THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread

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THE SUPER CLARETS vs The Black Cats ~ Match Thread

Post by whiffa » Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:45 pm

First home game of the season, let's back the lads!

Madge is here for old time's sake - teams news incoming!
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:47 pm

I like the line up
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Post by morninbob » Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:47 pm

433, JBL for sonne, Les for laurant.

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Post by whiffa » Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:48 pm

Our opponents today:

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Post by burnleymik » Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:48 pm

Back to what we did well in the Championship. Very happy with that. Come On!

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Post by daveisaclaret » Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:49 pm

Proper 11 that, well done Mr Parker. Big win today

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Post by ecc » Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:50 pm

SP showing flexibility.

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Post by CoolClaret » Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:51 pm

-------Dubravka
Walker-Ekdal-Esteve-Hartman
-----Lesley-Cullen
JBL--Hannibal-Anthony
--------Foster

I think?

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Post by ksrclaret » Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:54 pm

No complaints with that team. Whether it’s enough is a different matter but hoping for a win.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:54 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:51 pm
-------Dubravka
Walker-Ekdal-Esteve-Hartman
-----Lesley-Cullen
JBL--Hannibal-Anthony
--------Foster

I think?
Physically that midfield should give Sunderland some real problems

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Post by ecc » Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:55 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:51 pm
-------Dubravka
Walker-Ekdal-Esteve-Hartman
-----Lesley-Cullen
JBL--Hannibal-Anthony
--------Foster

I think?
Something like that.

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Post by Jmw » Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:58 pm

I think it will be 5 at the back still with JBL as RBW. Hope not but I think that’s the way he will go

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Post by Goliath » Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:58 pm

Have we lost a league game with Edwards in the team?
I don't think we have but he's somehow found his way out of favour. Seems a bit odd.

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Post by burnleymik » Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:59 pm

....or I suppose he could have just swapped JBL for Sonne and we still play the 5-back?

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:00 pm

Tough game. Sunderland have spent a lot and spent really well. Glad we’ve matched their midfield with legs and physicality. That 11 is what i was hoping for except Tuanzebe for Ekdal, hopefully the latter has a good game.

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Post by FCBurnley » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:02 pm

Jmw wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:58 pm
I think it will be 5 at the back still with JBL as RBW. Hope not but I think that’s the way he will go
We should never play 5 at the back at home and I don’t think we will today

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Post by willsclarets » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:04 pm

Goliath wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:58 pm
Have we lost a league game with Edwards in the team?
I don't think we have but he's somehow found his way out of favour. Seems a bit odd.
One thing about Anthony is that he's unbelievably disciplined off the ball. Just speculation, but especially if we're 3 at the back he's just not defensively minded enough to play that wingback role. Even in a 4, Anthony would cover for Hartman and you'd be fine. Edwards on the other side? Not sure. It is a shame because he's a great watch and could score some important goals, but we know Parker is safety first and perhaps while we settle into the league he's just wanting him as an impact player

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:04 pm

People get a bit caught up with formations, and there seems to be a misconception ‘5 at the back’ is defensive. Last week we delivered one of the most attacking performances I’ve seen at a big club with ‘5 at the back’. Palace just won the FA Cup with ‘5 at the back’ every week. Very nice attacking team. Weird one.

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Post by Procrastinate B » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:09 pm

Much better.

Still think we’ll go five at the back, but much better.

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Post by burnleymik » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:09 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:04 pm
People get a bit caught up with formations, and there seems to be a misconception ‘5 at the back’ is defensive. Last week we delivered one of the most attacking performances I’ve seen at a big club with ‘5 at the back’. Palace just won the FA Cup with ‘5 at the back’ every week. Very nice attacking team. Weird one.
For me personally, I think it's about how uncomfortable our best defenders look in the 3. Esteve and Walker seemed to struggle and I think it exposes Ekhdal too. It's not about being defensive, it's about playing players in their strongest positions to get the best out of them.

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Post by Goliath » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:09 pm

willsclarets wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:04 pm
One thing about Anthony is that he's unbelievably disciplined off the ball. Just speculation, but especially if we're 3 at the back he's just not defensively minded enough to play that wingback role. Even in a 4, Anthony would cover for Hartman and you'd be fine. Edwards on the other side? Not sure. It is a shame because he's a great watch and could score some important goals, but we know Parker is safety first and perhaps while we settle into the league he's just wanting him as an impact player
Agreed but we've been a better side with Edwards in it so I'm surprised Parker hasn't at least given him an opportunity before JBL

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Post by ecc » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:10 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:04 pm
People get a bit caught up with formations, and there seems to be a misconception ‘5 at the back’ is defensive. Last week we delivered one of the most attacking performances I’ve seen at a big club with ‘5 at the back’. Palace just won the FA Cup with ‘5 at the back’ every week. Very nice attacking team. Weird one.
Fully agree with you, RVclaret. If the players are good enough it enables you to quickly switch from defence to attack and vice versa.

