Barton

Terry Cochrane · Post by **Terry Cochrane** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:55 am

Ric_C wrote:Also Joey didn't walk into his arm, just as he was going in front of him Rhead points his arm out, so there was contact. It was the over the top reaction afterwards that was poor from Barton. Wasn't a dive though. A dive means no contact

Think you are kidding yourself if you felt he didn't walk into his arm. And then didn't feign injury? Sorry but thats not what I saw but hopefully the FA agree with you as he may well get a retrospective ban.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:18 am

It was the fact he felt the need to do this against a non-league side that was the most annoying thing.
You'd have expected it to be the other way around, with the non-league side trying to get freekicks wherever possible and us playing white hat.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:24 am

Tinribs wrote:Wish the rest of the side had showed his passion
So he stands on someone's toe and puts a palm in someone's face....wow
Seen worse at under 12 level.
stop slagging of one of our own.

Hull next.....Lincoln forgotten for me.

This.

My nephew plays at under 12 level and knows to look out for his teammates.

Joey looked at Tark after he was hassled by Rhead and gave a "I'll take this on for you" move.

We praise Joey for his leadership and how our players look up to him. It's acts like that that make his teammates respect him...... Knowing he has their back in those situations.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:26 am

FactualFrank wrote:It was the fact he felt the need to do this against a non-league side that was the most annoying thing.
You'd have expected it to be the other way around, with the non-league side trying to get freekicks wherever possible and us playing white hat.

You can only play against 11 others on a pitch...... Whoever they are.

Non league or not..... It was frustrating seeing it but the amount of times Rhead got away with an elbow or dragging players around.

There comes a time for any player to think "well if he can do it, so can I...." Whichever level you play at.

paulatky · Post by **paulatky** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:27 am

Barton's antics yesterday made me embarressed to be a Burnley fan.
Thats not abusing the player tinribs,its a statement of fact.
Both Dyche and Barton himself have said that divers should be retrospectively punished.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:29 am

Ric_C wrote:Also Joey didn't walk into his arm, just as he was going in front of him Rhead points his arm out, so there was contact. It was the over the top reaction afterwards that was poor from Barton. Wasn't a dive though. A dive means no contact

Good point i bumped my head on a low doorway the other day and naturally fell to the floor and rolled around clutching my head. My friends in the restaurant with me thought I was very strange but they did recognise there was contact and so it wasnt a dive

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:51 am

He took control...and did the wrong thing, for once.

He will not do it again. He took a lot from the lump before, so probably thought he needed to do it. Wrong.

Move on to Hull, where we need him and the team to be at our best.

vinrogue · Post by **vinrogue** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:43 pm

For the love of a packet of wine gums, Barton got no protection from the ref in clashes the naked eye could see. He eventually tried a bit of the dark stuff, watch any PL game and you will see the dark stuff, rolling over, play acting, conning refs etc. I am putting Bartons performance in the second half down to if the ref can't see me being fouled I will try something else to get his attention. Not saying it is right or even wrong but if the ref had got a grip early doors the game would have been different. I laughed last week when Costa tweaked an opponents nose, he didn't slap him, but he tweaked his nose, why? To get a reaction. Dark arts in football are here to stay, love them or hate them.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:02 pm

If that was a red card then Barnes would be sent off 5 times every game. We all love watching him rough up centre halves. The tables were turned. It was a pathetic attempt to get that lump sent off. I hate seeing someone in a Burney shirt behave in that way. That said he's got enough in the Burnley bank to get away with it once. Bad day at the office all round. Thankfully this season we've had enough great days to enable us to soak it up, shrug it off and move on

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:04 pm

He just can't let it go on Twitter again trying to justify what he did yesterday,shut up Joey and concentrate on what you do best .

Ric_C · Post by **Ric_C** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:15 pm

Good point i bumped my head on a low doorway the other day and naturally fell to the floor and rolled around clutching my head. My friends in the restaurant with me thought I was very strange but they did recognise there was contact and so it wasnt a dive

Seriously?

I also tripped up a while ago and fell over, but I didn't appeal to the ref, you know why?

