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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 05, 2025 3:31 pm

You would imagine we are a Cat C game for Spurs

Last season the blocks either side of the away end for adults was Block 113 - £48 & Block 119 - £81 for Cat C games, Cat A games were £81 and £109.

How many do you reckon we would see for an away game at those prices

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 05, 2025 3:32 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 3:31 pm
The PL and tv companies constantly spoke about the need for away fans at games yet clubs were charging them the earth; we had to pay £50 for adult tickets at Chelsea in 2015.

The FSA launched their Twenty’s Plenty campaign and that pressure forced them to at least reduce it to £30. There were some clubs charged a bit less for a while but I’m not sure anyone charges less than £30 now for an adult tickets

There really has to be some pressure applied now on concession pricing.
I seem to think we were charged almost £50 at Man Utd too one season

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Aug 05, 2025 3:38 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 3:31 pm
The PL and tv companies constantly spoke about the need for away fans at games yet clubs were charging them the earth; we had to pay £50 for adult tickets at Chelsea in 2015.

The FSA launched their Twenty’s Plenty campaign and that pressure forced them to at least reduce it to £30. There were some clubs charged a bit less for a while but I’m not sure anyone charges less than £30 now for an adult tickets

There really has to be some pressure applied now on concession pricing.
You would imagine the easiest way to legislate it would be to set a cap of say 50% or 60% of the Adult price. would that then put the 30 quid limit in danger?

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Aug 05, 2025 3:40 pm

equinox wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 3:31 pm
You think away supporters in the Premier League need encouragement?

It's a genuine goodwill gesture agreed by all the clubs.
I'd love to be this uncynical

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:17 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 3:32 pm
I seem to think we were charged almost £50 at Man Utd too one season
Certainly close to, £46 in 2014/15.

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:19 pm

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 3:38 pm
You would imagine the easiest way to legislate it would be to set a cap of say 50% or 60% of the Adult price. would that then put the 30 quid limit in danger?
The £30 limit for adults is now set in stone for three years. It's in the PL rules when each tv deal kicks off and has been agreed for this current one. I'm told there is no desire to remove it whatsoever.
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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by Papabendi » Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:21 pm

Its hard to see how premier league prices for away fans could be lower than what they already are for anyone. Already represent excellent value.

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:09 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:21 pm
Its hard to see how premier league prices for away fans could be lower than what they already are for anyone. Already represent excellent value.
Adults yes, without a doubt, but those prices for concessions at Old Trafford are a disgrace.

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by The Shire Claret » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:13 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:21 pm
Its hard to see how premier league prices for away fans could be lower than what they already are for anyone. Already represent excellent value.
£29 for an 8 year old in the spirit of what the agreement was is not excellent Value
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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by equinox » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:14 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:09 pm
Adults yes, without a doubt, but those prices for concessions at Old Trafford are a disgrace.
Don't go then, nobody is holding a gun to your head.

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:16 pm

equinox wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:14 pm
Don't go then, nobody is holding a gun to your head.
What a stupid response

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by equinox » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:20 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:16 pm
What a stupid response
If I thought something was a 'disgrace' I would avoid it.

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by The Shire Claret » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:25 pm

equinox wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:20 pm
If I thought something was a 'disgrace' I would avoid it.
I'm going to Spurs and United and will pay £11 more for a ticket at united for my lad

I can say that's a disgrace, voice my opinion and still go...

The reason why prices are not even higher is because prices are challenged and not just accepted.

That should never change

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by Papabendi » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:29 pm

Do concessions apply in other realms of live entertainment?
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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by equinox » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:29 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:25 pm
I'm going to Spurs and United and will pay £11 more for a ticket at united for my lad

I can say that's a disgrace, voice my opinion and still go...

The reason why prices are not even higher is because prices are challenged and not just accepted.

That should never change
Watch them reduce if nobody bought them, you can't whine about it but still attend!

