Joint Supplements

[Steve1956]

Since my age trundled over to 68 earlier, this month I've noticed a lot more pain in my joints and getting in and out of the car has become painful,I'm thinking of giving joint supplements a crack,I know we have a lot of old blokes on here who might be able to help with their experience of pain and supplements any recommendations?
At the moment I'm swithering towards.....
Bettervits
Glucosamine complex with MSM & Tumeric
Any advice would be greatly appreciated

[aclaretinstevenage]

None of them made any difference to me. I Took Glucosamine + other bits for a year to give it a fair chance. No noticeable effect whatsoever.

Might be different for others so just my experience.

[gingerpele]

Hemp capsules

[Holmeclaret]

I’m told that collagen helps.I can’t take it myself because I have gout.

[bfcjg]

https://www.arthritis.org/health-wellne ... -arthritis
Bit of information here.
I take glucosamine and tumeric with black pepper, as research seems to show they slow down cartilage degradation .

[AGENT_CLARET]

https://www.yrhealth.online/products/yh ... 3de8&_ss=r

[BleedingClaret]

Since my age trundled over to 68 earlier, this month I've noticed a lot more pain in my joints and getting in and out of the car has become painful,I'm thinking of giving joint supplements a crack,I know we have a lot of old blokes on here who might be able to help with their experience of pain and supplements any recommendations?
At the moment I'm swithering towards.....
Bettervits
Glucosamine complex with MSM & Tumeric
Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Look at British Supplements
Glucosamine
Chrondritin
Turmeric
Collagen
Dearer but work imo

[CoolClaret]

Supplements can help mate but imperative that your diet is spot on as well.

Lots of food that we eat (processed, high in omega 6s/hydrogenated fats/sugar) is super inflammatory and can exacerbate joint pain; good diet + a good mobility routine and preferably some sort of resistance training and then they can certainly be beneficial.

Fish oil + turmeric is as good as anything really.

[boatshed bill]

I've been taking them for years.
Don't know how much good they are but I'm almost scared to stop in case they are working, even if not particularly well.
Exercise is still the best thing to counter the effects of ageing, IMO.

[dougcollins]

Glucosamine, for me, was a gradual build thing. The first 6 months or so I was going to sack it.

I've now been taking it for 30 years and I believe it has saved me from a whole load of grief (including being able to make a living playing the guitar).

Osteo arthritis.

[Tricky Trevor]

I was on a pre-retirement course where they recommended everybody present took Glucosamine. I was only 50 and fit for my age. I gave them a go but soon ditched them as I came out in spots. This was a good while back so I’d hope they have improved them.

[dougcollins]

As somebody mentioned earlier in the thread, always buy good quality supplements.

[Carport]

https://www.arthritis.org/health-wellne ... -arthritis

Has anyone benefitted from drinking extra virgin olive oil daily?

[Rowls]

For those of you who aren't yet too old, who aren't suffering joint pain or if you're still young(ish) and starting to feel twinges in knees and other joints here is what I've started in order to try and stave off joint problems later in life:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7B9p8AwSEw

It comes with warnings and plenty of "do nots" but the science and theory behind it appeals to me and I'm hoping there will be benefits in the future.

[TheFamilyCat]

Don't get in and out of the car so often.

[Quickenthetempo]

Is Cod liver oil not a thing any more?

That used to be the go to.

[dougcollins]

For those of you who aren't yet too old, who aren't suffering joint pain or if you're still young(ish) and starting to feel twinges in knees and other joints here is what I've started in order to try and stave off joint problems later in life:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7B9p8AwSEw

It comes with warnings and plenty of "do nots" but the science and theory behind it appeals to me and I'm hoping there will be benefits in the future.

Historically I've suffered terribly with Plantar, but some shoe inserts suggested by GP changed it literally overnight. I have them in all my footwear now.

[joey13]

I find FlexiSEQ gel works for me

[bfcjg]

I find FlexiSEQ gel works for me

I've tried it but it's just to expensive for long term use.