BECAUSE I WASN'T PLAYING FOOTBALL AT THE TIME

Jesus

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:23 pm

Think youve backed up my point there.

Tripping up in a football game then appealing for a foul is dishonest and cheating just like collapsing to the floor and rolling around when you bump your head

I didnt really fall over when I bumped my head just like you didnt appeal to the ref as there was no dishonest advantage in doing either outside a football game.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:22 pm

Testing testing testing.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:22 pm

Phew!

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:06 pm

If it were not for Joey Barton, there is a good chance we wouldn't be in the PL.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:13 pm

We signed Barton knowing both sides to his charachter. A very talented player. With a fiery charachter.

Like most of our players if he didnt have flaws we wouldnt have him. He would be playing for a top side even now.

In 50 games for us hes let hinself down once. Without doubt a major reason for where we are.

I will take his goal agaimst sunderland in trade for yesterdays petulance. Never mind his 40 odd vital performances to date.

Very disappointimg yesterday. Embarrassing at best. But if you think of the joey we signed and the joey have every burnley fan going would be happy.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:55 pm

paulatky wrote:Barton's antics yesterday made me embarressed to be a Burnley fan.
Thats not abusing the player tinribs,its a statement of fact.
Both Dyche and Barton himself have said that divers should be retrospectively punished.

That's not fact it is opinion and in my opinion Barton is coming in for some way over the top criticism on here

k90bfc · Post by **k90bfc** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:09 pm

Lincoln,ALE HOUSE FOOTBALLERS!

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:12 pm

You're right, Barton should act more like an under 12s player.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:17 pm

Give the bloke a break. He's been fantastic for us and as has been said numerous times he's been baited most weeks by the opposition and just got on with the game. That early challenge by Rhead is what's disgraceful and embarrassing and unfortunately Joey felt if the ref was going to allow stuff like that to go unpunished then he'd have to get his own back. That detracted from his game as he became obsessed with Rhead and it contributed to our ultimate demise. Shame, but not terminal!!

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:26 pm

paulatky wrote:I was embarressed by Barton's behavioir today.
No place for that on behalf of Burnley.
A years ban on Monday for his betting charge would not be a bad thing.

Jesus christ.

A years ban for our most influential available cm. Wanted by a burnley fan

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:32 pm

I really don't know what the fuss is all about. I thought he actually showed a fair amount of restraint. Lincoln, especially Rhead, were riling him up and feigning injuries all afternoon. Collapsing on the ground did look a bit silly but so what. His mere presence unnerves opposing players which is a good thing. The fellow he slapped looked more scared than than angry, frozen on the spot until Flanagan shoved him only for him to go down as if he was in a coma.He didn't take it any further after that with virtually the whole of the opposition trying to form a lynch party. Just backed off.

Joey Barton is an indispensable player in the team and I would expect Sean Dyche to just have a quiet word with him as opposed to some sort of punishment as suggested by one or two idiots on this forum.

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:33 pm

Certain irony in that I've no doubt a large proportion of the folk calling Barton and condemning his behaviour and rule breaking will be watching away games on Kodi boxes and the like.

Let he who is without sin etc

He had a bad day. Get over it.

northeastclaret · Post by **northeastclaret** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:40 pm

The only tits are those critizing Joey . he was providing real leadership dealing with their bullying tactics, whilst others stepped aside. He put his head and body on the line in every challenge ,he was elbowed in the face and was owed one bit of gamesmanship.

I cannot believe how pathetic some of our fans are giving Joey any stick whatsoever.

Well done Joey long may your commitment continue for the cause..

kendaldave · Post by **kendaldave** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:52 pm

Joey Barton has been an exemplary professional in both his spells with us and yet some fans are turning on him for giving a little bit back of what the Lincoln players were up to all game.

I’ve seen plenty of sanctimonious claptrap on this board before but this is right up there. To be honest, I’m far more disgusted with some of the comments on this thread than I am with Joey’s behaviour.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:58 pm

He's been great at Burnley and it has taken until now for him to step out of line. But I'm not sure it's fair to have a go at fans who aren't impressed with a Burnley player who stamped on the foot of an opponent, clawed at the face of another and rolled around on the floor holding his head in an attempt at getting an opponent sent off.

