The Stoops Estate

BurnleySYS · Post by **BurnleySYS** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:23 pm

Just moved up here from Colne. Heard alot of negative things but it seems a really nice place to live(Been here 3 days).

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:24 pm

Not as bad as people make out.

Was bad back in the day

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:28 pm

Like most old estates with a name, a lot of it is history now.
There's probably still some bell ends about, but if you get on with the right people in places you're usually fine.

The Rezo in Rhyl used to be so bad the police were forbidden to patrol on foot and could only patrol in cars/vans so long as there were a minimum of two officers.

Nowadays its a lot calmer because the old divs have either moved, passed away or are to old to be divs.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:32 pm

cutsy123 wrote:Not as bad as people make out.

Was bad back in the day

Yeah, but BurnleySYS lives there now, soo...

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:36 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Yeah, but BurnleySYS lives there now, soo...

... a Colombian blizzard and Dyche out posters soon to be all o'er shop?

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:11 pm

Dare I say that Stoops seems to have improved significantly since a lot of Poles,Ukrainians etc have moved onto the estate?
(Might just be coincidental of course).

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:24 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Dare I say that Stoops seems to have improved significantly since a lot of Poles,Ukrainians etc have moved onto the estate?
(Might just be coincidental of course).

No.

It's improved because some of the nutters who used to be there have been moved out to all areas in Pendle.

Let Nelson, Brierfield and Padiham deal with them.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:35 pm

Shameless thread

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:47 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Dare I say that Stoops seems to have improved significantly since a lot of Poles,Ukrainians etc have moved onto the estate?
(Might just be coincidental of course).

"Bloody Poles, comin' over 'ere, being all Polish and mending everything. Comin' over 'ere, fixing all the stuff we've broken and were too illiterate to read the instructions for, doing it better than us in a second language. Bloody Poles."

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:54 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:No.

It's improved because some of the nutters who used to be there have been moved out to all areas in Pendle.

Let Nelson, Brierfield and Padiham deal with them.

So has the large Eastern European community up there caused a lot of problems then? My understanding is that it's all relatively trouble-free nowadays, and when I go up there to visit a family, I feel quite comfortable.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:07 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:So has the large Eastern European community up there caused a lot of problems then?

Probably.

If you get large numbers of different people in one area there's always going to be problems, such is human nature.

Any road I'm not on about that. long before the Eastern Europeans turned up a lot of the nutters were moved out and were settled in other towns in Burnley and Pendle.

We're talking about 10 to 15 years ago here.

The Stoops has gradually been declining in (proper) nutters for quite a while now.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:18 pm

When I was a scuffer, I caught my first prisoner on Stoops. Happy days.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:34 pm

Stoops or shadsworth? What's the worst? Only one way to find out..

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:45 pm

I suppose it depends on where you live!

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:46 pm

BennyD wrote:When I was a scuffer, I caught my first prisoner on Stoops. Happy days.

Thought you had an air of filth about you!

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:36 am

Only when dealing with scumbags. It was a very informative part of my life which made me realise that it was much better to move up and away than remain in the area.

burnleyboy · Post by **burnleyboy** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:09 am

Never owt wrong with Stoops ! Was born and bred there. Fantastic people throughout the estate who cared for the community It was a perfect springboard for my global professional endeavours! UTC

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:36 am

Live on cog Lane, it's fine and has been for at least 15 years.

Only one pole I know if on the street and he's lived here about 2 years. So if it's because of him he must have a time machine.

Claretforever · Post by **Claretforever** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:42 am

The trouble up that area of town was around 1990-91 ish wasn't it? That going up for 30 years ago...wow, times flies.

In response to the hill troll, I think Shadsworth has had far more recent problems, hence the Panorama documentary a few years ago. Was it 2012?

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cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:08 am

Ive played footie at shadsworth a few times. Its poverty at its finest

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:25 am

Shadsworth makes Stoops look loike Beverley Hills these days.

