Joey Barton's Hearing.

[Lancasterclaret]

I think Joey is a sensible chap these days, and won't do anything that will make this bigger than it is.

He'll take the punishment (as long as its proportionate) and just put it behind him.

[dsr]

If, for example, you play for Colne, then you are not allowed to bet on the World Cup Final. If you play for Nelson, then you are allowed to bet on the World Cup Final - and you are also allowed to bet on Colne!

The 1260 bets (I understand) includes every leg of an accumulator. So a three-way accumulator every Saturday of the season would account for those bets. If you do the pools, you'd get there in half a season!

[claretdom]

He also had a large bet on Barcelona at home to Celtic.


He could argue this wasn't gambling and more an investment.

[MACCA]

The 1260 bets (I understand) includes every leg of an accumulator. So a three-way accumulator every Saturday of the season would account for those bets. If you do the pools, you'd get there in half a season!

Incorrect.

Not sure if the law is a 5 fold is classed as 5 bets, or just 1.
However if it is classed as 5 single bets ( shouldn't be ) then it would take 252 weekends of betting. that would then take 5 years consecutive weekends worth of 5 folds. We all know that football is only on for about 40 weekends a season max.

No one other than Joey and the betting firm know exactly how many bets and what style they were, but its quite possible he had 2/3 accumulators each week, as well as single market bets for a number of years.

[Spijed]

It'll be a bonus if he can play in the important away games coming up.

[quoonbeatz]

We all know that football is only on for about 40 weekends a season max.

depends if he just stuck to english/major european football.

there are football matches to bet on pretty much every day of the year.

[MACCA]

So would still take 5 years if he did 1 5 fold a week ( presuming they cut as 5 bets as opposed to 1 )

On a side note, can they not bet on European leagues etc or is it a blanket ban on all football betting?

[quoonbeatz]

thats the point though, there's football available to bet on every day of the week, you could rack up the bets in no time, i doubt he just put a bet on every saturday.

even english football has a game almost every day of the week most weeks.

[Cirrus_Minor]

So I assume that any footballer cannot fill a pools coupon in ( assuming they still exist) since that could involve games you are or are not involved in.

[dsr]

Sorry Macca, I meant a three-fold accumulator every Saturday for 10 years would get him there. Not a three-fold per week in a single season.

I saw somewhere that part of Barton's mitigation was that it wasn't 1,260 bets because accumulators were counted separately. I couldn't quote you as to where or who said it, though.

[claretdom]

He could well have done perm bets say any 4 and all 5, technically that is 6 bets in 1 go.

Majority of his bets will be larger stakes singles/doubles though so very easy to rack up 20 bets in 1 midweek especially when champs league/euorpa league games are on rather than £10 accumalators

[claretspice]

There's a lot of speculation and hot air on what punishment Barton will get, and the specific nature of the offences he has admitted, and what this means.

I would suggest that the vast majority of it can be safely ignored, as it is based on assumption and very little actual knowledge or evidence.

The one thing posted today that is worth noting is the time it took for Dimichelis' matter to be scheduled, heard and the punishment determined. 6 weeks.

It would be no surprise for Barton's case to take a similar period of time to schedule, and there then remains the possibility of a further appeal. It is now over a week since Barton submitted his response and to the best of my knowledge, no hearing has yet been scheduled (nor from Barton's media comments yesterday, is there any reason to believe it is imminent).

He's pleaded guilty, reportedly, of something. Exactly what that is remains, so far as I'm aware, outside the public domain. He might get a long ban; he might not, and indeed he might not get a ban at all. He might get a big fine. He might get a combination of the two. Anyone suggesting they know more than that is probably overstating their hand.

[aggi]

The full Demichelis ruling is here http://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/thef ... -2016.ashx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Probably the interesting part is the factors that they considered when deciding on the punishment:

a. Overall perception of impact of bet(s) on fixture/game integrity;
b. Player played or did not play;
c. Number of bets;
d. Size of bets;
e. Fact and circumstances surrounding pattern of betting;
f. Actual stake and amount possible to win;
g. Personal circumstances;
h. Previous record – (any previous breach of betting Rules will be considered as a highly aggravating factor);
i. Experience of the participant; and
j. Assistance to the process and acceptance of the charge.

[matucana]

I think that the FA will have much bigger issues at the moment to consider on future configuration along with possible resignations ahead of J B.