Coke heads

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:43 pm

I'm surprised that more isn't made of the scale of coke usage these days. I see news articles about the use of and issue with "spice" but rarely, if ever, about cocaine.

Back in my day (not so long ago) recreational drugs were confined either to the home or to pills and coke in the clubs - agree with it or not, those taking them were carrying out their chosen activity, fuelled by their substance(s) of choice, in a place with likeminded people.

Fast forward to the 2017 (and it's been rife for a good number of years now) and it's everywhere! The village pub in a nice location, the village pub in a not so nice location, big towns, small towns, affluent cities, not so affluent cities.

Why has snorting lines become the thing to do at a local village pub where people of all ages go for food and drink!? What has happened to just going out and having some beers, why the need for lines of coke!?

The nose rubbing, faux self confidence, cock sure snorters do my head in. Get yourself to a club with some decent music if you want to partake in the Colombian marching powder, not your village local or local town.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:47 pm

I think there's more to be said about the rising addiction to Cocaine. People that aren't necessarily think about whether it's a appropriate setting to do that sort of thing.

I don't think there's anything wrong with recreational drugs enjoyed responsibly but agree there's a time and place.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:52 pm

Coke, coca cola, love it! Cherry coke, fruit machine, ding ding! Ring my bell, Anita Ward 1979 same year as The Wall. Wall-E great film. Be right back, gotta pop to the gents.

Bertiebeehead · Post by **Bertiebeehead** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:53 pm

Which pub? Just so I know to avoid it obviously!

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:57 pm

We all have mates that waste half the night amd half their wage on a night out sorting a few grams out.

As the OP said - I dont mind people doing it but I find it mad how many people dont do it "recreationally" now but actually seem reliant on a few lines to have a pint.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:09 pm

You will never beat it, people choose drugs over friends time and time again.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:10 pm

Coke can turn people into complete and utter mouth breathers.

A once rich mans drug, now consumed in the toilets of BB11 and Pharaohs. Weird concept to me.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:17 pm

They aren't snorting cocaine, or if they are its very very weak.
They aren't willing to listen or consider that what they're sniffing could be made up of a number of things, including poisons and paracetamol.

With a bit of luck they'll end up seriously ill through their own stupidity.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:28 pm

Bertiebeehead wrote:Which pub? Just so I know to avoid it obviously!

From what I've seen, and I go out in a lot of places, it'd be easier to mention pubs where i don't see it happen.

I live in a nice little village and even the very nice local village pub has its share of three blokes in one cubicle!

I just don't get it in a place like that. Are they so insecure that they can't have a good night just having a beer or two, or more!? I'm amazed that more isn't made of it and done about it when it so prevalent.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:28 pm

Not to mention the fast singing it causes in the CFS

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:29 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Not to mention the fast singing it causes in the CFS

At last, the reason has been found!!

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:31 pm

Coke Zero Sugar is superb

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:32 pm

You`ll be in the toilets next snorting Cecil!

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:35 pm

DCWat wrote: I'm amazed that more isn't made of it and done about it when it so prevalent.

Its so common place where do you start with it?
Same with cannabis, they're part of everyday life, even footballers 'allegedly' use it.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:44 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Its so common place where do you start with it?
Same with cannabis, they're part of everyday life, even footballers 'allegedly' use it.

I'd start by targeting the places where it really shouldn't be happening. It's doesn't even appear to be a risk to take it anymore and there is little or no attempt to hide it.

Not the norm by any means but I have on a couple of occasions seen people taking it from a pub table at a busy town bar.

If we are accepting that it will be taken, let's at least try to ensure it's limited as to where it can be taken. Not easy I appreciate but just how much other crime is associated with drug sales and use?

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:50 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:You`ll be in the toilets next snorting Cecil!

You mean Charlie?

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:59 pm

Make it all legal - the supply would all but dry up.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:59 pm

Cannabis users will tell you that what they do doesn't have an impact on crime rates, they're usually too stoned to do anything or they're eating.

Coke heads are a different matter, people can be off their face on it and its fairly 50/50 if they're going to be mental on it.
A lad who I used to talk to alot gave me a gob full of abuse one night out whilst he was off his face.
That was 4 1/2 years ago and I've hardly spoken to him since, we used to be best mates and he's my sons uncle too.

