High feet

[texasbrit]

If defenders are being being penalised for trying to clear their lines with overhead kicks then surely all these scorpion and overhead kicks from strikers are also dangerous and should be penalised accordingly!!

Mee hardly touch koscielny who of course as a highly paid PL permodona that went down like a sack sh1t as if he had a just taken a bullet to his skill.

Everything that is wrong with the PL cheating players and inadequate oifficials

[dsr]

The referee deemed Mee's foul to be a penalty, not an indirect free kick, so dangerous play isn't relevant.

[BabylonClaret]

It's a harsh one in my view because Koscielny is stooping in to head it, Mee catches the ball and Koscielny is't in that position when mee starts to go for the ball as well. But there's definite contact - having said that we've seen worse for us not given.

[Colburn_Claret]

I thought it was a fair challenge , he definitely ducked into the ball and he wasn't stood upright either. That said it's one of those that people will always disagree about, history shows that those 50/50 decisions go against us 90% of the time.
It's the offside that's the kick in the teeth.

[Claret84]

Do indirect free kicks still exist? Direct free kicks are awarded for obstruction these days.

[TVC15]

Very grey area - do you have to connect with someone's head for it to be deemed a foul ? Does it have to be intentional ? Mee clearly did not mean to do this.

Was Ramsey's "Giroud style" attempt not dangerous ? As per above Giroud, Carroll etc all could have easily led to kicking someone in the head.

If a player went in with an awful 2 footed challenge and missed the player the referee would send him off for dangerous play and intent. If a player went to punch someone and missed then surely he would be sent off ?

And btw was a high chalkenge / kick not previously given as an indirect free kick ? Or have I got that wrong / the rules changed ?

An indirect free kick seems a bit fairer as unless we are into deliberate Kung Fu type attack then with most of these types of challenges there is no intent.

[dsr]

If Mee had swung his boot at the ball at ankle level, been a fraction late, and accidentally caught the man on his ankle and he fell over, it would have been a penalty without question. The fact that the contact was at head height doesn't make it any less of a foul. Unfortunately.

[Quickenthetempo]

I have never seen a penalty given for such little contact in my life. (excluding dives)

[CnBtruntru]

I think the point is being missed here, Koscielny was already offside and that should have been a free kick to Burnley, game over, the officials got it wrong for the second game in a row against these over paid prima donnas, what is it going to take for the FA to bring in replays?
Whatever happens, we will be winning Away very shortly.

[Roosterbooster]

Was it offside? Yes
Was it a high foot? Debatable. Koscielny definitely ducked slightly, and Mee didn't overly stretch too high, his foot position was almost natural.
Was it a foul? Yes. Regardless of whether or not it was a high foot, his boot caught Koscienly in the face, and he didn't get the ball. Intent is irrelevant.

Yes it was harsh in the end, but Gray was lucky not to concede a penalty earlier in the game. I think the red card and our penalty were the correct decisions, but could have easily been given differently given the quality of refereeing we have seen.

All in all it's a positive result. WHU, Spurs, City and Arsenal, all away from home, and lost by only 1 goal in each. Take the same attitude into our next 4 away games and I think we will have forgotten all about it.

[jlup1980]

It was a foul but it was offside. Nothing else needs to be debated.

The fact Koscienly managed to get the wrong side of Mee is simply down to the fact that he started ahead of him. If he'd been level it's unlikely he would have got around the back like that. For me it ranks as the second worst decision we've had against us this season. The first, of course, was the diabolical last minute goal at the Turf. That was worse, but only marginally.

Add to these the countless non-penalty awards and it's very easy to understand why it's so difficult for smaller clubs to stop up. If we're safe in May it will have been a remarkable effort against all odds.

[leedsdave]

Do indirect free kicks still exist? Direct free kicks are awarded for obstruction these days.

When is anything ever awarded for obstruction these days? The number of instances of it that get ignored in today's game is ridiculous.

[Dazzler]

It is not obstruction if the ball is within playing distance of the player shielding the ball even if that player has not touched the ball.

[Frenchclaret]

Vokes didn't get a penalty in similar circumstances when he was distracted by a high boot and headed over at West Ham. But of course he didn't pretend to be poleaxed.

[CnBtruntru]

There were at least 4-5 cases of shoves in te back yesterday which were clearly seen from tv and if I remember rightly we got one awarded for us in the second half, where as our lads have a habit of leading with their elbows, even Vokes did it when he came on and Lowton cannot believe he got himself booked for something so stupid, he has a rush of blood to the head at times.