How did this racist animal avoid jail?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:40 pm

Just because i was replying to you doesn't mean my post was only for you.

FulledgeClaret · Post by **FulledgeClaret** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:43 pm

it was his 3rd race hate crime against white females shows what a coward this piece of **** is. if the shoe was on the other foot so to speak and the skin colours were reversed would the offender have got time. He will do it again and hopefully next time there's a bloke around to smash his teeth in.

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:54 pm

On a more positive note... Racism is diminishing.

Stories like this are "news" now. In my childhood, racism the other way would not even be commented on.

I remember stories of building being set alight.

Nowadays we are getting to be truly more multicultural.

Thankfully we are "getting there".

boiledclaret · Post by **boiledclaret** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:26 pm

Miss Dowling told the court the spit was "sprayed around" the baby's face,and a shocked passer by gave her a tissue to clean up.

Comments like that are great for triggering off the usual vitriol from the usual suspects. Sure he's a disgusting piece of vermin but does he really represent all immigration in the UK? and it's perfectly timed in light of the Westminister attacks.

This is a story that's taylor-made for the Katie Hopkins and the Littlejohns of this world.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:29 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Who the **** thinks black people get special compensation for having a bad attitude?

There's **** all wrong with a Society of Black Lawyers. There's **** all wrong with a Society for White Lawyers either. The difference would be, though, that the Society for Black Lawyers is to protect against racism, not project it. And that's something you don't seem to want to understand.

Anti-white racism is not anywhere close to as big a problem as racism towards non-whites is. It's not as big a problem as it used to be but it's still a problem.

And the idea the we just let people stand infront of mosques and spout hatred is hideously stupid. Ask Abu Hamza and Anjem Choudrey if the are allowed to spout their hatred in front of mosques.

And yes, you and I might not like it when people call our military personnel "baby killers" but so what? What crime is that they're committing? If it's not true then who gives a ****? This is what freedom of speech looks like. The fact that these people weren't criminalised for saying things we don't like is comforting to me because it shows that I can say things they won't like too. It seems to me that you're veyr anti-British if you think people should be arrested for saying things that you find offensive. What happened to standing up for British Values™?

There would be something wrong with a society for white lawyers.
And it isn't British values that allow them to stand on street corners hurling abuse at the dead and their relatives, infact it's completely anti British. But very politically correct... There are laws in this land about incitement and breach of the peace. If you truly believe these people aren't committing a crime then your clearly of that left wing brigade, OR maybe you just want to court an argument as usual.
I don't think that black racism is as prevalent as white. That doesn't make it right, it shouldn't mean that it's alright to overlook it. I'd happily birch the lot of them. But then I try to treat everybody equally.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:33 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:
Anti-white racism is not anywhere close to as big a problem as racism towards non-whites is.

Remind me the last time MTV ran an advert promoting resolutions for black guys like the one they ran in the link.

Unfortunately white blokes need to face the fact that they are the only ones capable of racism or sexism, particularly whilst the mainstream media are pushing bile like this...

https://youtu.be/6sHZjEbqS9s

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:39 pm

the law are scared of muslims and see racism different when its white people on the receiving end.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:57 pm

Cheers Katie

Welcome to the board

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:12 pm

KRBFC's comment may be mocked but there is probably an element of truth in what he says. I do think that there is an element of fear within those enforcing the laws that prevents them, in some instances, from being balanced in their actions depending upon the race, religion or colour of the perpetrator.

The fear of being branded racist does have an affect and it does influence decisions, be this the police or in the workplace. It shouldn't but it does.

Healeywoodclaret · Post by **Healeywoodclaret** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:13 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:It's beyond belief.

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/crim ... -1-8401470" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Typical ISIS Coward. He wouldn't have done it if the baby's father was there for fear of getting a hiding. Goes to show the strength of Muslim hate towards White British.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:15 pm

Healeywoodclaret wrote:Typical ISIS Coward. He wouldn't have done it if the baby's father was there for fear of getting a hiding. Goes to show the strength of Muslim hate towards White British.