You get lots of 'carpet carriers' who think they're tough after they've taken it too.

No ones in a rush to deal with the problem, its probably just best to hope there's a bad batch kicking around like there was with Heroin in Glasgow a couple of years ago, that killed a few junkies off.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:04 pm

starting_11 wrote:You mean Charlie?

Brian Potter wasn't it?

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:04 pm

Last para, a bit extreme Sidney ! Good on yer.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:07 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Brian Potter wasn't it?

Thinks it's spelt Brain. That's it, Brain Potter. I got a little pop up book through my door a few weeks back.

... Is he drawing a dog?

Amex · Post by **Amex** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:10 pm

Sidney1st wrote:
No ones in a rush to deal with the problem, its probably just best to hope there's a bad batch kicking around like there was with Heroin in Glasgow a couple of years ago, that killed a few junkies off.

So that is how you feel the country should deal with addiction ?
"Killing a few junkies off"

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:18 pm

The concept of addiction is too broad and not understood for there to be any real solution.

Is it something that physically affects someone? Or is it psychological? Does it start of psychological and become physical? Does it start of physical and become psychological?

Is dependence worse than addiction? Are the two words interchangeable?

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:19 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:The concept of addiction is too broad and not understood for there to be any real solution.

Is it something that physically affects someone? Or is it psychological? Does it start of psychological and become physical? Does it start of physical and become psychological?

Is dependence worse than addiction? Are the two words interchangeable?

Yes.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:22 pm

Posted about this before and got laughed at. I guarantee more people are at it than not. And from more backgrounds and social spectrums than youd expect.

Its laughable its not even cocaine for a start. If some scumbag is selling crap based on weight, whats he going to do? Fill it with crap.

Aside from myself I think I know two people who have never tried it. Its rife.

Pathetic if you ask me. Like real life and experiences arent enough. Sad.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:29 pm

Amex wrote:So that is how you feel the country should deal with addiction ?
"Killing a few junkies off"

Nah, the NHS is too stretched to deal with it and the state isn't in a rush to deal with the dregs of society that are junkies.

Even those that got killed off didn't serve as a deterrent to others, so that isn't really a viable option.
The family that sold that batch only recently got locked up, I read the article not that long ago about it.
They got caught because they were too flash with their cash and some of then bragged about where their money came from

Amex · Post by **Amex** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:31 pm

Addictions are an illness, until that is understood nothing else will be understood and that includes cure.

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:31 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:I think there's more to be said about the rising addiction to Cocaine. People that aren't necessarily think about whether it's a appropriate setting to do that sort of thing.

I don't think there's anything wrong with recreational drugs enjoyed responsibly but agree there's a time and place.

You forget about the pain and suffering involved in getting the drug to the consumer. Naive end users oblivious to the misery they help fuel in the pipeline

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:32 pm

So the stuff in cocaine and heroin aren't causing the addiction?

Yes there are people with what I'd call an addictive nature, but something in the drugs helps get them addicted.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:40 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:I think there's more to be said about the rising addiction to Cocaine. People that aren't necessarily think about whether it's a appropriate setting to do that sort of thing.

I don't think there's anything wrong with recreational drugs enjoyed responsibly but agree there's a time and place.

Problem is it doesn't say on the packet that this drug could cause you to stroke out or have a heart attack from the arterial spasms that coke causes and nor are you sure what is in the powder other than coke?
Informed choices yes, misinformed choices-no

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:42 pm

I've thought, for many years, that the rise in children with behavioural problems is down to the past lifestyles of their parents, around the time they were conceived.
If the government put money into investigating this and stopped wasting it on detection it would be a start.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:42 pm

No idea why anyone would be tempted in the first place. No value of life.

We went to Amsterdam the week after some people had died out there from white heroin. Yet many of the group were sourcing stuff. I just dont understand it.

Amex · Post by **Amex** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:49 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:I just dont understand it.

I am very pleased you don't understand it, as to me it spells you are not an addict.
Others don't have that luxury as they are addict's......
It is a blight on our country and I wish we had an easy answer but it's not an easy problem

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:50 pm

I understand addictions and addicts. As good as anyone. I dont understand why someone would start in the first place.