Yes Barton was targeted, and it takes a lot of restraint to rise above that, but Burnley fans are quite right to criticise any player who behaves like Barton did yesterday.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:08 pm

He didn't stamp on his foot, just backed into him and gently rested his heel on the opponents toes. As for 'clawing' at his face, he administered a small slap.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:17 pm

We need more Barton's in our team. Born winner

jjclaret · Post by **jjclaret** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:19 pm

This ok though?

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Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:38 pm

that lincoln slob should be banned retrospectively for the elbow on Barton, I hope lincoln fail miserably . not a fan of this minnow club love in at all.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:46 pm

We know what we are getting with Joey. Looking back he is the only one hurting during yesterday's game. He was immense oast year and we have been immense since coming back.SD knows this. He played a blinder v Chelsea. We all need 3 points at Hull, and I suspect his ban will start after that game. I have a feeling we will miss him immensely.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:52 pm

There are plenty that should be receiving criticism ahead of Barton. Some short memories on here and a very quick search will point to hundreds of positive posts about Barton. He's well in credit!

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:07 pm

Rileybobs wrote:He's been great at Burnley and it has taken until now for him to step out of line. But I'm not sure it's fair to have a go at fans who aren't impressed with a Burnley player who stamped on the foot of an opponent, clawed at the face of another and rolled around on the floor holding his head in an attempt at getting an opponent sent off.

Yes Barton was targeted, and it takes a lot of restraint to rise above that, but Burnley fans are quite right to criticise any player who behaves like Barton did yesterday.

This is how I see it.

We can't have it both ways and criticise Sanchez/Costa etc for cheating when Joey did what he did yesterday. I also agree he has been immense for us and this is the first black mark against him. He is well in credit for good v bad but he shouldn't look at yesterday as a proud moment.

Let's hope we move on and get the real Joey back next week at Hull.

paulatky · Post by **paulatky** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:20 am

Dont think Barton will be playing against Hull,
Start of a 3 match ban for the stamp on Rhead's foot once the footage is viewed retrospectively homrrow.
A ban that will see him miss the 2 vital games with Hull and Swansea.
What on earth was he thinking yesterday

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:24 am

Its just as well he didn't have a lit cigar..

Formerbfcmanager · Post by **Formerbfcmanager** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:45 am

kendaldave wrote:Joey Barton has been an exemplary professional in both his spells with us and yet some fans are turning on him for giving a little bit back of what the Lincoln players were up to all game.

I’ve seen plenty of sanctimonious claptrap on this board before but this is right up there. To be honest, I’m far more disgusted with some of the comments on this thread than I am with Joey’s behaviour.

Couldn't agree more. People seem to forget that football payers are just blokes, how many times do we have a bad day or are more cranky and irritable than usual, maybe we've had a row with the other half or any of the other stressors in life are affecting us. Add to that the intense scrutiny that these guys are under, plus Joey's pending case with the FA and sometimes the cracks are bound to show.

He's been great for us, last week he was imperious against the best team and best centre midfielder in the league and yesterday was a mere blip, insignificant in the grand scheme of things

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:52 am

Justifying behaviour like that.. Deary me. Losing your values at a fast rate of knots.

Formerbfcmanager · Post by **Formerbfcmanager** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:56 am

Not justifying his behaviour, just pointing out that we are all human and make mistakes. Forgive and move on

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:28 am

Let's take these claret and blue specs off. Anyone watching the game could see that we had a rehearsed tactic to frustrate Rhead which comprised of Joey Barton getting very close and backing into Rhead as James Tarkowski tried to win the aerial challenges standing close and behind Rhead. It worked to an extent but it meant there were several clashes between the three of them throughout the game. We should stop the whinging about the ref missing Rhead fouls as if he was the only offender out of the three of them. They all gave as good as they got but then Joey just did a Joey 'thing' which was a bit cringy. For me it merited a yellow. Flanagan probably should have had a red for the push and Joey either a yellow or probably a red for the facial massage he gave the lad. So really, we got off quite lightly.

