Early summer targets.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:22 pm

'...doesn't understand the offside rule...'

could play him alongside Andre!

claretandblue · Post by **claretandblue** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:28 pm

Dewhurst1882 wrote:I imagine wingers like Aaron Lennon and Ashley Young would be available but not sure of their desire any more.

Had a look at Lennon in January. Wages were too much.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:37 pm

Mooy and Delph very good shouts.

When will we ever stop going on about Jay Rod though. If he was from Southampton we wouldnt even consider him!

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:37 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:60 to 80 million over the summer a must on between 4 to 6 new player.........we need wide players first

We have Brady for the left its just the right winger we need now.

Would like to see the defensive straitjacket taken off the wide players as at the moment we basically play like we have two full backs on each wing that just defend against opposition wingers.

Ward has been excellent getting forward recently though, hopefully Brady will settle in soon and we'll see a lot better performances from him....

Tracking back is not his game though so its up to Dyche to rejig his tactics on that one.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:38 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:After watching Shane Long just now I pray even further we don't sign him, doesn't understand the offside rule.

that's what happens when you hardly play though, run of games would soon knock that out of him

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:41 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:Marney and Barton ahead of Defour and Hendrick ........LOL ARE YOU ON DRUGS

Never said my choice - this is what I would expect from Sean with our current challenges and his current levels of belief in the players he works with - I repeat I expect that to change after a full pre season for all those players - subject to injury

Stockbrokerbelt · Post by **Stockbrokerbelt** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:42 pm

Tom ince, a legend in his dads ball bag, never a premiership winger not got enough pace or know how. I think we will target a winger, defensive minds, new CB & another striker but it will be pace & size of unit that will dictate.

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:57 pm

minnieclaret wrote:I'd have Tom Ince as well. Might not have the defensive qualities SD likes but always entertaining and does score regularly at his current level.

Not for me, you then end up with his dad hovering around the place sharing his insights

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:58 pm

We need an out and out striker / poacher

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:17 pm

Three new centre backs.

Shore claret · Post by **Shore claret** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:20 pm

Be some clear out at city but would you want any of them?

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:35 pm

I'd like a striker who gets 70+ goals every season and a goalie who never lets any in.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:06 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote:We have Brady for the left its just the right winger we need now.

JBG, providing he can stay fit.

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:07 pm

Id like 2 wingers that can actually cross the ball whilst bearing their man on the outside.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:14 pm

I won't name any targets, but we need to look at European markets, both for value and athleticism (pace in particular).

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:00 am

This guy from the european market Viktor Kovalenko, good young right winger for about 8/10 million would be a good start

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:21 am

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Next season`s starting eleven

*****
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Ward
Gudmundsson Hendrick ***** Brady
******* Vokes

So, 3 players needed.

If Gray leaves we'd need two new up front. I like Sam a lot but sadly he's back up at this level.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:30 am

What about Ben Gibson (if Boro go down) as a replacement for Micheal Keane.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:35 am

Hughes at Derby or Stephens
Robertson at Hull
Jay Rod
Taylor

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:36 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Mooy and Delph very good shouts.

When will we ever stop going on about Jay Rod though. If he was from Southampton we wouldnt even consider him!

We wouldn't consider an England capped forward tipped for a move to a top 4 club before some misfortune with injuries which have seen him fall down the pecking order at his current club?

Not even one who seems to tick virtually every box in terms of being able to offer a more skilful option to Barnes in the number 10 role, whilst also having the pace to play wide in a 4-5-1 or even as the lead striker?

I disagree to be honest. It so happens that Rodriguez is from Burnley and this might help us land him, but far more importantly, he has exactly the sort of skill set we are looking for, and also both the pedigree and current status (as a not-quite regular at an upper mid-table Premier League club) that we are looking for. He's tailor made for our requirements.

Suratclaret · Post by **Suratclaret** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:42 pm

"He's tailor made for our requirements."
.....but is Burnley tailor made for his requirements?