[brexit]

https://www.grasscity.co.uk/bongs

[Bullabill]

https://www.arthritis.org/health-wellne ... -arthritis

Has anyone benefitted from drinking extra virgin olive oil daily?

Yes, the extra virgin olive oil sellers.

[Taffy on the wing]

As somebody mentioned earlier in the thread, always buy good quality supplements.

Most supplements are actually useless, even though they say.. e.g. (400% of recommended dose per day) etc, the body doesn't recognize them as such...they can't be metabolized & the liver is left with the job of removing them, there's zero benefit. It's a hugely profitable industry & they can basically claim anything they want........most of it is snake oil.

[CharlieinNewMexico]

A very low dose of THC (legal in my state) does wonders for my arthritis pain.

[CaptJohn]

I'm 70 now and have taken a Glucosamine + Omega 3 supplement for donkeys years and so far so good. But I also go to the gym three times a week and do classes involving a lot of stretching and leg exercises such as lunging and squats. It's working because at this time of year I can play golf at least three times a week without the dreaded aches and pains. Fingers crossed it stays that way.

[Clovius Boofus]

Most supplements are actually useless, even though they say.. e.g. (400% of recommended dose per day) etc, the body doesn't recognize them as such...they can't be metabolized & the liver is left with the job of removing them, there's zero benefit. It's a hugely profitable industry & they can basically claim anything they want........most of it is snake oil.

A lot of it is woo/placebo. Billions spent by the worried-well.

[Volvoclaret]

A few glasses of red wine taken daily seems to ease my joint pain cheers

[Clovius Boofus]

By the way, around four years ago, I began taking the recommended daily amount of vitamin D. Around 18 months later, I started getting spots and rashes flaring up on my face. I put this down to all sorts of things, like washing powder, soap, sunscreen, shaving foam, hand gel and certain foodstuffs. Spent a bit of money switching to different brands and on cleansing lotions etc in an attempt to eliminate what was causing it, but to no avail. Then I stopped taking vitamin D and the spots and rashes stopped too.

I have no idea why I didn't think of this in the first place. Maybe because I had been taking the supplement for a year and a half without any issues. Funny thing is that I didn't require it in the first place. I'd read articles online about victim D deficiency and the benefits of taking a daily supplement, however, I get enough daylight in the spring and summer months and also have a good diet, so I didn't really need it in the first place.

[warksclaret]

Last year I started to get real pains in my knee and got them x-rayed to be told it was the inevitable arthritis. It was so bad I could barely sleep at night despite being very active at the age of 73. I started taking a heavy dose of Glucosamine & Chrondroitin but did not see the improvement. For the past 6 months however I have taken an 1800mg of magnesium compounds daily and the improvement is remarkable. It has to be the Glycinate 3-in-1 made up of Magnesium Glycinate, Malate & Citrate. Google it to see the benefits.Magnesium is also very god for your muscles and nervous system and has cured my restless leg syndrone as I was about to fall asleep

[elwaclaret]

Last year I started to get real pains in my knee and got them x-rayed to be told it was the inevitable arthritis. It was so bad I could barely sleep at night despite being very active at the age of 73. I started taking a heavy dose of Glucosamine & Chrondroitin but did not see the improvement. For the past 6 months however I have taken an 1800mg of magnesium compounds daily and the improvement is remarkable. It has to be the Glycinate 3-in-1 made up of Magnesium Glycinate, Malate & Citrate. Google it to see the benefits.Magnesium is also very god for your muscles and nervous system and has cured my restless leg syndrone as I was about to fall asleep

Magnesium is also recommended for controlling Depression. For joint pain and tendinitis (particularly in the legs and arms/shoulders - legacy of sporting injuries of my youth), I find a good half hour of stretching exercises before bed also helps immensely with tired legs does as much as the supplements I take :- fish oils, iron, vit B6

[bfcjg]

Last year I started to get real pains in my knee and got them x-rayed to be told it was the inevitable arthritis. It was so bad I could barely sleep at night despite being very active at the age of 73. I started taking a heavy dose of Glucosamine & Chrondroitin but did not see the improvement. For the past 6 months however I have taken an 1800mg of magnesium compounds daily and the improvement is remarkable. It has to be the Glycinate 3-in-1 made up of Magnesium Glycinate, Malate & Citrate. Google it to see the benefits.Magnesium is also very god for your muscles and nervous system and has cured my restless leg syndrone as I was about to fall asleep

You've convinced me,I've just ordered some. Are you on commission ?

