optimism tempered by apathy.

[Wile E Coyote]

I think we will not only survive, but thrive this season, but this is based on my belief that dyche is adept at constructing possibly The BEST team ethos in the league .
He seems to be a master at getting the most from mediocre players quite often.
I am concerned that the club have decided not to shell out too much on younger players, we are in the toughest league anywhere, and as the season is about to kick off, we have yet again been sluggish to make major improvements.
Losing keane might prove a major bearing on the outcome, but I do wonder when , if ever, there will be a bit more adventure in the boards general outlook.
we have been relegated, promoted against all the odds, here we are again about to embark on another campaign, but the emphasis seems to be about providing a little competition for regular places, we have not acquired a big name, . Burnley should by now be capable of introducing some real firepower to consolidate , but not seeing anything financially adequate from the money men.
Rumours abounded about sean dyches possible departure, surely the men that hold the purse strings wont stifle his ambition at the last minute again.

[fidelcastro]

ablue and WEC... two peas in a pod.

[Funkydrummer]

I am interested to know what constitutes a star/big name and what one looks like.

How much do we have to spend that will enable us to claim that we have a big name ?

[Lord Beamish]

ablue and WEC... two peas in a pod.

I think he's logged in as one but is channeling the other.

[Wile E Coyote]

whereas the likes of dregs such as yourself, offer nothing but seeking support from similarly dim yes men. I like ablue, he is a clarets fan, as opposed to a "look at me" critic with nothing whatsoever to say.

[fidelcastro]

I think he's logged in as one but is channeling the other.

He'll give himself away if he says we'll conquer all with Tarka in midfield!

[fidelcastro]

whereas the likes of dregs such as yourself, offer nothing but seeking support from similarly dim yes men. I like ablue, he is a clarets fan, as opposed to a "look at me" critic with nothing whatsoever to say.

ablue a clarets fan?

Righto then... just one who never goes to games!

[Lord Beamish]

whereas the likes of dregs such as yourself, offer nothing but seeking support from similarly dim yes men. I like ablue, he is a clarets fan, as opposed to a "look at me" critic with nothing whatsoever to say.

Oh put a sock in it you complete fanny-fart.

[Wile E Coyote]

Oh put a sock in it you complete fanny-fart.

Oooh look, here come the pack followers now, parasitic woodlice to a man.

[fidelcastro]

Oooh look, here come the pack followers now, parasitic woodlice to a man.

You've used that particular insult before. Isn't it time you found a new one from your obscurantist mind?

[Wile E Coyote]

fanny fart ? you can just imagine the low level these single cell bores operate at, we all meet them at work.

[fidelcastro]

fanny fart ? you can just imagine the low level these single cell bores operate at, we all meet them at work.

I bet you're really popular at work.

[Wile E Coyote]

You've used that particular insult before. Isn't it time you found a new one from your obscurantist mind?

i might update my insults, but it won't be on amateurs like you and non league beamish effluent.

[fidelcastro]

i might update my insults, but it won't be on amateurs like you and non league beamish effluent.

It's about time they updated your medication.

[ksrclaret]

Every now and again Wile manages to escape from his nurses and finds his way to posting on this forum.

Entertaining stuff, do let us know when the men in white coats arrive.

[Wile E Coyote]

It's about time they updated your medication.

wow, how cutting edge, medication jokes, the inference being you are sane, you are repetative enough and tedious enough to represent sanity.

[bfcmik]

It takes 2 sides to complete a contract. However much we (BFC) may wish to sign higher quality players we have to accept that, for them, we are not seen as a great move. Most clubs and the better players will be happy to hold out in the hope of getting big money from a top ranked team towards the end of the window. After all there are still 30 days left to possibly attract that interest.

In 2 or 3 weeks, once it starts to look unlikely that the big boys are going to come knocking, clubs and players' agents will start putting feelers out to likely mid table clubs but it will only be in the last 4 or 5 days of the window that clubs at the bottom end of the pecking order are considered.

Of course, offering stupid transfer fees, wages or signing bonuses MAY hasten our time for being considered a good place to come to. However we all know that the club and Sean Dyche want to see some value to the deal from our side so that ridiculous offer will never materialise from Turf Moor.

One final point, Mr Coyote, is that a big name does not guarantee success. They may turn out to be a great buy (but so can someone you get for next to nothing) but they could, equally likely, turn out to be not much of a difference maker!

[Wile E Coyote]

Every now and again Wile manages to escape from his nurses and finds his way to posting on this forum.

Entertaining stuff, do let us know when the men in white coats arrive.

why? , surely you aren't putting yourself forward as a decent substitution are you?