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by The Shire Claret » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:31 pm

equinox wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:29 pm
Watch them reduce if nobody bought them, you can't whine about it but still attend!
No you can

And it happened ... £20 is plenty got us to where we are now...

Not because of empty away ends

Concessions Creeping up should be addressed

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by The Shire Claret » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:32 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:29 pm
Do concessions apply in other realms of live entertainment?
Absolutely

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by Papabendi » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:35 pm

Well I'm just on a popular music ticketing site and am seeing one flat price per ticket. Scanning the site, the ticket prices are on average double the price for an away ticket in the prem this season.

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by The Shire Claret » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:36 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:35 pm
Well I'm just on a popular music ticketing site and am seeing one flat price per ticket. Scanning the site, the ticket prices are on average double the price for an away ticket in the prem this season.
Well maybe look at other sports... or cinema tickets of theater tickets, bowling ... I could go on

All have concession prices

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by equinox » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:37 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:31 pm
No you can

And it happened ... £20 is plenty got us to where we are now...

Not because of empty away ends

Concessions Creeping up should be addressed
...and you still don't like it.

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by Papabendi » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:38 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:36 pm
Well maybe look at other sports... or cinema tickets of theater tickets, bowling ... I could go on

All have concession prices
Most of those are not live experiences

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by The Shire Claret » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:39 pm

equinox wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:37 pm
...and you still don't like it.
No, I don't like it

I don't like having the Sh**s after a Chinese but I still order Salt and Pepper Chicken wings and Crispy Shredded Beef with Egg Fried Rice
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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by The Shire Claret » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:40 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:38 pm
Most of those are not live experiences
Are you kidding ?

Other Sports are not live experiences ?

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by Papabendi » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:48 pm

Nope not kidding. They aren't uniform is the point

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by equinox » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:49 pm

'Get your hand in your pocket Mr Chairman'

...but when it comes to actually paying for something yourself, people don't like it.
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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by Elizabeth » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:52 pm

equinox wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:14 pm
Don't go then, nobody is holding a gun to your head.
While I think that's a little strong due to the sensitive nature of some to the pegging back of concessions , I do hope this topic is way down on the list of things the BFC ISA take to the club. Only because there are more important issues , and I think it's an easy one for the club to defend.
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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by Papabendi » Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:57 pm

Its going to be more expensive to watch AFC Wimbledon in League 1 at home for a decent seat in a decent stand than it is to watch Premier League football this season.

Its hard to know what people want. But it seems right now they have the best of both worlds

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by equinox » Tue Aug 05, 2025 6:04 pm

Over 65's are fighting a losing battle, I presume they know that they aren't the target audience?

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by Papabendi » Tue Aug 05, 2025 6:14 pm

I think its less about that, more that they tend to have, overall, the most disposable income

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by Papabendi » Tue Aug 05, 2025 6:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:09 pm
Adults yes, without a doubt, but those prices for concessions at Old Trafford are a disgrace.
Yet you were charged more ten years ago and I assumed you paid it? What has inflation been running at over that period?

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by Mrpotatohead » Tue Aug 05, 2025 6:37 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:09 pm
Adults yes, without a doubt, but those prices for concessions at Old Trafford are a disgrace.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't understand the furore with concession pricing. Less than £30 for a football match is reasonable value in my opinion, and I'm not sure discounted pricing should be offered based on age.

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by Targetman » Tue Aug 05, 2025 10:53 pm

Mrpotatohead wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 6:37 pm
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't understand the furore with concession pricing. Less than £30 for a football match is reasonable value in my opinion, and I'm not sure discounted pricing should be offered based on age.
Maybe you will be when you start drawing your state pension? :lol:

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Aug 06, 2025 7:56 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:17 pm
Certainly close to, £46 in 2014/15.
Thought I remembered paying something like that, wow and that was 11 year ago. You can imagine what it would be now without the cap.