[AlargeClaret]

A good glucosamine with chondritin & MSM along with a good omega 3 fish oil capsule . Nothing that ever calls itself “ one a day “ is of any use when you’re talking about Glucu/Chond etc either You need at least an active ration 2000mg /400mg/150mg daily , 2-3 “ high strength “ tablets .

You’ll also need a strong fish oil EPA/DHA ratio around 1000mg/400mg ration . About 2/3 capsules . Good added health benefits too with omega 3.

Also a good Cal/Mag/Zinc ( all in one ) is very cheap and an important add in .

Good supplements aren’t cheap but taking low dose cheap stuff is generally useless . The above is of course for wear and rear /oesteo/knees etc NOT rheumatoid

[warksclaret]

You've convinced me,I've just ordered some. Are you on commission ?

Ha ha bfcig. Give them a go and fingers crossed they work for you. As has been said, there's a number of different benefits from taking magnesium.

[FCBurnley]

Don’t know if you are overweight but if you are then a good healthy weight loss diet will help. South Beach diet is easy and healthy

[Steve1956]

Don't get in and out of the car so often.

Sometimes you are really not that funny on this occasion this comment is one of those times.

[Rowls]

Hi Steve1956

I didn't post my honest advice earlier. My honest advice would be that the evidence for supplements is going to be mixed at best. I healthy, varied diet should give your body everything it needs.

The best thing you might be able to do might be a lot trickier than the idea of taking supplements. You're best to seek out proper medical advice but you might want to look into weight loss, working on muscle strength and other postural / muscular-skeletal approaches.

These aren't easy answers but they might potential be a far more effective than anything a supplement might achieve.

[Bilip]

I’m 64 and my knees/hips kicked off last year. Glucosamine with MSM did little after 5 months, so I binned it. What helped: steady omega‑3s, collagen in coffee, and a simple routine of step‑ups, chair squats and calf stretches. On bad days a dab of diclofenac gel before bed takes the edge off, and getting in/out of the car is much easier now.

[Mornto]

I’m 64 and my knees/hips kicked off last year. Glucosamine with MSM did little after 5 months, so I binned it. What helped: steady omega‑3s, collagen in coffee, and a simple routine of step‑ups, chair squats and calf stretches. On bad days a dab of diclofenac gel before bed takes the edge off, and getting in/out of the car is much easier now.

[Mornto]

I’m rubbish at remembering doses, so I track my stack and let an app adjust from my Health data and blood tests. Lately I’ve used https://apps.apple.com/us/app/menalam/id6741103231 to keep morning/afternoon/evening timings tidy.

[boatshed bill]

I’m 64 and my knees/hips kicked off last year. Glucosamine with MSM did little after 5 months, so I binned it. What helped: steady omega‑3s, collagen in coffee, and a simple routine of step‑ups, chair squats and calf stretches. On bad days a dab of diclofenac gel before bed takes the edge off, and getting in/out of the car is much easier now.

i don't think these supplements can be expected put anything right.
Squats and wall-sits for knees, definitely helps.
Not sure about hips, but I believe some stretches can be beneficial.

[Clive 1960]

I take code liver oil capsules which help me , but what works for me might not work for you as they say..

[bpgburn]

I take code liver oil capsules which help me , but what works for me might not work for you as they say..

Save your money on any supplements (with the exception of Vit D3 maybe), spend what you save on a Pilates class. There is a reason why Physiotherapist's use Pilate moves and exercises for people recovering from injuries, arthritis, strains and general joint pains.

