How did this racist animal avoid jail?

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:31 pm

Watch 'american history X', that solves everything..

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:33 pm

Great film .. It still makes me cringe when he kerbstepped him..

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:35 pm

conyoviejo wrote:Great film .. It still makes me cringe when he kerbstepped him..

Relax Alfie, I'm sure it was a dummy..

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:39 pm

Darthlaw wrote: Whilst you're thinking, maybe it might be an idea to compare how many black people have been killed in the USA by black people, as posed to those killed by whites. You might find the statistics surprising.

That has absolutely no bearing on this discussion. Unless you are suggesting that there'd only be a racism problem in the US if white people killed black people at the same rate as black people killed black people. I'm not sure how that is remotely logical, but then i'm not sure you're aiming for a logical discussion any more.

Some more facts.

Black people in America use drugs at about the same rates as white people, but they're far, far more likely to see prison time for it than white people.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/st ... es-blacks/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And it's not just drug related crimes for which their sentences are harsher.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... e-arreste/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Poor white people because of an advert though

That's literally the same as the justice system treating you much harsher than others. Bless our little cotton socks, cotton picked by white slaves, probably. We're so oppressed.

Ightenclaret · Post by **Ightenclaret** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:25 am

RingoMcCartney wrote:It's beyond belief.

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/crim ... -1-8401470" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

An acute psychosis can often appear incredulous to the uninitiated.
Others would opportunistically seek to use it to foment division amongst us...

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:18 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Pick a random black guy and a random white guy, in the UK. In their lives which do you think will have been the victim of racism the most?

Which just goes to prove that you do think it's alright to racially abuse someone, so long as your black. What happened to this equality.
Mind boggling.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:28 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:Which just goes to prove that you do think it's alright to racially abuse someone, so long as your black. What happened to this equality.
Mind boggling.

what? You think that acknowledging that black people suffer more from racism than white people = thinking it's OK to be racist if you're black?

Please don't reproduce.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:21 am

Wypipo

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:53 am

Turtle is too busy point scoring/counting for each side to realise that both issues are as serious as the other. His opinion does illustrate quite nicely why racism against white people isn't seen as serious though.

From my initial point about the advert targeting white males he's first responded by calling it a 'silly advert', then responded by saying he initially agreed it was wrong (despite not mentioning that previously although my mind reading machine is broken at the moment). On his third response he's even tried to insinuate that I value black lives less because I've pointed out the disparity between what is seemingly tolerable racial targeting vs whites and that which is not, again passing off the advert as some sort of 'guide for white males not to appear racist'.

Final thought, as I'm not arguing with him anymore, how would the advert have been received if it had been any of the following:
2017 resolutions for Muslim Men
2017 resolutions for Jewish Women
2017 resolutions for Afro Caribbean Men

Something tells me the member of staff suggesting them would have been fired, let alone the advert see broadcast but hey, white guys are fair target aren't they?

I did enjoy his racist cops link, however, who were in fact black themselves. Before he quickly deleted the link and announced the cops were 'probably black people racist against black people'.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:02 am

Darthlaw wrote: ...
From my initial point about the advert targeting white males he's first responded by calling it a 'silly advert', ...

If you have to lie about someone by making up quotes that haven't said then i think it's pretty clear that you've lost the argument. (Edit: you've even edited your post to falsify another quote. lol)

Black people face racism in all aspects of their lives from simply being surveilled more while shopping to more serious examples of racism through stop & search laws that disproportionatly target black people, and can even be proven to experience harsher prison sentences than white people for the same crimes.
Your example of anti-white racism being an equally serious problem to all this was one TV advert on one TV channel that was ridiculed immediately by all sides of the debate. And now you're resorting to lying about the person with whom you're disagreeing. You're an embarrassment.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:06 am

Post#70 dipstick. Oh and it was 'stupid advert'.

And you're laughable attempts to paint me as racist here are equally hilarious. Now I'm off before you clog this thread up any further with your bile.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:07 am

Darthlaw wrote:Post#70 dipstick. Oh and it was 'stupid advert'.

And you're laughable attempts to paint me as racist here are equally hilarious. Now I'm off before you clog this thread up any further with your bile.

Woah, i've tried to paint you as a racist now?

Paranoid much?

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:11 am

He is priceless our resident george galloway wannabee.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:12 am

A typically uncritical, unengaged comment, Claretdom.

Why not weigh-in? Do you think white people experience racism as much as black people do?

Edit: typo

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:14 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:A typically uncritical, unengaged comment, Claretdom.

Why not weigh-in? Do you white people experience racism as much as black people do?

Do you white people ? Good job I don't take offence at comments like that.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:15 am

claretdom wrote:Do you white people ? Good job I don't take offence at comments like that.

I've corrected the typo, would you like to answer the question? Or are you worried that on this particular subject you and I might actually agree on something, and you can't stomach such a notion?

