Burnley Born Premier League / First Division Players

billyhamilton82 · Post by **billyhamilton82** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:34 pm

Genuine question for all the BFC almanacs / anoraks....delete as appropriate

How many Burnley born Premier / First Division players have we had from the town play in the same season.

There is a real probability we will have two next season and possibly three if Tom gets a chance.

Jay Rodriguez - West Brom
Oliver Norwood - Brighton
Tom Anderson - Burnley

Have I missed any?

I think Chris Casper managed a couple of league appearances off the bench and there must have been more going further back Albert Cheesebrough and Jack Whitham etc but have we had three in the same season actually born in the town?

If it happens its a real achievement in this day and age considering the low percentage of English players who actually get to play at the highest level in England.

Take a bow Barden High School, St Theodores and St Christophers PE teachers and local junior football clubs.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:43 pm

David Miller and Andy Wharton perhaps?

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:46 pm

you have specified Burnley but you don't have to stretch it too far to bring in Kevin Hird, Andy Payton, Colin Blant, etc.,

billyhamilton82 · Post by **billyhamilton82** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:52 pm

Brian Miller was Hapton and Marc Pugh is Bacup but Burnley specifically is more difficult.

As far as I know Andy Payton didn't play in the top division.

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:07 pm

Micky and Marcus Phelan

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:10 pm

billyhamilton82 wrote: As far as I know Andy Payton didn't play in the top division.

My bad. I read it as PL to current First Division.
Neither did David Miller or Andy Wharton!

billyhamilton82 · Post by **billyhamilton82** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:21 pm

Micky Phelan is Nelson.

Slightly pedantic but interested to know just Burnley born players.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:26 pm

Can't think of many to be honest

Jay Rod, Jack Whitham (Liverpool) & Albert Cheesebrough were the first ones to come to mind

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:29 pm

Where's Matty James playing these days?

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:34 pm

Olly Norwood -Reading and Brighton (just noticed OP, being dumb today)

(David Holt - Padiham, but only old third and second divisions)

NB.Read it same.

Selby Claret · Post by **Selby Claret** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:36 pm

Marc Pugh - Bacup
Richard Chaplow - Accrington

andysisson · Post by **andysisson** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:37 pm

Ron Greenwood?

Selby Claret · Post by **Selby Claret** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:38 pm

Ryan Fulton at Liverpool - but doubt he's made an appearance yet!

andysisson · Post by **andysisson** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:40 pm

I think Fulton has just signed for Hamilton Accies on a permanent deal.

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:42 pm

In the periods just before and just after the first World War we had several players on our books who were born in Burnley. I think the first time three appeared together in our first team was the '25/'26 season when Stephen Spargo, Harold Hargreaves and the great Jerry Dawson all featured together for us.

During that period we also had on our books, and born in Burnley, Clifford Heap, Walter Pollard and William Morgan who all made appearances in the first team during the '20's.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:48 pm

John Mullin?

billyhamilton82 · Post by **billyhamilton82** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:49 pm

Thanks Royboy.

I thought we must have had more pre- war(s).

I must admit I did expect more post war which just goes to show what a great achievement it actually is / will be.

Ron Greenwood - great shout (I think we can allow Worsthorne

)

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:51 pm

Spike wrote:Micky and Marcus Phelan

I must have missed Gussie's top division appearances. I'd have thought he'd have mentioned it.

Sausage · Post by **Sausage** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:53 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:John Mullin?

Born in Bury. Schooled in Burnley at St Ted's.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:53 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:I must have missed Gussie's top division appearances. I'd have thought he'd have mentioned it.

Did Marcus ever play league football? I know he went to Bury but not sure whether he made their first team. As it happens, the Phelans don't qualify as they are from Nelson.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:56 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Did Marcus ever play league football? I know he went to Bury but not sure whether he made their first team. As it happens, the Phelans don't qualify as they are from Nelson.

I don't think he did.

Andingle · Post by **Andingle** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:57 pm

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UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:57 pm

andysisson wrote:Ron Greenwood?

Ron Greenwood won the league with Chelsea in 1955. Born in Worsthorne, which is definitely Burnley.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:24 pm

Liam Grimshaw, Preston North End.

He was on loan at Chesterfield last season and was utter gash, only reason I knew of him.

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:54 pm

One name not mentioned on this thread so far is a Burnley-born player who played in an FA Cup Final at Wembley.

Any takers??

Also a player born in Burnley was Des Lancaster who was a decent enough left winger but only managed one game for our first team (away at Birmingham in the '56/'57 season). He would have played a lot more but was behind several others who were to become perhaps the best team ever to represent Burnley.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:22 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:One name not mentioned on this thread so far is a Burnley-born player who played in an FA Cup Final at Wembley.

Any takers??