Well it may go to show the strength of one mans hate.

Healeywoodclaret · Post by **Healeywoodclaret** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:17 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:It's beyond belief.

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/crim ... -1-8401470" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I live in the North East Ringo. I saw this in The Metro a couple of weeks ago. I'm not surprised. Well actually not a lot of this in the North East generally compared to North West but I'm under no illusions about the strength of Muslim hate towards White British.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:23 pm

Healeywoodclaret wrote:I live in the North East Ringo. I saw this in The Metro a couple of weeks ago. I'm not surprised. Well actually not a lot of this in the North East generally compared to North West but I'm under no illusions about the strength of Muslim hate towards White British.

Me neither, it's not that much. Being White British and living in an area with a high Muslim Kurdish population I'd have probably noticed otherwise.

Healeywoodclaret · Post by **Healeywoodclaret** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:25 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Serious question Ringo, would you have posted this story if it was about a white man spitting at a black baby?

Also, do you search for these stories or are you a regular reader of The Shields Gazette?

Watch it Ringo there's a seriously big Muslim Love In Brigade on this board! You know they gang up and start bullying folk.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:30 pm

You know when people tell me that people who voted Brexit are not bigots or not thick , can I quote this thread as evidence that they are?

Asking for a friend

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:33 pm

Good thread, would read again

8/10

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:36 pm

It's not as though if this was reversed a hate crime and custodial charges would be imminent, is it?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:44 pm

Healeywoodclaret wrote:I live in the North East Ringo. I saw this in The Metro a couple of weeks ago. I'm not surprised. Well actually not a lot of this in the North East generally compared to North West but I'm under no illusions about the strength of Muslim hate towards White British.

This incident goes a long way to proving the hatred the people of the North-East have towards women and children.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:52 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:You know when people tell me that people who voted Brexit are not bigots or not thick , can I quote this thread as evidence that they are?

Asking for a friend

Yes, because judging 17 million people based on a few posters on a football message board is really open minded.
Well done

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:56 pm

Darthlaw wrote:Remind me the last time MTV ran an advert promoting resolutions for black guys like the one they ran in the link.

Unfortunately white blokes need to face the fact that they are the only ones capable of racism or sexism, particularly whilst the mainstream media are pushing bile like this...

https://youtu.be/6sHZjEbqS9s

Remind me of the last time a white guy was killed by a western police officer for being white.

If the best you can do is cite a stupid MTV advert as evidence that anti-white racism is as bad as racism suffered by non-whites then i think all you've done is prove my point.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:57 pm

DCWat wrote:Well it may go to show the strength of one mans hate.

You're spitting into the wind trying to get people like him to listen

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:59 pm

Putting the race thing to one side, can we all agree on that he wants his head stoving in?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:09 pm

Yes we can!

Yeah sorry Damo, clearly these two voted Brexit because of the bureaucracy of the EU.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:17 pm

Damo wrote:Yes, because judging 17 million people based on a few posters on a football message board is really open minded.
Well done

I'm pretty sure LancasterClaret wasn't being entirely serious.

Yet, it's interesting that you had to scroll past messages that say this one guy being racist is evidence that Muslims hate white people in order to be offended by someone saying that that person is evidence that Brexiteers are stupid.
Why weren't you so 'vocal' when healeywoodclaret was being closed minded and making judgements on over a billion Muslims based on one headcase in South Shields?

Face it, you like political correctness just as much as the rest of us, but only when it means people don't discriminate against the things you care about.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:35 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I'm pretty sure LancasterClaret wasn't being entirely serious.

Yet, it's interesting that you had to scroll past messages that say this one guy being racist is evidence that Muslims hate white people in order to be offended by someone saying that that person is evidence that Brexiteers are stupid.
Why weren't you so 'vocal' when healeywoodclaret was being closed minded and making judgements on over a billion Muslims based on one headcase in South Shields?

Face it, you like political correctness just as much as the rest of us, but only when it means people don't discriminate against the things you care about.