[Wile E Coyote]

It takes 2 sides to complete a contract. However much we (BFC) may wish to sign higher quality players we have to accept that, for them, we are not seen as a great move. Most clubs and the better players will be happy to hold out in the hope of getting big money from a top ranked team towards the end of the window. After all there are still 30 days left to possibly attract that interest.

In 2 or 3 weeks, once it starts to look unlikely that the big boys are going to come knocking, clubs and players' agents will start putting feelers out to likely mid table clubs but it will only be in the last 4 or 5 days of the window that clubs at the bottom end of the pecking order are considered.

Of course, offering stupid transfer fees, wages or signing bonuses MAY hasten our time for being considered a good place to come to. However we all know that the club and Sean Dyche want to see some value to the deal from our side so that ridiculous offer will never materialise from Turf Moor.

One final point, Mr Coyote, is that a big name does not guarantee success. They may turn out to be a great buy (but so can someone you get for next to nothing) but they could, equally likely, turn out to be not much of a difference maker!

thanks, but that assassment is the opposite of how it works, we are part of a league that is wholly dependant on risk taking and large amounts of money, eventually, even the most thrifty and over cautious have t risk a bit to move on a tiny bit, we aren't doing that.

[elwaclaret]

There is an old saying "It is very easy to spend someone else's money". I think on balance I'm happier with our club custodians looking after our clubs interests than the likes of know it alls like WEC and his ilk who would bankrupt the club on their egos.

[mohamed69]

How quickly these threads derail. So many total idiots on here who can't deal with any negativity at all towards dyche or any of the players. Grow up.

[fatboy47]

OP talking out of his arse.

We've progressed to being a team that can boast the likes of Heaton, Brady, Gray, Hendrik and Taylor.....and we're getting better each season.

[Sidney1st]

I think we will not only survive, but thrive this season, but this is based on my belief that dyche is adept at constructing possibly The BEST team ethos in the league .
He seems to be a master at getting the most from mediocre players quite often.
I am concerned that the club have decided not to shell out too much on younger players, we are in the toughest league anywhere, and as the season is about to kick off, we have yet again been sluggish to make major improvements.
Losing keane might prove a major bearing on the outcome, but I do wonder when , if ever, there will be a bit more adventure in the boards general outlook.
we have been relegated, promoted against all the odds, here we are again about to embark on another campaign, but the emphasis seems to be about providing a little competition for regular places, we have not acquired a big name, . Burnley should by now be capable of introducing some real firepower to consolidate , but not seeing anything financially adequate from the money men.
Rumours abounded about sean dyches possible departure, surely the men that hold the purse strings wont stifle his ambition at the last minute again.

In regards to team ethos and mediocre players, Dyche has a very good idea of what he's doing in those respects, but he's been able to watch Pulis and Big Sam do similar for years.

Younger players won't have some of what we need, mainly experience of this league and what's required when it gets to the serious end of the season where older pros will know what's required to dig in and survive.

Little competition for regular places?
Taylor and Bardsley offer plenty of competition for our full backs.
In Central midfield I think we've more than enough competition in Defour, Hendrick, Cork and Westwood, with Marney potentially returning later on in the season.

Walters offers competition for a striking spot.

As for financially adequate, you're probably missing the fact we aren't in the same position as a team like Huddersfield, or Brighton.
We have a solid core of players with PL experience now and we don't need to be running around chucking money around in a desperation to sign players like some promoted clubs usually do.
We can afford to be more picky or to wait for certain signings to happen as a club.

We have a striker who knocked in 10 goals last season and another who hit 9.
Walters gives us another potential option and Barnes we already know about for our goals, the service to the strikers was the real problem, but don't let that get in the way.

The only real rumours about Dyche leaving were on here and it appeared at times some people were desperate for him to leave to satisfy their own desire to attack the club if he went etc.
It's boring, he isn't going anywhere yet, sit down, shut up and enjoy him whilst he's here in that respect.

[Sidney1st]

thanks, but that assassment is the opposite of how it works, we are part of a league that is wholly dependant on risk taking and large amounts of money, eventually, even the most thrifty and over cautious have t risk a bit to move on a tiny bit, we aren't doing that.

We are moving on, but you're wanting us to **** the money away for the sake of it.

Our goal now is to strenghten, recruit a mixture of younger players to develop with the club and older pros to help guide the younger lads etc.

It isn't rocket science so I don't see why you're struggling with it all.

[Firthy]

How quickly these threads derail. So many total idiots on here who can't deal with any negativity at all towards dyche or any of the players. Grow up.

Totally agree, someone with an opinion that some don't agree with and it degenerates into the usual bickering. Why can't people disagree with his opinion and discuss rather than having a go at the poster.

While it's certainly not doom and gloom I think a few on here are disappointed we haven't replaced Keane or brought in younger players with pace and hunger so close to the start of the season. Yes it's disappointing we have money available and haven't really improved the squad but I'm hoping we'll bring a couple in before the window closes.