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:47 pm

Suratclaret wrote:"He's tailor made for our requirements."
.....but is Burnley tailor made for his requirements?

Who knows. That's the question.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:50 pm

Upgrade on both full backs. Robertson would be a start.
Upgrade on Barton / Defour
Upgrade on Barnes / Vokes
Centre half as cover / competition on the assumption Keane departs.

So 5 / 6 players should do it.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:58 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:This guy from the european market Viktor Kovalenko, good young right winger for about 8/10 million would be a good start

On the subject of Ukranian players, no idea how Andriy Yarmolenko is still playing for Dynamo Kiev. Outstanding player.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:00 pm

claretspice wrote:We wouldn't consider an England capped forward tipped for a move to a top 4 club before some misfortune with injuries which have seen him fall down the pecking order at his current club?

Not even one who seems to tick virtually every box in terms of being able to offer a more skilful option to Barnes in the number 10 role, whilst also having the pace to play wide in a 4-5-1 or even as the lead striker?

I disagree to be honest. It so happens that Rodriguez is from Burnley and this might help us land him, but far more importantly, he has exactly the sort of skill set we are looking for, and also both the pedigree and current status (as a not-quite regular at an upper mid-table Premier League club) that we are looking for. He's tailor made for our requirements.

He is injury prone, rarley plays never mind scores and is on around 70k a week!

I would rather look outside the box on this one. Andriy Yarmolenko who I mentioned above offers what Jay does and more. And will be far cheaper.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:02 pm

Romelu Lukaku and Wayne Rooney.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:14 pm

I don't know what Rodriguez is on and if it is in the region of 70k a week (I'd be astonished, but then I suppose you should always expect to be astonished when it comes to footballers' salaries these days) then clearly he'd not be for us - but that's not a reason for us not to ask the question. As for his injury record, he had a period of serious injuries, certainly, but since then he just seems to have slipped down the pecking order.

I'm not saying he's the only player who might fit that bill and your man Yarmolenko is an interesting shout, although players from Russia don't tend to be on peanuts and there's an added gamble factor with someone who has never played in Western Europe, let alone England.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:41 pm

Southampton extended his contract in 2015 when City, Liverpool and Spurs were after him. This story says it was 60k but I heard it was 67.5! Either way both way above what we should play for a player like Jay. He is 28 this summer and can't live off potential forever. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... uture.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Agree on the unknown with Yarmolenko. But he has been superb in Europe and for his country. He absolutely ripped Everton apart a couple of seasons ago in The Europa League. While Kiev will pay a decent amount we should be able to match what he earns and give him the window we gave Defour.

Don't tell the locals that Dynamo Kiev is Russian

Edit to add the Jay contract story.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:06 pm

beddie wrote:What about Ben Gibson (if Boro go down) as a replacement for Micheal Keane.

Seems a bit pointless as we've got a fantastic replacement in James Tarkowski, plus he'd cost the same amount as Keane I'd reckon.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:22 pm

Tarky will be fine but I still think we need a dominant blood and guts type centre back if Keans goes and Gibson fits that criteria for me. Dawson (let's not go there) is another at West Brom.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:53 pm

Wouldn't mind us looking at the likes of Tom Lawrence or Tom Cairney from the league below. In reality we'll just end up signing more hard working grafters.

Brunlea · Post by **Brunlea** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:09 pm

Tom Lawrence on loan at Ipswich from Leicester a 'Dyche improvable'' player.
Harry Maguire if Hull do go-good replacement for Keane.
Nakhi Wells-if Huddersfield don't go up.
All three would add to squad and not break the bank.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:42 pm

Anthony Modeste. Had a stint with Rovers and wasn't great but has been banging them in since, plenty for Cologne this season. Big, strong, quick. (He's 28 though.)

We should definitely be looking in the Bundesliga, definitely. Many of the teams play a similar system to how Dyche likes and there's got to be some bargains.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:43 pm

Unless I've missed a post, I'll say it.
We don't do 'Early'.