I couldn't care less about political correctness.
I just find it ironic that the people on here who demand it the most, dismiss it when it's used to bash certain groups of people.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:37 pm

And I find it ironic that those who constantly say "it's just a joke" can't take a single joke when they're the butt of it. Do you honestly believe he was entirely serious? Seriously?

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:38 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Remind me of the last time a white guy was killed by a western police officer for being white.

If the best you can do is cite a stupid MTV advert as evidence that anti-white racism is as bad as racism suffered by non-whites then i think all you've done is prove my point.

The word you're looking for is prevalent, in which case you'd be right. However if you do think it's not as bad then you're wrong.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:39 pm

Damo, I wasn't being entirely serious as IT says.

You can tell I'm being serious when I type stuff with my serious face on.

I can't have it on when a thread goes like this, or I'd get really annoyed!

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:43 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:And I find it ironic that those who constantly say "it's just a joke" can't take a single joke when they're the butt of it. Do you honestly believe he was entirely serious? Seriously?

so your saying it's fine to joke about certain demographics?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:46 pm

Damo wrote:so your saying it's fine to joke about certain demographics?

I'm saying it's fine to joke about any demographic.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:50 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:The word you're looking for is prevalent, in which case you'd be right. However if you do think it's not as bad then you're wrong.

Pick a random black guy and a random white guy, in the UK. In their lives which do you think will have been the victim of racism the most?

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:51 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I'm saying it's fine to joke about any demographic.

Good.
Prove it by drawing a funny picture of the prophet mohammed and posting it here

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:01 pm

Damo wrote:Good.
Prove it by drawing a funny picture of the prophet mohammed and posting it here

I think your post constitutes attempted murder.

I couldn't think of anything funny to draw that i could adequately portray without a Wacom tablet.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:20 pm

What I find strange is the number of muslims living here seemingly unwilling to accept the western way. I'd be strung up and burnt alive for being White British in daylight in many of the muslim countries, some muslims dont understand how easy they have it in Britain.

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:27 pm

KRBFC wrote:...I'd be strung up and burnt alive for being White British in daylight in many of the muslim countries...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XkCBhKs4faI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:33 pm

Greenmile wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XkCBhKs4faI

Exactly what I thought when I read that.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:35 pm

Damo wrote:Good.
Prove it by drawing a funny picture of the prophet mohammed and posting it here

To be fair to IT, he doesn't suffer from the typical liberal blind spot when it comes to Islam.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:40 pm

You're confusing left-wing and liberalism.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:43 pm

Greenmile wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XkCBhKs4faI

I saw what you quoted and before knew what your link was i went looking for the very same video.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:21 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:You're confusing left-wing and liberalism.

Yeah, maybe. The former usually identify as the latter so it's hard to distinguish away from a definition.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:24 pm

Well, i think even i was a little wrong. I'd say all (or almost all) liberals are left-wingers but not all left-wingers are liberals.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:25 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Well, i think even i was a little wrong. I'd say all (or almost all) liberals are left-wingers but not all left-wingers are liberals.

I'd definitely agree with that.

BurnleySYS · Post by **BurnleySYS** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:27 pm

Shame but Burnley is one of the most racist towns in England.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:31 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Remind me of the last time a white guy was killed by a western police officer for being white.

If the best you can do is cite a stupid MTV advert as evidence that anti-white racism is as bad as racism suffered by non-whites then i think all you've done is prove my point.

Denouncing a video which was actually broadcast on a national TV station, which specifically was racist to white males, as a stupid advert. All because it doesn't suit your argument.

Feel free to show me any object examples where a western police officer has killed a black person purely for being black, then I'll be happy to take your argument on board.

A nice occasion where I get to call IT an idiot.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:33 pm

Darthlaw wrote:Denouncing a video which was actually broadcast on a national TV station, which specifically was racist to white males, as a stupid advert. All because it doesn't suit your argument.

Feel free to show me any object examples where a western police officer has killed a black person, purely for being black, then I'll be happy to take your argument on board.

A nice occasion where I get to call IT an idiot.

So I agree with you about that advert and that makes me an idiot?

ok.