The ref either lets a few things go which he did as he didn't want a physical game to end up as an 8 a side game, or he flashes an early yellow in the hope the other players will take heed and use a bit of self discipline. Rhead gave some out and took some as well. After Barton got to his feet you can quite easily lipread Rhead saying to Barton, 'that's 3 times' which just confirms the evidence of my eyes throughout the game.

I'm amazed that so many people on this thread seem to only have seen the fouls committed by Rhead in the game.

The photo still was probably another example of Barton doing what he did throughout the game of backing into Rhead whenever Rhead tried to head the ball. The photo is certainly inconclusive and open to interpretation and both players got away with being pulled up as the ref would be challenged to decide who was committing the original offence.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:15 am

the ref saw it, called both players over and booked Barton - there can be no retrospective action taken by the FA

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:35 am

The most irritating thread I've read on here.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:47 am

Darnhill Claret wrote: The photo still was probably another example of Barton doing what he did throughout the game of backing into Rhead whenever Rhead tried to head the ball. The photo is certainly inconclusive and open to interpretation and both players got away with being pulled up as the ref would be challenged to decide who was committing the original offence.

That's not the case in that instance. Barton was stood, about to jump when Rhead came charging in, from a distance, leading with his arm. Definitely a yellow, possibly a red. The fact that neither were given set the tone for the rest of the game.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:00 am

kendaldave wrote:Joey Barton has been an exemplary professional in both his spells with us and yet some fans are turning on him for giving a little bit back of what the Lincoln players were up to all game.

I’ve seen plenty of sanctimonious claptrap on this board before but this is right up there. To be honest, I’m far more disgusted with some of the comments on this thread than I am with Joey’s behaviour.

Exemplary - hes here now under a pending investigation into gambling irregularities breaching rules thats quite a cloud. If the charges get dropped & he gets exonerated i will stand corrected. Im not sure exemplary is the correct word to use add saturdays unsavoury incident into the melting pot. Oh right then exemplary it is.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:25 am

Is what happened on Saturday the average for his behaviour whilst playing for Burnley?

Or a one off?

If you think its the first one, then you need to 1) get a seat facing the pitch and 2) makes sure you are actually watching him play for Burnley

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:44 am

I can't help but find it hilarious that some people on this thread are trying to fool themselves into believing that there was somehow painful contact with Rhead's arm and poor Joey was genuinely traumatised but his reaction was a bit over the top from this horrific contact. Joey was very, very naughty and should be punished! Lines or detention should do it.

tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:52 am

Mountains and mole hills spring to mind.

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:54 am

morpheus2 wrote:I can't help but find it hilarious that some people on this thread are trying to fool themselves into believing that there was somehow painful contact with Rhead's arm and poor Joey was genuinely traumatised but his reaction was a bit over the top from this horrific contact. Joey was very, very naughty and should be punished! Lines or detention should do it.

I can't believe some people are still talking about this over 36 hours since the event, as if he's caused significant issues. There are people still plying their trade in this industry who have killed people. Maybe put more of your energy into vilifying them instead?

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:17 am

Dark Cloud wrote:Give the bloke a break. He's been fantastic for us and as has been said numerous times he's been baited most weeks by the opposition and just got on with the game. That early challenge by Rhead is what's disgraceful and embarrassing and unfortunately Joey felt if the ref was going to allow stuff like that to go unpunished then he'd have to get his own back. That detracted from his game as he became obsessed with Rhead and it contributed to our ultimate demise. Shame, but not terminal!!

And Matt Rhead was quoted in yesterday's S.Times as that was the plan.

We all know it was part of their plan - compete and "get in the face" of the opposition. It's what we expect Burnley players to do and "competing physically" is one of Ashley Barnes' strengths.

What is disappointing is that Joey got drawn into responding to their plan. Agree, it's where we lost the game - that and not scoring when we had chances to score.

Live and learn. Good luck to Lincoln in the next round.

UTC

Sutton-Claret · Post by **Sutton-Claret** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:34 am

If it wasn't for Bartons antics I think Grays performance would have been getting a bigger grilling. He was shocking....

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:51 am

He made himself look a bit stupid.
He's probably a bit embarrassed which is why he's been a bit more visible than normal on Twitter.

In the long run he won't care and we all move on.