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:16 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:I've corrected the typo, would you like to answer the question?

Ahh, you came so close to saying you made an mistake.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:17 am

claretdom wrote:Ahh, you came so close to saying you made an mistake.

Are you saying a typo isn't a mistake?

Come on. Do you think white people experience racism as much as black people?

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:19 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Are you saying a typo isn't a mistake?

I am saying you came close to saying you made a mistake but decided calling it a typo was more preferred, that's all. Don't worry about though you crack on being offended on other peoples behalf it's something to read with a coffee.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:21 am

claretdom wrote:I am saying you came close to saying you made a mistake but decided calling it a typo was more preferred, that's all. Don't worry about though you crack on being offended on other peoples behalf it's something to read with a coffee.

I'll accept this as evidence that you agree with me because if you didn't you'd be in a hurry to say so.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:22 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:I'll accept this as evidence that you agree with me because if you didn't you'd be in a hurry to say so.

Knock yourself out with that.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:25 am

Imploding Turtle wrote: Come on. Do you think white people experience racism as much as black people?

In the UK no they don't, but it does happen dependent on where you're located.
I've been called a White ******* whilst walking through Brierfield one night
There was an occasion when I went away once and left my wife home alone.
They tormented her, tried to break in and called her allsorts of names one night, she ended up ringing my dad and he had to send someone round to keep an eye on her.

Racism happens both ways, it's fairly common knowledge, but it does go one way more then the other.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:32 am

Was the point being made, way back up the thread, not about who suffers the most from racism (in terms of reported or unreported incidents), but that racism, whoever it is aimed at, is equally as bad?

Ask a white person who lives in a black community and I'd guess that the racial abuse that they receive is of a similar level to a black person living in a white community, in most instances.

I've been into Asian shops in Bradford and have felt as though all eyes are on me, perhaps as a black or Asian person may do in a shop in a 'white area'.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:36 am

I still can't see where anyone said black people face less racism than white people.
I think the point Darthlaw made was that it's socially acceptable for people to be racist against white people.
Especially white men.
Not only is it socially acceptable, it's trendy to discriminate against straight white males.
Search for 'old male and pale' on twitter to see how cool it is amongst the hipsters to cover racism, sexism and ageism in one trendy comment

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:45 am

DCWat wrote:Was the point being made, way back up the thread, not about who suffers the most from racism (in terms of reported or unreported incidents), but that racism, whoever it is aimed at, is equally as bad?

Ask a white person who lives in a black community and I'd guess that the racial abuse that they receive is of a similar level to a black person living in a white community, in most instances.

I've been into Asian shops in Bradford and have felt as though all eyes are on me, perhaps as a black or Asian person may do in a shop in a 'white area'.

You make good points in paragraphs two and three of your post but no, the argument was that they are equally serious problems.

I accept that there is almost certainly anti-white racism in areas of high ethnic minorities, particularly when one minority is most prevalent in that community, but those communities themselves when added up are still a small minority of all communities. And that's before we look at the more serious forms of racism that come from employers and government. I can't imagine white people fearing having their job applications rejected because of their name, or being racially profiled, or worrying about facing harsher sentencing because of their skin colour. And this is why i think it's absolutely ridiculous to think that the two problems are of equal size.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:46 am

Damo wrote:I still can't see where anyone said black people face less racism than white people.

What? No one has even said anyone has said that. I think you've misinterpreted the debate.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:17 am

I hope someone in south shields "sorts" this man out

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:21 am

So if he's killed as a result of you posting this, you'd be content ?
Wow.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:27 am

"WOW" where does it say he should be killed ?????????, but on the other hand if he had spat in my daughters face by the time i'd had finished with him he would wish he was.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:34 am

Do you not think posting an image of the guy might not tempt some knuckle-dragger to take the law into his own hands ?
It's unlikely, possibly, but I'd still argue that you've no right to post this. The bloke's been dealt with by the courts but clearly that's not enough for some.
To be honest, you have actually incited violence against this bloke. Dangerous territory ,legally, some might say.
I'm not sure the mods will be too happy if/when they spot this.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:40 am

The picture was taken by the Newcastle chronicicle newspaper and posted online and also printed its already out there, google the scums name, its not like i knocked on his door took the pic myself and posted it. if he wants to keep a low profile and not have his name and picture printed in all media then he should STAY OUT OF THE ******* NEWS this is at least the 3rd time he's done this.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:44 am

Absolutely right but the paper should have known better and, as I say, the bloke has been dealt with. Are all criminals in the Newcastle area pursued like this ? No ? How strange.
This kind of voyeurism just appeals to the lynch-mob mentality - the "I'd do time for him" brigade.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:47 am

And they're usually thugs or bullshi££ers.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:53 am

"To be honest, you have actually incited violence against this bloke"...................Did I ?????

sorted could mean many things, could mean kick his head in but could also mean sort out a trap to catch him doing this again and filming him so next time he does gets sent down, after all this is at least his 3rd time.