More goal threat plus, at least one that can do a Tripps and get a decent cross in for the lads we do have.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:25 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:Unless I've missed a post, I'll say it.
We don't do 'Early'.

More goal threat plus, at least one that can do a Tripps and get a decent cross in for the lads we do have.

Once Brady gets into the swing of things his crossing will be every bit as good, if not better, than Trippier's. That's what we spent £13 million on!

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:38 pm

Has Dale Stephens signed a contract at Brighton yet? I suspect he'll be on SD's shortlist if we can get him on a free. Perfect replacement for Marney who I fear won't return to the first team again.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:43 pm

HelloHiGoodbye wrote:Anthony Modeste. Had a stint with Rovers and wasn't great but has been banging them in since, plenty for Cologne this season. Big, strong, quick. (He's 28 though.)

We should definitely be looking in the Bundesliga, definitely. Many of the teams play a similar system to how Dyche likes and there's got to be some bargains.

There are some good players in Budnesliga. And Modeste crossed my mind. But I have been to a lot of games out there and even their european sides Bayern and Dortmund aside are poor.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:13 pm

Tom Lawrence has had a good season at Ipswich same for Cairney at Fulham.
Robertson at Hull looks a very good player.
Portus Jannson at Leeds has been good at CB by all accounts.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:17 pm

beddie wrote:What about Ben Gibson (if Boro go down) as a replacement for Micheal Keane.

Several papers have quoted Gibson being looked at by the likes of City and Chelsea

Very good player who has been strong at the back for Boro - they just can't score goals

taffy · Post by **taffy** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:59 pm

Stephens will sign from Brighton but apart from that the midfield is sorted if the likes of arfield and boyd decide to go they will need replacing what we want is another striker and cover for both full backs

BFC88 · Post by **BFC88** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:56 pm

I believe we need a CB to replace Keane
A left back as back up to Ward
A striker to link play (ings or jay would be perfect)
A creative attacking midfielder

Heaton

Lowton
Tarkowski
Mee
Ward

JBG
Hendrick
Defour
Brady

NEW

NEW

Could go 451 by replacing attacking mid / 2nd striker with defensive midfielder. Barton would be ideal if not NEW player required.

So 4 possibly 5 new players, all bar understudy LB for the starting X1

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:39 am

Need to improve on Lowton at the back.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:24 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:If Gray leaves we'd need two new up front. I like Sam a lot but sadly he's back up at this level.

Understand your sentiments BUT I think with a more dynamic midfield and wide unit, Vokes would definitely not look so cumbersome and shine at this level. Put him in the Spurs line-up (Gray for that matter) and he would bag 15 a season.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:54 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:Need to improve on Lowton at the back.

Why?

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:57 pm

Because, In my opinion, he's the week link in the back 4..... continually loses his man and we should be looking to strengthen this position.

You happy to roll into next season with him at RB Spijed?

KateR · Post by **KateR** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:25 pm

I think we will be looking at the relegated teams and who they will want off their payroll is probably the most likely pool we will be fishing in.

Gaston R plus Toure at Boro are players I think could improve the team
Sunderland Defoe but am positive we will not get him, maybe Januzj (spelling!) maybe, 2 years ago I would have been so excited to have him but not sure now

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:35 pm

Januzaj definitely has the talent. Was impressed with MAguire at Hull even though he looks slow and cumbersome.

Lowton is quality.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:38 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:Because, In my opinion, he's the week link in the back 4..... continually loses his man and we should be looking to strengthen this position.

You happy to roll into next season with him at RB Spijed?

Yes I would. He may not have the crossing abilities of Trippier but as a defender he seems better at this level.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:39 pm

Trippier
Maguire
Robertson
Cairney
Stephens
Rodriguez
Knockeart

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:49 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:JBG, providing he can stay fit.

I think we should get someone rapid for the right, I like JBG but his injuries are pretty frequent and we can't be relying on squad players forever.