Albert Cheesebrough has been mentioned and I think he played for Leicester in a final. I don't know of any others.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:33 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:One name not mentioned on this thread so far is a Burnley-born player who played in an FA Cup Final at Wembley.

Any takers??

Peter Kippax

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:38 pm

Cheesy did play for Leicester in the defeat to Tottenham in the '61 Final.

But the player I'm looking for was born in Burnley and played for Burnley in the '47 Final.

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:38 pm

That's the one Dazzler.

firstclaret · Post by **firstclaret** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:46 pm

Dominic Telford at Stoke.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:30 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Did Marcus ever play league football? I know he went to Bury but not sure whether he made their first team. As it happens, the Phelans don't qualify as they are from Nelson.

I bet they were born in Burnley though, that was the question

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:32 pm

Grumps wrote:I bet they were born in Burnley though, that was the question

Micky's birthplace is given as Nelson

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:54 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Micky's birthplace is given as Nelson

I don't know of any birthing hospital in Nelson, most people from Nelson were born in Burnley

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:57 pm

Grumps wrote:I don't know of any birthing hospital in Nelson, most people from Nelson were born in Burnley

There was one on Barkerhouse Road, next to the Great Marsden, less than a mile from where their parents lived (although I'm unsure if they lived there when they were born).

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:57 pm

Was he born at home? many were back then.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:58 pm

David hartley played in the 68 youth cup final.attended barden sec.mod and lived on barden lane.did he make the first team??

MT03ALG · Post by **MT03ALG** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:09 pm

Dom Telford has not played for Stoke as yet

claretfern · Post by **claretfern** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:11 pm

There's also Nelson born David Wilson. Played on the right wing for Preston in the '64 FA Cup final. (Educated at Barden I believe) Played 1 game for Liverpool 1967. ( had to check that last bit...knew he got a transfer to Liverpool but was surprised he actually managed a 1st team game )

Ralphandwillie · Post by **Ralphandwillie** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:36 am

Did Mike Ferguson ex Accrington Stanley, Blackburn Rovers and QPR? Ever play 1st division football.
Was he born in burnley?
I think he attended Barden school.

firstclaret · Post by **firstclaret** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:13 pm

MT03ALG wrote:Dom Telford has not played for Stoke as yet

Tom Anderson in thread opening question.

Frenchclaret · Post by **Frenchclaret** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:00 pm

Alan Shackleton - played centre-forward just prior to the 60's, then went to Leeds, and Everton.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:10 pm

Grumps wrote:I don't know of any birthing hospital in Nelson, most people from Nelson were born in Burnley

Incorrect.

There was a hospital on Netherfield Rd (Fern Hill I think) where a lot of Nelsoners were born if they weren't born at home.

There was a hospital, but not a birthing hospital across from what is now Nelson and Colne college, which was knocked down for the M65.

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:11 pm

Shackleton was born in Padiham and in fact still lived in Padiham when he made his debut in '57.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:21 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Incorrect.

There was a hospital on Netherfield Rd (Fern Hill I think) where a lot of Nelsoners were born if they weren't born at home.

There was a hospital, but not a birthing hospital across from what is now Nelson and Colne college, which was knocked down for the M65.

Lived in Nelson around the time in question, never heard of fern Hill, most of us were born at bank hall burnley, I think there was one in Colne, Edith Watson? The one the other side of the m65 I cannot remember the name of, was a place you went to recover having had ops elsewhere I think, at least the people I visited there were in for that.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:26 pm

tim_noone wrote:David hartley played in the 68 youth cup final.attended barden sec.mod and lived on barden lane.did he make the first team??

We never signed him - although his name got into the Burnley Express more often than any other member of that team. He could often be found as 'David Hartley prosecuting' in the court case reports.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:27 pm

Grumps wrote:Lived in Nelson around the time in question, never heard of fern Hill, most of us were born at bank hall burnley, I think there was one in Colne, Edith Watson? The one the other side of the m65 I cannot remember the name of, was a place you went to recover having had ops elsewhere I think, at least the people I visited there were in for that.

Edit Watson is the maternity unit at Burnley General - opened in mid to late 1960s I think. Prior to that the maternity hospital at Burnley was Bank Hall on Colne Road.

ashtonlongsider · Post by **ashtonlongsider** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:48 pm

I was definitely born in a Nelson hospital in the early 50's. I'm curious after reading this thread to know it's name. Didn't live in the town for long because of my father was in the Police force and he got posted to Bacup, but lived in Vaughan Street.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:01 pm

The Edith Watson dept at Burnley is named after the original hospital I think

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:08 pm

Edith Watson's opened 25th November 1968 I believe (I know as a member of my family was one of the 1st born there) - Bank Hall before that in Burnley

HollandsPies · Post by **HollandsPies** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:20 pm

The hospital in Colne had the word 'Hartley' in it