Britt Assombalonga

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:57 pm

Slurpy wrote:Boro signing Braithwaite for £9m, surely not both...

He's toss on Fifa, we aren't missing out on much.

forzagranata · Post by **forzagranata** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:03 pm

Tall Paul wrote:It wasn't even half a season though.

32 appearances. Decent enough goal ratio but really....twice as much as we paid for Gray two years ago? I know there is inflation but it is pretty clear that the Championship and Premier League are two of the most over-priced markets for players.

We could get a decent Serie A striker for that money

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:06 pm

He's just under a 1 in 2 ratio striker in the championship.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:06 pm

correct, our scouts have to do better (assuming they aren't)

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:13 pm

forzagranata wrote:32 appearances. Decent enough goal ratio but really....twice as much as we paid for Gray two years ago? I know there is inflation but it is pretty clear that the Championship and Premier League are two of the most over-priced markets for players.

We could get a decent Serie A striker for that money

Agreed there are plenty of prolific strikers in the foreign market that would jump at the chance to play in the premier league . Even if it is just a stepping stone move that helps us for a couple of seasons to establish ourselves in the premier league

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:14 pm

forzagranata wrote:32 appearances. Decent enough goal ratio but really....twice as much as we paid for Gray two years ago? I know there is inflation but it is pretty clear that the Championship and Premier League are two of the most over-priced markets for players.

We could get a decent Serie A striker for that money

12 of those appearances were off the bench.

Who are these Serie A strikers we could get?

LaLigaClaret · Post by **LaLigaClaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:26 pm

In would be very surprised if he went to Boro' as it would show a real lack of ambition on his part. Assombalonga surely wants Prem football and I think the Boro' storey is a fake news item being put out by their local press.

I think it is interesting we are being linked with Jenkinson as part of our offer is Darikwa and I haven't heard that our latest bid on Assombalonga has been rejected as it has gone a bit quiet. Sean Dyche said himself that there were a couple of possible deals bubbling under and they were dependant on other things happening elsewhere so this could be one of them. A deal on Assombalonga could free up the Gray situation as well as Darikwa, allowing Gray to West Ham with a possible Snodgrass in. So a lot of things may depend on the Assombalonga deal and I can't see us not having upped our offer above the reported £8m plus Darikwa.

It seems Watford are preparing a £10m bid which suggests it wouldn't take much above that to succeed. This suggests that Boro' wouldn't be offering much more than this and I still believe that £10m plus Darikwa plus add ins that take it to £12m plus Darikwa would seal it. I also believe that is what we will do especially if Gray is wanted by West Ham at around £15m.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:30 pm

Gray to West Ham?

The same West Ham bidding £15-20million for the Stoke striker?

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:32 pm

A lot of suggesting and conjecture going on there La Liga

LaLigaClaret · Post by **LaLigaClaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:39 pm

Stoke have rejected the West Ham bid twice and said they don't want to sell.

Suggestion and conjecture true but I would argue completely possible and plausible.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:45 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:In would be very surprised if he went to Boro' as it would show a real lack of ambition on his part. Assombalonga surely wants Prem football and I think the Boro' storey is a fake news item being put out by their local press.

I think it is interesting we are being linked with Jenkinson as part of our offer is Darikwa and I haven't heard that our latest bid on Assombalonga has been rejected as it has gone a bit quiet. Sean Dyche said himself that there were a couple of possible deals bubbling under and they were dependant on other things happening elsewhere so this could be one of them. A deal on Assombalonga could free up the Gray situation as well as Darikwa, allowing Gray to West Ham with a possible Snodgrass in. So a lot of things may depend on the Assombalonga deal and I can't see us not having upped our offer above the reported £8m plus Darikwa.

It seems Watford are preparing a £10m bid which suggests it wouldn't take much above that to succeed. This suggests that Boro' wouldn't be offering much more than this and I still believe that £10m plus Darikwa plus add ins that take it to £12m plus Darikwa would seal it. I also believe that is what we will do especially if Gray is wanted by West Ham at around £15m.