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by The Shire Claret » Wed Aug 06, 2025 9:59 am

Papabendi wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:57 pm
Its going to be more expensive to watch AFC Wimbledon in League 1 at home for a decent seat in a decent stand than it is to watch Premier League football this season.

Its hard to know what people want. But it seems right now they have the best of both worlds
but that's the crux of the issue and a much bigger problem

Because the lower leagues can't compete they have to charge more as they don't have the TV money and to get good players they have to pay wages they can't afford.

If the trend continues we will have a lot more Morcambe / Bury / Rochdale etc... where club owners are having to dig into their own pockets just to pay the debt or go bust...

Wage caps are needed to get a hold of players and agents taking all the money out of the game and if the PL players were paid half of what they get now they would still be millionaires.

It should never be more to go and watch lower league but that shows what a mess it's all becoming

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by Papabendi » Wed Aug 06, 2025 10:41 am

The other way of looking at it is, Prem tickets are a relative bargain compared to football in general and other forms of entertainment in general (that do not always come with concessions) and the disruption that TV brings from a scheduling point of view is a by product and needs to be accepted if people want cheap tickets.

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by equinox » Wed Aug 06, 2025 1:37 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 06, 2025 9:59 am
but that's the crux of the issue and a much bigger problem

Because the lower leagues can't compete they have to charge more as they don't have the TV money and to get good players they have to pay wages they can't afford.

If the trend continues we will have a lot more Morcambe / Bury / Rochdale etc... where club owners are having to dig into their own pockets just to pay the debt or go bust...

Wage caps are needed to get a hold of players and agents taking all the money out of the game and if the PL players were paid half of what they get now they would still be millionaires.

It should never be more to go and watch lower league but that shows what a mess it's all becoming
The Premier League is an unprecedented success story, the envy of the Footballing World and you want to ruin it by introducing a salary cap?

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by The Shire Claret » Wed Aug 06, 2025 1:49 pm

equinox wrote:
Wed Aug 06, 2025 1:37 pm
The Premier League is an unprecedented success story, the envy of the Footballing World and you want to ruin it by introducing a salary cap?
In your opinion it will ruin it - and your have made an assumption on my point .... I think there should be an international salary cap to make it work, not just England and should be relative to the fiancial income of every league etc...

The PL is exactly what you say it is, including he most innovative with ideas etc...

You might not agree with my point but what is happening in the lower leagues will creep upwards and it will all become unsustainable at some point unless something is done...

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by Foulthrow » Wed Aug 06, 2025 2:55 pm

Does VAT apply to football tickets? And, if so, are children’s tickets exempt from VAT like children’s clothes? Does that then mean that a child’s ticket could actually be more expensive than an adult one like the kits are in the club shop?

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by Leisure » Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:08 pm

Foulthrow wrote:
Wed Aug 06, 2025 2:55 pm
Does VAT apply to football tickets? And, if so, are children’s tickets exempt from VAT like children’s clothes? Does that then mean that a child’s ticket could actually be more expensive than an adult one like the kits are in the club shop?
Yes it does and I can't find any exemption for a child's ticket.

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by equinox » Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:54 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 06, 2025 1:49 pm
In your opinion it will ruin it - and your have made an assumption on my point .... I think there should be an international salary cap to make it work, not just England and should be relative to the fiancial income of every league etc...

The PL is exactly what you say it is, including he most innovative with ideas etc...

You might not agree with my point but what is happening in the lower leagues will creep upwards and it will all become unsustainable at some point unless something is done...
How on earth would you Police an International salary cap? And that's before you start with legalities of it.

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Re: Away fan ticket prices

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:59 pm

Foulthrow wrote:
Wed Aug 06, 2025 2:55 pm
Does VAT apply to football tickets? And, if so, are children’s tickets exempt from VAT like children’s clothes? Does that then mean that a child’s ticket could actually be more expensive than an adult one like the kits are in the club shop?
I don't think kids tickets are exempt but their clothes are which means we charge the same for kids replica shirts as we do for adults, and more for socks and shorts.

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