That advert isn't even an object example of racism. I can link plenty of examples of police killing unarmed black people but you'd complain that none of them was because of race. This is the problem with racism, it's hard to read the minds of people, we can only interpret it from actions and it's a matter of opinion that there are many killings in the US by white police officers on black civilians where the victim isn't even armed let alone a threat.

I originally linked the Danziger Bridge Shootings as an example of racist police killing black people, but it turns out that two of the police were black. Not that black people can't be racist against black people, they probably were, but it does make it much less certain so i've removed the link.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:46 pm

A shooting from 12 years ago vs an advert which was released in January.

Yep - clearly racism against blacks is rife and still massively worse than prejudice against whites. Let me know when you find the incitement from the media against black people In a similar vein.

Unfortunately until you can admit there is a problem, you can't begin to find the solution. That is why white males will continue to be the acceptable bogey man in society who is always to blame.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:50 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Unfortunately until you can admit there is a problem, you can't begin to find the solution. That is why white males will continue to be the acceptable bogey man in society who is always to blame.

Now you're just making up bullshit. I never said it wasn't a problem, but it's nothing close to the size of the problem racism against black and brown people poses. It's a fantasy that it is.

A shooting from 12 years ago vs an advert which was released in January.

Do you honestly not see how ******* insane this is? You're saying that an advert on a TV channel is more important than shootings in terms of how serious the problem of racism is for each race. You're delusional.
Or maybe it's because the deaths of black people to racism matters less to you than the hurt feelings of white people because of an advert. I don't think this for a second but will you please think about this? Black deaths versus white hurt feelings. Which is more serious?

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:09 pm

I'm saying an advert on a national tv station targeting a racial group, which was deemed suitable to air, is pretty serious in today's society. In my opinion it's just as bad, if not worse, than a couple of racist cops twelve years ago. National racial incitement vs isolated black deaths due to racism. Think about that.

If you're happy to brush it off as silly, not as serious or throw the Rodney King beating in for good measure and that's your prerogative. It's just easy to see why the likes of Trump, UKIP and other right leaning groups are gaining traction when apologists such as you are the more vocal group.

Whilst you're thinking, maybe it might be an idea to compare how many black people have been killed in the USA by black people, as posed to those killed by whites. You might find the statistics surprising.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:22 pm

White men can't jump..
White people can't dance..
Captain kirk is the coolest white man on the planet - Eddie Murphy, implying white men can't be as cool as black men..

Just 3 things I find annoying off the top of my head..

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:27 pm

Darthlaw wrote:I'm saying an advert on a national to station targeting a racial group, which was deemed suitable to air, is pretty serious in today's society. In my opinion it's just as bad, if not worse, than a couple of racist cops twelve years ago. National racial incitement vs isolated black deaths due to racism. Think about that.

If you're happy to brush it off as silly, not as serious or throw the Rodney King beating in for good measure and that's your prerogative. It's just easy to see why the likes of Trump, UKIP and other right leaning groups are gaining traction when apologists such as you are the more vocal group.

So wait a minute, i'm an apologist for something even though i've condemned it?

It's easy to see why the likes of Trump, UKIP and other right leaning groups are gaining traction when you try to tell everyone that white hurt feelings is the equivalent to black people being killed. I'll give you another chance and say i still don't think you actually believe this, but the more you imply that to be true the more you make me think you value black lives so little.

But about the advert, you honestly think it's trying to incite racial hatred? Did you even watch it? Do you honestly not understand that it was at least trying to communicate to people how they can avoid appearing racist? It did it in a stupid way but I am amazed at how moronic you have to be to think that it was "incitement". It's almost as if you don't have a ******* clue what the word means.

If you think that white people suffer racism to the same extent as black people and that they are problems of equal size then fine, you're ******* delusional, but OK.

Black up for an afternoon and visit some expensive shops and see how much more "attention" you get, because racism doesn't only come in the form of violence. It comes through every day experiences. I'm white so i've never experienced having eyes follow me around a shop simply because i'm white, but you ask any black person (especially in the US) if the same is true for them and you'll find they have a much different experience.