Did we put a new bid in for assombalonga ?

LaLigaClaret · Post by **LaLigaClaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:46 pm

If we haven't then I am sure we will and I suggest it is likely to be near what I suggested.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:51 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:If we haven't then I am sure we will and I suggest it is likely to be near what I suggested.

Forest are after a right back from luton for 1 million pound . England under 19 not sure if hes for the future or now

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:49 pm

I am sure West Ham tried to by Braithwaite last year and he would not go to them, now he is joining a Championship side, strange. Good player mind.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:00 pm

Goalposts wrote:Gong boro 15mill deal 80% done

lol apparently now unravelling if ever was that close...his agent may be playing shenanigans it would seem

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:05 pm

Hoping that we step in

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:09 pm

Would rather we take a gamble on a striker abroad then spunk £15m on Assombalonga.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:43 pm

Not with our record of spending in the foreign market.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:31 am

Signing for Boro says the Sun. £14m and £60k a week wages.

So he'll be earning in the Championship about £20-25k a week more than our highest earners.

It would have been problematic to have signed him. If you're Gray or Vokes you'd be looking at thinking "he's not that much younger than me and I've got a better track record....but he's on double my wage?".

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:42 am

If thats the case them wages are well out of our reach good luck too them both

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:42 am

At that price they're welcome to him.
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SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:46 am

Oh well, we got the old lad from Stoke.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:55 am

Oh well, we've got another season in the top flight.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:03 am

Just shows what were up against if i club in the championship can afford to pay somebody 60k a week thats crazy money

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:18 am

If that is the level of wages afforded to a striker in the Championship then Andre Gray will definitely be wanting away to maximise his earning potential from a relatively short career.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:31 am

Not like skipton to cry

His dislike of Dyche, the board, and almost all players makes it seem odd to not just walk away

Cubanclaret · Post by **Cubanclaret** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:41 am

For Middlesboro read Fulham the other year when they signed Ross McCormack.
It's funny how the media go on about Steve Gibson being the best chairman in the league. Their spending borders on the indiscriminate, yet they won four games in the Prem. Is that good chairmanship?
The problem with this is that it legitimises Gray's wage demands. Keep Andre till Jan and see how Danny Ings recovers at Liverpool.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:49 am

Nice to see Boro working to a strict budget again. £60k a week is at least £35k a week too much for this lad.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:51 am

jlup1980 wrote:Nice to see Boro working to a strict budget again. £60k a week is at least £35k a week too much for this lad.

I bet he's on 30+ were he his now

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:39 am

Reecey1987 wrote:Just shows what were up against if i club in the championship can afford to pay somebody 60k a week thats crazy money

Unfortunately as we see time and time again "can afford" is not a term that necessarily applies to football clubs. With the average wage in Britain falling in real terms, football continues to exist in a parallel universe. Its going to be quite a bump when the worlds finally collide.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:45 am

I wonder if at some point, the genuine fans will stop attending because of the money involved or do you think most don't care as long as their team is doing well.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:49 am

Thats from the guy who does the nottingham post

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:00 am

Firthy wrote:I wonder if at some point, the genuine fans will stop attending because of the money involved or do you think most don't care as long as their team is doing well.

At the moment football is getting away with it, by appealing to corporate and courting the notoriously fickle higher middle class. Those traditional supporters who are still hanging onto their teams coat tails are doing so at the cost of other things... I actually know one family that lost their house paying for season tickets but unable to afford both the tickets and their mortgage (stupid of them I know).

However there are signs that the real world is finally catching up.... I suspect the massive increase in spending again this season is literally betting the ranch and going all in to use gambling parlance. The tax ruling at Rangers will soon have massive repercussions and I'll be amazed if and when the fallout when it comes does not only take out several clubs, but will possibly lead to quite a few gaol terms for tax avoidance.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:02 am

Reecey1987 wrote:I bet he's on 30+ were he his now

I doubt it when you consider where he signed from and when. I'd be surprised if he's on more than £20k a week to be honest.