Sorted also means, to handle the problem and to find the resolution of it. Basicly, to deal with something, so try and sort out his behavior by counselling and so on.

you read into "sorted" in your own little way

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:58 am

It's amazing how some people get so offended by a picture of a criminal on a message board.
It's almost as though posting his picture is worse than his spitting in babies faces antics

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:06 am

********, damo, and you know it. You're just being stupid and lazy now.

So, you didn't mean anything connected with violence, agent ? That's lame but, hey, whatever.

I told you they were thugs or bullshi££ers....

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:13 am

Imploding Turtle wrote: what? You think that acknowledging that black people suffer more from racism than white people = thinking it's OK to be racist if you're black?

Please don't reproduce.

I wish you would try reading posts before you jump numpty.

You said that black racism wasn't as bad as white racism.

I said do you mean prevalent , or do you mean that it's not as bad.

You replied that it's not as bad. I didn't realise that your education didn't get past year 8, or I wouldn't have bothered having trying to put you right.
Whoosh.

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:30 am

Just posted this on the Stoops thread and thought it deserved an airing on here.

"I was brought up in Stoneyholme in the 60s. Best part of Burnley then IMO. As has been said, a total no-go zone now. I wouldn't even drive through it. My parents were forced out of Stoneyholme in the early 80s through intimidation. All the protagonists on the baby spitting thread should have talked to my late dad. He could have told them what it was really like."

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:35 am

Ightenclaret wrote:An acute psychosis can often appear incredulous to the uninitiated.
Others would opportunistically seek to use it to foment division amongst us...

"Fomenting division"

Because spitting in an infants face and screaming at a vulnerable young mother "white people shouldn't be allowed to breed " is promoting community cohesion!!!

Some quality, playing the man not the ball there mate!!

Good effort!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:41 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:I wish you would try reading posts before you jump numpty.

You said that black racism wasn't as bad as white racism.

I said do you mean prevalent , or do you mean that it's not as bad.

You replied that it's not as bad. I didn't realise that your education didn't get past year 8, or I wouldn't have bothered having trying to put you right.
Whoosh.

It looks as though you've just been told to "don't reproduce"

That sounds very familiar.

"White people shouldn't be allowed to breed"

The absolute hypocritical, deluded , left wing , radicalised mass immigrationist, anglophobic irony!!

You really couldn't make it up!!

What a way to start the weekend!!

Ethno masochism at its pitiful finest.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:31 pm

Wipe your mouth, ringo, you're foaming again.
Nowt like generalisations, eh ? Can't beat 'em.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:54 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:"WOW" where does it say he should be killed ?????????, but on the other hand if he had spat in my daughters face by the time i'd had finished with him he would wish he was.

I second that mate.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:33 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:"To be honest, you have actually incited violence against this bloke"...................Did I ?????

sorted could mean many things, could mean kick his head in but could also mean sort out a trap to catch him doing this again and filming him so next time he does gets sent down, after all this is at least his 3rd time.

Sorted also means, to handle the problem and to find the resolution of it. Basicly, to deal with something, so try and sort out his behavior by counselling and so on.

you read into "sorted" in your own little way

I was going to take him a bag of whizz, 6 e's and a gram of coke. That's what I thought you meant by sorted.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:34 pm

far too much chest thumping on this thread and not enough understanding of what people are trying to say. This frequently happens on this message board, if you were all discussing this face to face and able to read body language this wouldn't escalate into the futile playground antics that it has. It is a shame, because I can empathise with almost all the comments from posters on here, I don't necessarily agree with them, but empathise none the less.

Healeywoodclaret · Post by **Healeywoodclaret** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:52 pm

Rileybobs wrote:This incident goes a long way to proving the hatred the people of the North-East have towards women and children.

Lived on the North East have you? Know anything about life in the North East or life in the wilds of Northumberland? No I thought not.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:00 pm

Well, that worked well, Rick...

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:25 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:I wish you would try reading posts before you jump numpty.

You said that black racism wasn't as bad as white racism.

I said do you mean prevalent , or do you mean that it's not as bad.

You replied that it's not as bad. I didn't realise that your education didn't get past year 8, or I wouldn't have bothered having trying to put you right.
Whoosh.

I pretty sure I never said that the racism wasn't as bad, I said the problem wasn't as bad.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:20 pm

So we're all agreed everyone hates everyone else, the amount just depends on the skin colour?

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:44 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Remind me of the last time a white guy was killed by a western police officer for being white.

If the best you can do is cite a stupid MTV advert as evidence that anti-white racism is as bad as racism suffered by non-whites then i think all you've done is prove my point.

Not what you said at all, but I'm happy to accept you meant it the right way.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:52 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:Not what you said at all, but I'm happy to accept you meant it the right way.

Fair enough, I appreciate that you understand how I meant it. Others would try to point score based on what they know isn't what I meant.