FulledgeClaret · Post by **FulledgeClaret** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:37 am

Not that bad an area now, it does still have its scrotes but where doesn't most annoying thing is the muppets on field bikes flying around when the weather improves that said the police are cracking down on that.

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:24 am

its rough as hell. probably the roughest area in Burnley. the majority of drug dealers and junkies live on the stoops and not to mention the thieving ASBO ****. good luck

FulledgeClaret · Post by **FulledgeClaret** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:04 am

pushpinpussy wrote:its rough as hell. probably the roughest area in Burnley. the majority of drug dealers and junkies live on the stoops and not to mention the thieving ASBO ****. good luck

Absolute rubbish- lived up stoops for 10yr now not once has my car or house been burgled lived up Brunshaw for a couple of yrs car broken into twice house burgled once, lived up Harle Syke car vandalised once and had numerous bikes stolen from garage, Stoneyholme is a no go area once its dark, drug dealing is rife in Burnley Wood and you say Stoops is the worst are in Burnley.

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:28 am

I've always given Stoops a wide berth, partly due to its reputation and partly due to never having a reason to ever go there but I'd consider giving Brunshaw the award for area that has declined the most since the turn of the millennium. It seems to have coincided with the regeneration of Burnley Wood, where I'm currently lodging with a mate in one of the new builds and it's so much of an improvement on 10-15 years ago when I would have thought twice about even walking through. I'm guessing a lot of the bad eggs from the old Burnley Wood have moved into Brunshaw, hence the current issues up there.

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:28 am

I was brought up in Stoneyholme in the 60s. Best part of Burnley then IMO. As has been said, a total no-go zone now. I wouldn't even drive through it. My parents were forced out of Stoneyholme in the early 80s through intimidation. All the protagonists on the baby spitting thread should have talked to my late dad. He could have told them what it was really like.

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:52 am

I remember there was a lad from Stoneyholme at Giggleswick in the 70's; little bloke but hard as nails. My aunt was distraught when her daughter moved in with a boyfriend in Stoneyholme.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:54 am

Most areas in Burnley have their share of scroats - and Stoops definitely does. The most notorious family of car thieves in Burnley lives in Stoops.

Of course in all these areas there are good people aswell as bad. In terms of which area is the worst in Burnley I don't think having a debate about this is going to help as it's all down to personal experience. As can be seen on this thread you have people who were born in Stoops or live there now saying it's absolutely fine (for them) and then you have people who have had their cars stolen from a family who has being doing this for years and live on the estate.

I grew up at top of Cog Lane / Rossie Road area and we used to knock about sometimes in Bleak House - and "bleakies" were rough but it was a poor area with lots of council housing - I can't remember what exactly separated Bleak House from Stoops but I know we never went down Stoops as that was a whole different level of poverty....and you would definitely get a kick in down there.

That said a good kick from a few Stoops lads would be a pleasant day out compared to what they get up to these days.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:09 am

pushpinpussy wrote:its rough as hell. probably the roughest area in Burnley. the majority of drug dealers and junkies live on the stoops and not to mention the thieving ASBO ****. good luck

Parts of duke bar and around the parliament street area of bwood take that award

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:14 am

cutsy123 wrote:Parts of duke bar and around the parliament street area of bwood take that award

The Duke Bar Elbow - The practice of pushing down the locking pin on the inside of the car door with your elbow.

Lived near Stoops Estate as a lad (off Coal Clough Lane between Scott Park and Cog Lane).

Had a few runs in due to associations with friends up Rosehill, standard teenager stuff.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:49 am

About 10 years ago I worked just off stoops for quite a few months and never seen anything untoward (during the day) but when we moved on to Burnley Wood that was a whole different ball game. It made Moss Side look like Beverley Hills.

ten bellies · Post by **ten bellies** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:21 pm

Not too long ago my nephew moved onto Coal Clough Lane. Four lads walked into their house uninvited, made threats and stole his motorbike. They were off Stoops. Money had to be paid to retrieve said bike. Salt of the earth.