He's a good player but he's not proved he's fully fit yet. He only completed 90 minutes about 10 times last season, in around 30 appearances. That suggests to me he's not quite where he was pre injury yet. There's every chance he could breakdown after a dozen games this coming season. Silly money.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:17 am

jlup1980 wrote:I doubt it when you consider where he signed from and when. I'd be surprised if he's on more than £20k a week to be honest.

He's a good player but he's not proved he's fully fit yet. He only completed 90 minutes about 10 times last season, in around 30 appearances. That suggests to me he's not quite where he was pre injury yet. There's every chance he could breakdown after a dozen games this coming season. Silly money.

He signed a new contract last year, you would think that would have been on improved terms. As the journalist from the Nottingham Post says, Assombalonga has the final say and Prem football may trump Boro's salary offer.

Zom Zom · Post by **Zom Zom** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:39 am

claretandy wrote:He signed a new contract last year, you would think that would have been on improved terms. As the journalist from the Nottingham Post says, Assombalonga has the final say and Prem football may trump Boro's salary offer.

I would like to think so, but Dyche did say at least one player chose money over top flight football to remain in the Championship last summer.

A sad indictment of the modern game.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:33 am

If he takes the cash in preference to playing in the Premier League then that will say a lot about him.

Of course the same will apply if he plumps for Burnley or Watford and playing in the Premier League as opposed to just seeing £ signs

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:53 am

Love when people always make the money argument. Yeah, lets not secure my family's financial future.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:56 am

Sure he'll secure his financial future playing for a top flight club.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:58 am

From burnley express

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:01 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Sure he'll secure his financial future playing for a top flight club.

If Boro are offering £60k a week and are promotion favourites whereas Watford and us are probably offering half of that I would know who I would choose.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:11 am

And it sounds like were after BA regardless if gray stays or go's

Sleeping Cat · Post by **Sleeping Cat** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:12 am

As far as I'm aware we have been negotiating with forest on a continual basis for a week or so. I guess that is agreeing fees up front, add on payments, discussing potential player exchange as part of the deal, getting potential exchange players to discuss a move. Quite a few ducks to line up if the deal is taking that shape and involving another player going the other way.

Interesting form the local Forest journo & refreshing to hear Brit would prefer the challenge of playing top level football rather than the money.

also, I understand that there has been no inquiry about Gray from any club. All speculation is his agent talking it up as his client enters last year of his contract and putting prospective feelers out. At the moment though, he is not going anywhere.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:15 am

KefkaClaret wrote:If Boro are offering £60k a week and are promotion favourites whereas Watford and us are probably offering half of that I would know who I would choose.

Sure he'd make up the difference with our bonus structure.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:19 am

KefkaClaret wrote:Love when people always make the money argument. Yeah, lets not secure my family's financial future.

If you can't secure your families financial future on 30/40k per week then there's something seriously wrong with you.

With the amount of stupid money footballers are getting paid it has to stop being just about money and the desire to play in the top flight has to come into the equation at some point and IMO opinion this is one of them.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:31 am

If somebody is unable to make provisions and secure their families future earning 5k a week (260k a year) they are thick as pig **** never mind earning 60k a week,,

Or do we mean somebody as to earn enough money so none of their family ever have to work ever, If that's the case they're bone fuckin idle.

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:46 am

I dream of £5k a month!

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:50 am

If you had the choice (which he does) of sitting on 10million or 20million at the end of your career you would choose the latter

Erasmus · Post by **Erasmus** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:53 am

It's the nature of wealth. One is never satisfied with what one gets. This applies in every sphere of life, people always want more than what they have already.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:54 am

Holtyclaret wrote:I dream of £5k a month!

I dream of 5k a year!

Rummaging through litter bins takes its toll!