and away (yes they do an away season ticket). His take on the two potential signings are that they would be a good fit for us. They call the midfielder Les it is easier apparently and he reckons he will make Hannibal look like a saint in comparison.UTC

[bobinho]

Yes, it was the St. Nicholas Health Centre at Finsley Gate (now known as Parkside Surgery at what used to be Prestige). Dr. Iven was just one of the doctors I saw there, along with the likes of Dr. Brew, Dr. Corkhill etc.

Wasn’t St Nicholas’ Health Centre on Saunder Bank? (One street back from Finsley gate?)

Could be mistaken, memory’s not what it was….

[DingleDangle]

Yes, sorry it was Saunder Bank. Still kinda Finsley Gate area of town though.

[longsidetrumpet]

Doctors Griffiths, now I remember that name, they must have been our family doctors, not Dr. Iven. Man, I’m losing it Yes, I’m aware Dr. Iven lived not far from us at Lodge House, it’s currently up for sale, can be yours if you have 461,000 quid hanging around Google is my friend You’re excellent at local knowledge and history, I guess that’s an advantage of still living in the area.

I must have lived near you. I grew up on Ullswater Road, which runs parallel to Brunshaw Rd, but went to Holme School in Cliviger then Burnley Grammar

[Goalkeeper]

My family lived on Padiham Road and Clough Street in the 50s and 60s. If they phoned for a doctor, it was either Dr Iven or Dr Kerr. Surely they weren't based up Pike Hill to serve that area of Burnley?

[Claret Till I Die]

You don’t really hear about many player failing medicals do you. It makes you wonder how stringent they really are.

Maybe some fail a medical but it's not made common knowledge...

[exilecanada]

I must have lived near you. I grew up on Ullswater Road, which runs parallel to Brunshaw Rd, but went to Holme School in Cliviger then Burnley Grammar

I had a pal on either Ullswater Rd or Buttermere Rd, I forget which one. Name was Ray, used nickname ‘Butch’, no idea why Myself and my pal Arthur Fergus would go to Ray’s house and listen to Radio Caroline and Radio Luxemburg. Thirlmere Rd, the access road, was pretty well opposite our house on Brunshaw Rd.

[Dazzler]

I got bricked in the dark by a young lady who live up the back st. Fun times, I was probably about 8 or 9. Had a bruise the size of an egg on my forehead.

I'm probably a long way off the mark, but one name immediately sprang to mind when reading that - Fiona Duffy (?)

[Guller Bull]

I'm probably a long way off the mark, but one name immediately sprang to mind when reading that - Fiona Duffy (?)

Nope, but it was the sister of one of our “ bad boy posse” from the 80’s

To be honest I think we were only about 10 and it came out of the dark down the back street from where they lived. Seems like a fun game lobbing half bricks in the dark till you actually get clocked with one

[longsidetrumpet]

I had a pal on either Ullswater Rd or Buttermere Rd, I forget which one. Name was Ray, used nickname ‘Butch’, no idea why Myself and my pal Arthur Fergus would go to Ray’s house and listen to Radio Caroline and Radio Luxemburg. Thirlmere Rd, the access road, was pretty well opposite our house on Brunshaw Rd.

I think Butch could have been Raymond Ashley, lived on Thirlmere. I knew Arthur (‘Ferg’, RIP) very well. Back in the 60s used to join in our kickabouts on land at the top of the smallholdings (ironically behind Doc Iven’s house). I got to know him better because we had a shared interest in American music, particularly soul music. He built up a massive collection. I continued to bump into him until not long before his death