"Enough is Enough" tough talking.

[HOPE AND GLORY]

Winston Chirchill 1898 the river wars

[boatshed bill]

I look at the quote "enough is enough" and question it, was the last attack no enough then Treesa?

[2 Bee Holed]

I look at the quote "enough is enough" and question it, was the last attack no enough then Treesa?

Excellent point.
Clearly Manchester wasn't enough, but London Bridge is.
I am genuinely confused and worried by the timing of her comment.
Children in Manchester wasn't but Adults in London is, WHY?

[Dom]

She's shown she's incompetent as both Home Sec and Prime minister in protecting the people. She presided over police cuts, including the loss of 1,200 armed police. She has a f*cking cheek to say "enough is enough" when it's partly her fault the police are at breaking point.
https://twitter.com/WillBlackWriter/sta ... 7622085632" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - police warned her of this years ago.

I'll be more worried with her in charge as PM than Corbyn the pacifist. At least Corbyn is willing to spend money on getting more police on the street. We might stand a fighting chance if we can do proactive police work rather than reacting to the latest atrocity.

[Claret-On-A-T-Rex]

Sorry, I should have said overseas Commonwealth immigration, as you are no doubt aware.

Want to narrow it down even further to suit your witless agenda?

Don't forget, in the 80's the terrorists were Irish, much like half the population of the town are descended from.

Blaming immigration for the terror attacks simply reveals your own racist attitudes.

[claretandy]

Couldn't have put it better myself .

[Jakubclaret]

Be careful what you wish for Bee Holed. If Corbyn gets in. He'll let more terrorists in and opposes shoot to kill. He'd rather the police disarm terrorists with poetry and flowers.

Or Corbyn realises that bloodshed leads to more bloodshed & never really ends. He wants to try a completely different approach regarding our foreign policy & ways of not curing a problem actually preventing it happening in the very first place at least reducing it.

[2 Bee Holed]

Or Corbyn realises that bloodshed leads to more bloodshed & never really ends. He wants to try a completely different approach regarding our foreign policy & ways of not curing a problem actually preventing it happening in the very first place at least reducing it.

Furthermore; when she came to the podium outside number 10 yesterday, that is when she should have displayed "Strong and Stable leadership".
I have been thinking back about what she had to say, what did she mean
"root out terrorism in the Public Sector"? WTF
Are all these terrorists nurses, teachers, firemen, police officers and DWP?

[evensteadiereddie]

I think she looks absolutely knackered, just a tired, old lady. Even when she's trying to pretend to be resolute, she seems feeble and completely unconvincing.
She won't be PM for long.

[whereeaglesfly]

Theresa is not going down well within her own Party at the moment and the knives will be out for her if she doesn't do really well on Thursday. One of Camerons main advisers is even calling on her to resign because of her cutting the police force and thereby contributing to the public's vulnerability. I am afraid she has blood on her hands. Enough really is Enough.

[BleedingClaret]

May is struggling, so then there's Corbyn.............. mmh, I'll take May warts and all.

[Jakubclaret]

Furthermore; when she came to the podium outside number 10 yesterday, that is when she should have displayed "Strong and Stable leadership".
I have been thinking back about what she had to say, what did she mean
"root out terrorism in the Public Sector"? WTF
Are all these terrorists nurses, teachers, firemen, police officers and DWP?

May has been very slow to anticipate & respond with any incisive plan of action. Corbyn I sincerely hope he gets in as I think he's the future & all this terrorism business would vanish at least reduce once his policies are/if he gets the chance to implement them. It's a absolutely frightening prospect for me if the tories get re-elected. It's only until recently the islamic terrorism thing has been happening on our shores to this scale, Corbyn would cut the funding to the whole shebang it would be regulated. Things are clearly getting worse not better.

[Claretski]

Not sure how Corbyn could cut the funding to terrorism, but if he tries to implement even a fraction of his promises (manifesto or otherwise) there will be cuts to funding for a lot of other services within a very short time although I suppose he could always go and pick some more from his magic money tree.
Seriously though we are dealing with an ideology that transcends all party politics and having someone in charge with the record of Corbyn is hardly likely to inspire confidence.

[happyclaret17]

I think people will start " disappearing " ...a bit like they would in russia....our secret services are quite capable of bumping a few off....of course this wouldnt be politically correct so we wouldnt get to know about it....I think our secret services would relish this...utc.

[Pstotto]

1. Make it illegal to preach religion as fact.
2. Make it illegal to preach religion without a license agreement that one's beliefs are just that i.e. faith based on belief and not established fact.
3. Make a political mandate to dissempower so-called 'Holy words of God', for example the bible was written by lots of different people over many years.
4. Make it a condition of entry and residency in the UK, that one's faith is not established fact, but a belief subject to personal sense mediation and that others have the right to different beliefs based on personal circumstance. No respecting the rights of others, no entry to the UK. The have to sign the document to gain entry to this multi-faith secular society.
5.. Emphasize the subjectivity of religion i.e. one can only ever have a subjective take on whatever one is told, according to sense mediation:

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[Pstotto]

Any UK resident not from the this land who does not sign the agreement, immediate deportation.