Amex · Post by **Amex** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:53 pm

Cc I hear you but do you drink? If the answer is yes then did you know prior to your first drink that you would not be addicted?
With all due respect I doubt it.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:03 pm

Sidney1st wrote:They aren't snorting cocaine, or if they are its very very weak.
They aren't willing to listen or consider that what they're sniffing could be made up of a number of things, including poisons and paracetamol.

With a bit of luck they'll end up seriously ill through their own stupidity.

Its not even proper sniff. A lot of it is an anaesthetic that's a known carcigenic. ( the stuff that numbs ya teeth)

And at the end of the day , why pay a fortune to turn yourself into a cock sure, know it all !?

On the brightside , there are posters on here (turtles head) who must be saving a fortune!

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:06 pm

Amex wrote:Cc I hear you but do you drink? If the answer is yes then did you know prior to your first drink that you would not be addicted?
With all due respect I doubt it.

Yep. And i also know its produced and regulated in a controlled environment in proper conditions.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:06 pm

Are those that are regularly taking coke in pubs etc. addicts though? As far as I know and can see, it's a recreational choice, not something that they must take due to addiction or dependency.

Crack or Heroin and it's a different matter but this is lines of coke (with whatever else mixed in) to accompany their pints on a night out. Two very different things.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:10 pm

I think theyre addicted to it in the circumstances if that makes sense. Feel like they have to take it. And incapable of holding conversation or concentrating without it.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:14 pm

Yeah I get what you're saying - more a case of a night out isn't the same without it.

Man of Kent · Post by **Man of Kent** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:15 pm

We had a gang of 'country folk' - those who don't do a lot of travelling - who were shovelling that garbage up their noses in the toilets of our quiet village pub and we (those who were as mad as hell and didn't want to take it anymore) took the matters into our own hands and persuaded them that they weren't welcome and convinced them to go back to their hovels and consume it there. The problem was very effectively solved, but we had to stand up and be counted and take some positive, proactive action to rid our village of that menace.

Amex · Post by **Amex** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:16 pm

Makes perfect sense CC
It is a lifestyle they feel they can't operate survive be accepted with out the stuff..... the more they have the more they crave, round and round......
but addicts stop at nothing, that I feel separates addiction from occasional use if that makes sense?
UTC

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:25 pm

We're all in the goo of the culture glue, where everyone is connected to the psychosis of media, pulsating from the i-phone in the back pocket, so no longer village pub, but world centre for philosophy, war strategy, sex and death and religion and footy and all trying to spin the wheel of the hype and trying to jump on.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:33 pm

The pub has always been the place for talking over a wide range of subjects, long before the advent of the internet and the phone, allowing everyone immediate access to the latest news from the palm of your hand.

I don't quite see the link between that and the rise in cocaine usage in local pubs, or elsewhere for that matter. Unless I'm missing something?

CHEWBACCA · Post by **CHEWBACCA** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:34 pm

The white stuff is everywhere,it really is....

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:42 pm

OK Dwat, I think that's fair, I would answer that the media presence now being everywhere, those discussions are now media directed whereas before it was just individuals with subjective thoughts and first person interaction. It's cocaine/spice/weed as the impression of that media connectivity.

atlantalad · Post by **atlantalad** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:43 pm

by Pstotto » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:25 pm

We're all in the goo of the culture glue,
where everyone is connected to the psychosis of media,
pulsating from the i-phone in the back pocket,
so no longer village pub,
but world centre for philosophy,
war strategy, sex and death and religion and footy
and all trying to spin the wheel of the hype and trying to jump on.

Brill lyrics, just need the melody now for a hit.

burnmark · Post by **burnmark** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:43 pm

Extremely surreal situation of seeing a Charlton fan snorting a line on the centre spot during the pitch invasion last season.

'I'm snorting facking Charlie in The Valley!'

Sad act.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:45 pm

Certainly greater opportunities to be influenced, positively or negatively, Pstotto.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:46 pm

atlantalad wrote:Brill lyrics, just need the melody now for a hit.

Brilliant atlantalad