Siddo · Post by **Siddo** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:33 pm

I lived on Stoops for years. My mum and dad both lived there until they died. I played football on Cherry Fold with lads from Bleak House, Hargher Clough Estate and Accy Road.

We had no bother really. Nobody had anything so I suppose there was nothing to steal. There was the odd fight because we stuck up for ourselves, but they were fair fist fights.

I remember flying back from holiday when the riots were happening and the plane showed a video of the main news from the last 2 weeks. It showed the riots, and my eldest lad shouted "dad, grandma's house is on the telly!" I looked up and a car was on fire outside our house. That was slightly embarrassing.

Even after that, once everything calmed down I still think it was ok. We never had any problems and my mum and dad loved it.

I go to the dentist on Venice Avenue and it always seems ok driving through the old place. Mind you some of the crew that drank on Accy Road were hard as nails, so maybe thats why it was trouble free most of the time. Some great footballers came from Stoops as well. At least 3 were signed on for professional clubs, didn't quite make it and went on to play semi pro.

Terrier · Post by **Terrier** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:41 pm

Stoops in the 60s and 70s was great,most worked and looked after their own not so sure now as i don't go near,drank on accrington road most of the 80s and the place was full of characters a lot now sadly not here, a few still live on the stoops but a lot i know are spread all over burnley now.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:49 pm

Lived on Stoops for a number of years in the late sixties and all of the seventies and early eighties. When we moved on there at first and for at least ten years it was wonderful, great neighbours, who's got the best garden competitions (honestly) people who worked hard as my mum and dad did and grew veg in gardens, mowed lawns, swept the pavement in front of your house, there was always a few problems on Florence and Tiber but nothing much. Then Burnley council the bastions of socialism and looking after working class people decided that Stoops needed anti social families from other estates all in one area so they chose Stoops, the F***ing sniveling sociology A level London centric tw@ts who influenced and took over the party that was built to look after working people inflicted vermin on working people and supported their right to be vermin, didnt matter that an all night party made you knackered at work through lack of sleep from your "neighbour" what mattered more was their right of expression and their right to breed and breed and breed more labour voters paid for by your taxes to subsidise their decision to have annuver kid cos Daz bought them a bacardi and coke in the Gretna.
Stoops was wonderful and I have happy memories until labour lost its true purpose and inflicted social engineering on it (but not obviously where the labour elite live)

cloughyclaret · Post by **cloughyclaret** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:55 pm

As the username would suggest, I'm just up the road. Never any problems with the 'Stoopsers' in 15 years.

Dressinggown · Post by **Dressinggown** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:09 pm

TVC15 wrote:Most areas in Burnley have their share of scroats - and Stoops definitely does. The most notorious family of car thieves in Burnley lives in Stoops.

Of course in all these areas there are good people aswell as bad. In terms of which area is the worst in Burnley I don't think having a debate about this is going to help as it's all down to personal experience. As can be seen on this thread you have people who were born in Stoops or live there now saying it's absolutely fine (for them) and then you have people who have had their cars stolen from a family who has being doing this for years and live on the estate.

I grew up at top of Cog Lane / Rossie Road area and we used to knock about sometimes in Bleak House - and "bleakies" were rough but it was a poor area with lots of council housing - I can't remember what exactly separated Bleak House from Stoops but I know we never went down Stoops as that was a whole different level of poverty....and you would definitely get a kick in down there.

That said a good kick from a few Stoops lads would be a pleasant day out compared to what they get up to these days.

Coal Clough Lane separated Stoops from Bleak House. The roads down Stoops were named after Italian towns whilst those on Bleak House were Scottish.