[Jakubclaret]

Not sure how Corbyn could cut the funding to terrorism, but if he tries to implement even a fraction of his promises (manifesto or otherwise) there will be cuts to funding for a lot of other services within a very short time although I suppose he could always go and pick some more from his magic money tree.
Seriously though we are dealing with an ideology that transcends all party politics and having someone in charge with the record of Corbyn is hardly likely to inspire confidence.

Corbyn will be raising (if elected) corporation tax by more than a third that will raise a healthy sum. Yes there's bound to be cuts to other services when further spending is needed elsewhere that's not unique to 1 elected government. The magic money tree will be there because the finances will be allocated accordingly you save to spend or waste to borrow. Labour hasn't got a brilliant track record regarding debt but hasn't the national debt gone up despite slashing services so nothing hasn't really been achieved during this so called austerity period. I was under the very assumption that was the whole idea to reduce the national debt.

[taio]

Corbyn will be raising (if elected) corporation tax by more than a third that will raise a healthy sum. Yes there's bound to be cuts to other services when further spending is needed elsewhere that's not unique to 1 elected government. The magic money tree will be there because the finances will be allocated accordingly you save to spend or waste to borrow. Labour hasn't got a brilliant track record regarding debt but hasn't the national debt gone up despite slashing services so nothing hasn't really been achieved during this so called austerity period. I was under the very assumption that was the whole idea to reduce the national debt.

The whole idea was to reduce the deficit to slow the debt burden. The deficit has been reduced by about 2/3 from its peak in 2010. Of course while there's a deficit the debt will increase.

[Jakubclaret]

The whole idea was though that during the austerity period the debt would be stabilising or diminishing. It either increases stabilises or reduces. It's 1 of the 3. I just can't help but robustly believe & feel since Cameron got the keys to number 10 that I've been misled on so many occasions I've lost count. With a ever stronger opposition than previously I can only hope that a change would be of betterment to this country.

[taio]

The whole idea was though that during the austerity period the debt would be stabilising or diminishing. It either increases stabilises or reduces. It's 1 of the 3. I just can't help but robustly believe & feel since Cameron got the keys to number 10 that I've been misled on so many occasions I've lost count. With a ever stronger opposition than previously I can only hope that a change would be of betterment to this country.

The whole idea wasn't to reduce the debt in the medium term. It was to reduce the deficit. It's two different things. The deficit can reduce while the debt increases which is what has happened.

[Jakubclaret]

So with a simple yes or no. Has the national debt gone up during this conversative government as I'd already previously stated?

[Caballo]

The deficit is stabilising, until borrowing reaches zero and we begin to run a surplus the debt will continue to increase. Unsurprisingly when you borrow money, the lender wants interest in return for their initial outlay. This strong opposition, is it the the party that within the last 18 months has had in excess of 30 shadow ministers resign citing their leaders inability to govern as the reason?

[taio]

Yes of course it has. You stated that the whole idea was to reduce the national debt which wasn't the case. It was always well known that the debt would grow in the medium term.

[Jakubclaret]

Yes of course it has. You stated that the whole idea was to reduce the national debt which wasn't the case. It was always well known that the debt would grow in the medium term.

It wasn't well known to me. Did the national debt get pledged to the electorate at the time in a Tory manifesto it would be reducing. It's no wonder why now people who wasn't in the know are surprised & equally disMAYed (sorry). So basically the debt has increased when it was supposed to go down. I think I've just about grasped that now.

[Pimlico_Claret]

Want to narrow it down even further to suit your witless agenda?

Don't forget, in the 80's the terrorists were Irish, much like half the population of the town are descended from.

Blaming immigration for the terror attacks simply reveals your own racist attitudes.

Witless agenda? Racist attitude.? I was asking a question as to whether people were aware of what was said many years ago, and maybe consider how it is relevant some 40 years or so later.

[taio]

It wasn't well known to me. Did the national debt get pledged to the electorate at the time in a Tory manifesto it would be reducing. It's no wonder why now people who wasn't in the know are surprised & equally disMAYed (sorry). So basically the debt has increased when it was supposed to go down. I think I've just about grasped that now.

No the debt has go up and it was intended to go up. The deficit has come down to reduce the rate at which the debt increases. The more the deficit is reduced the less will be added to the debt pile. An eventual budget surplus could enable the debt to be reduced.

[Jakubclaret]

No the debt has go up and it was intended to go up. The deficit has come down to reduce the rate at which the debt increases. The more the deficit is reduced the less will be added to the debt pile. An eventual budget surplus could enable the debt to be reduced.

I'm only teasing I do truelly get what you're saying. Like I said before labour don't have the best track record when it comes to the public purse. I will still be voting labour there's a host of other reasons besides finances for me to.

[Cirrus_Minor]

I am of the opinion all police officers receive training in the use of firearms. They should then carry firearms in public like their European counterparts do.

That'll do for starters.

Maybe we should extend this to allow everyone to carry firearm just like they do on America, you never see people being killed over there.

[Pstotto]

How about you read my posts and get what I'm saying, cos you're all pickaninnies ignoring what I wrote so far.