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Post by GetIntoEm » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:19 pm

Anyone tried the mash peas and gravy yet? Pie and peas is back!

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Post by Roosterbooster » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:19 pm

Jmw wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:58 pm
I think it will be 5 at the back still with JBL as RBW. Hope not but I think that’s the way he will go
He played there against Lazio. Also Josh Laurent ended up as a RCB against Lazio. So it looks like the "5 at the back" thing is a full time goer

But as people say, I don't think it's a rigid 5. Walker can play RCB or RB or RWB. Hartman can play LB or LWB. Anthony can drop into a LWB position if needs be. And Hannibal can play as AM, inside right or drop into a midfield 3

It'll be a versatile set up depending on the phase of the game
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Post by CoolClaret » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:23 pm

Whatever it is, I like that XI... a lot!

UTC!

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Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:30 pm

The £5 pie was not quite 1 cm deep

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Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:32 pm

Afternoon All.
No conceding penalties to them & three points please!
Good to see Madge back.
COME ON UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU CLARETS!!
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Post by KateR » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:33 pm

4 at the back for me, more attacking intent, will see these changes throughout, depending on who we are playing and SP thoughts on attack or defense as the tactic of the day. Obviously more attacking today, which Sunderland will like as they will be a counterattacking team for most of the season, as they believe they can break quickly and have the attackers to score, which proved the case against WH, let's see how today plays out.

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Post by jojomk1 » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:36 pm

No Broja even on the bench

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Post by jojomk1 » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:38 pm

Goliath wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:58 pm
Have we lost a league game with Edwards in the team?
I don't think we have but he's somehow found his way out of favour. Seems a bit odd.
Edwards is a luxury at this level
JBL will offer more to the team in overall work rate and still has goals in him

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Post by manuelbenny » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:42 pm

Surprised Ekdal is in again....

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Post by ecc » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:44 pm

manuelbenny wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:42 pm
Surprised Ekdal is in again....
I'm not sure we have too many other options.

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Post by willsclarets » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:45 pm

I may or may not have said this before but, Foster to bag today!

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Post by Tribesmen » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:48 pm

Afternoon all , just checking in here in Santorini , about 29c and the sun is out .
All set for kick off .

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Post by Frenchclaret » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:51 pm

I couldn’t receive Clarets+ last week but this week I have just opened it and didn’t have to pay! Have conditions changed?

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Post by mkmel » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:52 pm

KateR wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:33 pm
4 at the back for me, more attacking intent, will see these changes throughout, depending on who we are playing and SP thoughts on attack or defense as the tactic of the day. Obviously more attacking today, which Sunderland will like as they will be a counterattacking team for most of the season, as they believe they can break quickly and have the attackers to score, which proved the case against WH, let's see how today plays out.
They can't be that good in attack as they only managed to score 3 against West Ham

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Post by Goliath » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:52 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:38 pm
Edwards is a luxury at this level
JBL will offer more to the team in overall work rate and still has goals in him
We haven't tried him. Bit harsh to come to a conclusion without even giving him the chance

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Post by derryclaret » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:56 pm

Afternoon all, threatening rain here first we've seen in a couple of weeks, big game need a win to set us on our way. COYC!

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Post by jojomk1 » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:59 pm

Goliath wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:52 pm
We haven't tried him. Bit harsh to come to a conclusion without even giving him the chance
We saw in the Championship that he's short of pace and rarely tracks back and that is a minimum for this league
Would appear SP is not so keen on him starting

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Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:59 pm

At last a banger of a tune to walk out to 🔥

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Post by Longsider » Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:01 pm

Come on yooooooooooou Clarets

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Post by morninbob » Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:02 pm

Back 5 JBL on the right.

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Post by whiffa » Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:02 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:59 pm
At last a banger of a tune to walk out to 🔥
Ecstasy of Gold by Ennio Morricone? Great song. Also looks like maybe new soundsystem in at the Turf at last? :lol:

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Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:04 pm

Nice tribute to Willie Irvine.

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Post by JR1882 » Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:05 pm

Wolves 1 down.

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Post by jojomk1 » Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:06 pm

What a calamity at the back there

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Post by willsclarets » Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:06 pm

ooft should be 1 down there

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Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:06 pm

Good save Dub.

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Post by Venkys4eva » Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:07 pm

The sky commentary team are all w****kers listening to them all Sunderland had to do is turn up.

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