I've suffered from lower back pain for a lot of years which has got worse as I got older (due to an old injury as a kid). Last year (muscular) hip pain introduced it self, enough to cause a constant limp. Joined a Pilate's class 6 months ago, go twice a week and now pain (and limp) free for the first time for as long as I can remember.

[dsr]

My Dad had joint pain etc after retirement (probably because he took up bellringing and you need to start younger!). He cured completely it by about a year's diet of nothing but natural foods - nothing processed, or as little as possible. Butter not margarine, no tea or coffee, ordinary meat cooked at home not packaged, fresh vegetables, chips cooked in dripping or lard, or of course any other sort of potato. Home made cakes and biscuits. It worked for him, but obviously aches and pains from different causes or in different people will not necessarily respond the same.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Give WD40 a try

Worked on some old knackered hinges I had, might be the cure for you too

[ElectroClaret]

My Dad had joint pain etc after retirement (probably because he took up bellringing and you need to start younger!). He cured completely it by about a year's diet of nothing but natural foods - nothing processed, or as little as possible. Butter not margarine, no tea or coffee, ordinary meat cooked at home not packaged, fresh vegetables, chips cooked in dripping or lard, or of course any other sort of potato. Home made cakes and biscuits. It worked for him, but obviously aches and pains from different causes or in different people will not necessarily respond the same.

A consultant stressed the need to have a better diet too.
He also said to cut out all obvious sources of sugar, saying that it's fuel for inflammation, which needs to be eliminated as much as possible.
So I did and it's meant much reduced arthritis pain.

I also take a Cod liver oil capsule.

Not saying this would work for everyone, but it's gone a long way to make me more pain-free.

[ISpeds00]

Cod liver
Multi Vitamin
Tumeric Tabs

[Woodleyclaret]

Pepper and turmeric one a day capsules from Home Bargains ..I have arthritis in one knee and occasionally sciatica these seem to work .I also use Tower Health Joint plus gel
Glucosamine,Eucalyptus and Rosemary this is fast action and works well on knees and muscle pains

[LincsWoldsClaret]

Bowens technique - it works - even on dogs, racehorses etc. amazing results

Also eat less meat and more oily fish n veg - you know it makes sense

Wine can also help - well it seems to

[mdd2]

I take turmeric and black pepper on the advice of the surgeon who treated my carpal tunnel after which my wrist joints really ached. Not stopped the turmeric to see if they return but I doubt there was a placebo effect as I took them thinking nothing would happen. For whatever reason my wrist is fine now. That my chronic mild pain in my left foot wasnt helped suggests to me that my wrist would have improved anyway so when the bottle of turmeric is finished i wont renew and see what happens.
Posted for those interested
The scientific evidence for the effectiveness of glucosamine and chondroitin supplements for osteoarthritis (OA) is inconsistent and generally considered weak or clinically irrelevant by many authoritative bodies. While some studies show potential benefits, particularly for individual components, others find little to no difference compared to a placebo, and some experts advise against their use. Potential side effects, such as interactions with blood thinners, and risks for people with shellfish allergies or diabetes mean it's crucial to consult a doctor before taking these supplements.

[gtclaret]

Most supplements are actually useless, even though they say.. e.g. (400% of recommended dose per day) etc, the body doesn't recognize them as such...they can't be metabolized & the liver is left with the job of removing them, there's zero benefit. It's a hugely profitable industry & they can basically claim anything they want........most of it is snake oil.

Spot on.If you want to relieve joint pain,stop creating the internal inflammation causing it.Cut out manufacturered oils from your diet,like sunflower oil,corn oil and margarine.Use butter coconut oils etc.Cutt out simple carbs,learn excercise that will assist with moving

[IanMcL]

Is Cod liver oil not a thing any more?

That used to be the go to.

That would work.

I have a very painful ankle and apply 2 or 3 drops of Lavender pure essential oil on it and massage in. All good.