[Sidney1st]

Darikwa replaced, Back up for Ward, Marney/Barton replaced....

No, we haven't improved the squad at all...

All that's left really is a new CB and maybe a Boyd replacement, but Walters can play there at a push.

[Lancasterclaret]

Just use your one log in please ablue.

You are as bad as Muchacho in thinking that everyone on the messageboard is thick enough not to notice.

[No Ney Never]

I think we will not only survive, but thrive this season, but this is based on my belief that dyche is adept at constructing possibly The BEST team ethos in the league .
He seems to be a master at getting the most from mediocre players quite often.
I am concerned that the club have decided not to shell out too much on younger players, we are in the toughest league anywhere, and as the season is about to kick off, we have yet again been sluggish to make major improvements.
Losing keane might prove a major bearing on the outcome, but I do wonder when , if ever, there will be a bit more adventure in the boards general outlook.
we have been relegated, promoted against all the odds, here we are again about to embark on another campaign, but the emphasis seems to be about providing a little competition for regular places, we have not acquired a big name, . Burnley should by now be capable of introducing some real firepower to consolidate , but not seeing anything financially adequate from the money men.
Rumours abounded about sean dyches possible departure, surely the men that hold the purse strings wont stifle his ambition at the last minute again.

You're opening line is that we'll thrive, that I do agree with.
We haven't added mediocre players, we've signed some quality and experience.
Losing Keane will not have a major bearing on the outcome. You already believe we'll thrive, so I don't know what you mean by major bearing. While Keane has grown to become a top class defender, he hasn't been all the time he's been here and we've done ok. We are more than one player, it's not exactly a new phenomenon for us to sell our best players and still progress as a club.
'A big name' 'real firepower', terms which give the impression that you are caught up in the media frenzy. 'Not seeing anything financially adequate from the money men'.....please stop WEC, it's not very becoming of someone who claims to be a reasonably educated individual.
The clubs long term plan for its continued growth does not include quick fixes in the manner you suggest. For the patient, we are extremely delighted with the progression of the club both on and off the pitch. The directors have done a fantastic job guiding us forward while ensuring its long term viability.
You will get short shrift from some posters on here because they are becoming fed up of answering the same outbursts from people like yourself. There's only so many times they are willing to articulate the same answer to different posters raising the same topic. A reasonable debate becomes more possible when the opening post is a bit better thought out than yours.

[ablueclaret]

Really time people gave up attacking Coyote as somehow another manifestation of myself, sadly some like his Lordship have become obsessed with the idea even though all the evidence points to it being nonsense.
Coyote quite obviously knows about the local area he is one of you, I have never lived closer than Ellesmere Port although in my childhood I did visit Nelson on a number of occasions and my father lived in Burnley during the 30's, but I don't know the area intimately.
Briefly I did have two identities ablue and ared, not much of a giveaway eh, but the moderators thought ared too mild and appeasing, and he was summarily executed, prior to those incarnations I had been jfclaret another to get the chop during SC's era.
For some reason ablue despite his rather irritating and pompous nature has been tolerated to a greater or lesser extent for many years much to my surprise and although it has been frustrating to have so many threads deleted over the years he's become very much a part of my life and so creating a new persona really has never been necessary, but if I ever did it would be abonafideclaret, so look out for him rather than pick on individuals who have no resemblance to me at all.
Coyote is not the first nor probably the last to get lumbered with this need to have me as some multiple threat, time to look at the evidence and give the bloke a break. Remember people thought I was Kyle Lafferty at one time!

[Lord Beamish]

Really time people gave up attacking Coyote as somehow another manifestation of myself, sadly some like his Lordship have become obsessed with the idea even though all the evidence points to it being nonsense.
Coyote quite obviously knows about the local area he is one of you, I have never lived closer than Ellesmere Port although in my childhood I did visit Nelson on a number of occasions and my father lived in Burnley during the 30's, but I don't know the area intimately.
Briefly I did have two identities ablue and ared, not much of a giveaway eh, but the moderators thought ared too mild and appeasing, and he was summarily executed, prior to those incarnations I had been jfclaret another to get the chop during SC's era.
For some reason ablue despite his rather irritating and pompous nature has been tolerated to a greater or lesser extent for many years much to my surprise and although it has been frustrating to have so many threads deleted over the years he's become very much a part of my life and so creating a new persona really has never been necessary, but if I ever did it would be abonafideclaret, so look out for him rather than pick on individuals who have no resemblance to me at all.
Coyote is not the first nor probably the last to get lumbered with this need to have me as some multiple threat, time to look at the evidence and give the bloke a break. Remember people thought I was Kyle Lafferty at one time!

Of course, love.