Sandwiched in between the estates was Hargher Estate which was where it went off in the 80's.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:32 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:its rough as hell. probably the roughest area in Burnley. the majority of drug dealers and junkies live on the stoops and not to mention the thieving ASBO ****. good luck

No way. Possibly still a bit rough especially at night. But leyland road is easily the roughest, scummiest street in Burnley. Far worse than I imagined it was. The only reason you wouldnt get any **** down there is because they are all so off their heads they dont know what day it is. Really rough down there. Shame as the houses and the area could be decent. Feel for the people who have lived there years.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:34 pm

Chobulous wrote:I was brought up in Stoneyholme in the 60s. Best part of Burnley then IMO. As has been said, a total no-go zone now. I wouldn't even drive through it. My parents were forced out of Stoneyholme in the early 80s through intimidation. All the protagonists on the baby spitting thread should have talked to my late dad. He could have told them what it was really like.

My dad was from Stoneyholme in the 50s and 60s. Whilst the areas totally different now I wouldnt say its a no go area. I have friends up there and go through stoneyholme a lot and eat up there with friends and its fine.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:37 pm

SammyBoy wrote:I've always given Stoops a wide berth, partly due to its reputation and partly due to never having a reason to ever go there but I'd consider giving Brunshaw the award for area that has declined the most since the turn of the millennium. It seems to have coincided with the regeneration of Burnley Wood, where I'm currently lodging with a mate in one of the new builds and it's so much of an improvement on 10-15 years ago when I would have thought twice about even walking through. I'm guessing a lot of the bad eggs from the old Burnley Wood have moved into Brunshaw, hence the current issues up there.

This poster had nailed it. Im originally from brunshaw and mrs burnley wood. The improvement in Burnley wood and decline in brunshaw has been remarkable. In fact it cooincides with her coming up my way. I see more than a coincidence here

in seriousness though when you move all the scumbags on they have to go somewhere and they all went up brunshaw.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:38 pm

I think he meant it's a no go zone if you spend your life petrified of them there muslimanics.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:56 pm

No way. Possibly still a bit rough especially at night. But leyland road is easily the roughest, scummiest street in Burnley. Far worse than I imagined it was. The only reason you wouldnt get any **** down there is because they are all so off their heads they dont know what day it is. Really rough down there. Shame as the houses and the area could be decent. Feel for the people who have lived there years.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:00 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:I think he meant it's a no go zone if you spend your life petrified of them there muslimanics.

Stoneyholmes fine. But then i spent all my school days at barden as the only white las there*

*NB this isnt true. Its just what everyone says who had never even been near the school let alone to it.

chipbutty · Post by **chipbutty** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:09 am

FulledgeClaret wrote:Absolute rubbish- lived up stoops for 10yr now not once has my car or house been burgled lived up Brunshaw for a couple of yrs car broken into twice house burgled once, lived up Harle Syke car vandalised once and had numerous bikes stolen from garage, Stoneyholme is a no go area once its dark, drug dealing is rife in Burnley Wood and you say Stoops is the worst are in Burnley.

No offence, but you don`t **** on your own doorstep. Just cos Kensington is posh. doesn`t mean it won`t get robbed.

chipbutty · Post by **chipbutty** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:12 am

chipbutty wrote:No offence, but you don`t **** on your own doorstep. Just cos Kensington is posh. doesn`t mean it won`t get robbed.

P.S. I was born and bread up Stoops from 1972 to 1982

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:30 am

chipbutty wrote:P.S. I was born and bread up Stoops from 1972 to 1982

Warburtons bread ?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:52 am

Dazzler wrote:Warburtons bread ?

His username.

Six fingers · Post by **Six fingers** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:42 pm

Met a chap in London he said he used to live in Burnley.where abouts I asked stoops he said o right I said . bloke across the road robbed me then I moved going back to 1989

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:55 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:when you move all the scumbags on they have to go somewhere

This is what I said when Burnley Wood were knocking down buildings and I think you're absolutely spot on. It's fine building houses that none of them will ever be able to afford, but where do they go?

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:00 pm

FactualFrank wrote:This is what I said when Burnley Wood were knocking down buildings and I think you're absolutely spot on. It's fine building houses that none of them will ever be able to afford, but where do they go?

Over 50% of the houses built are renters and me and you pay the rent.
Sorry you and i pay the rent.