[Holtyclaret]

Boro paid £85k pw last year for some 'real firepower' and they couldn't score or win. They've now bought a load more 'real firepower' and they won't get promoted from the championship.

There's time yet to add some quality and I think we will.

[ablueclaret]

I have no problem with you attacking me Tufty but this obssession with Coyote is absurd.
Sadly you don't even believe CT when he tells you Coyote is his own man.
Your mind is so fixed I fancy you must be an SD clone.

[boatshed bill]

Really time people gave up attacking Coyote as somehow another manifestation of myself, sadly some like his Lordship have become obsessed with the idea even though all the evidence points to it being nonsense.
Coyote quite obviously knows about the local area he is one of you, I have never lived closer than Ellesmere Port although in my childhood I did visit Nelson on a number of occasions and my father lived in Burnley during the 30's, but I don't know the area intimately.
Briefly I did have two identities ablue and ared, not much of a giveaway eh, but the moderators thought ared too mild and appeasing, and he was summarily executed, prior to those incarnations I had been jfclaret another to get the chop during SC's era.
For some reason ablue despite his rather irritating and pompous nature has been tolerated to a greater or lesser extent for many years much to my surprise and although it has been frustrating to have so many threads deleted over the years he's become very much a part of my life and so creating a new persona really has never been necessary, but if I ever did it would be abonafideclaret, so look out for him rather than pick on individuals who have no resemblance to me at all.
Coyote is not the first nor probably the last to get lumbered with this need to have me as some multiple threat, time to look at the evidence and give the bloke a break. Remember people thought I was Kyle Lafferty at one time!

Multiple personalities?

[ablueclaret]

Everyone has multiple facets to their personalities its part of being human.
Yes I could set-up as different personas on here, the fawning one , the enthusiast, etc but it wouldn't take long to get sussed out because we carry with us baggage which restricts the content we post over long periods of time.
Coyote is so obviously someone else it defies belief that people still give him grief about being that most loathed of posters ablue.
He deserves better.

[Lancasterclaret]

"could"

Arf!

[martin_p]

How quickly these threads derail. So many total idiots on here who can't deal with any negativity at all towards dyche or any of the players. Grow up.

To be fair, all that happened was that someone said WEC and ABC were two peas in a pod (hardly an insult!) and it was WEC's abusive response where the derailment happened!

[RingoMcCartney]

Come on lads.

We're playing Chelsea in the premier league, a week on Saturday!

[Lord Beamish]

I have no problem with you attacking me Tufty but this obssession with Coyote is absurd.
Sadly you don't even believe CT when he tells you Coyote is his own man.
Your mind is so fixed I fancy you must be an SD clone.

How quickly and passionately jump to Wile E's defence, Ablue. It's almost as if he's a part of you that's been wronged.

[ablueclaret]

Come off it I've been fired at throughout my time on here, why would being shot at by you in another guise make any difference.
The reason I try to get the ablue stigma off Coyotes back is simply that he is not me and I think it unfair that another contributor should be lumbered with all the loathing that goes with being seen as ablue, he deserves better and I think if you are honest you know he cannot be me from the comments he makes which place him firmly as a local with local knowledge.
Give the bloke a chance concentrate your fire on me if you need someone to mock.

[Lord Beamish]

Come off it I've been fired at throughout my time on here, why would being shot at by you in another guise make any difference.
The reason I try to get the ablue stigma off Coyotes back is simply that he is not me and I think it unfair that another contributor should be lumbered with all the loathing that goes with being seen as ablue, he deserves better and I think if you are honest you know he cannot be me from the comments he makes which place him firmly as a local with local knowledge.
Give the bloke a chance concentrate your fire on me if you need someone to mock.

You are Christ-like in your selfless altruism, AblueCoyote. A paragon of Human Virtue.

[ablueclaret]

Just frustrated that one contributor has to be burdened by being associated with me, it is sad.

[ablueclaret]

You could easily ascertain whether you are right or wrong by asking Coyote a series of questions about the local area Tufty, but I'm not sure you really want to know the truth.

[Chobulous]

Totally agree, someone with an opinion that some don't agree with and it degenerates into the usual bickering. Why can't people disagree with his opinion and discuss rather than having a go at the poster.

It's the pack mentality, a bit like needing to be in the best gang at school, or in with the in crowd. "Most people abuse Coyoyte or ABC so I will as well."
Never an attempt to actually engage in debate, just the usual Pavlovan response, no doubt followed by a nice warm rosy glow that comes from a sense of belonging.

[Lord Beamish]

Just frustrated that one contributor has to be burdened by being associated with me, it is sad.

It is the nature of things that heads will ever be associated with tails. No sense fighting it Wile E Ablue. You're enough of a pop-philosopher to know that, surely?

[Lord Beamish]

You could easily ascertain whether you are right or wrong by asking Coyote a series of questions about the local area Tufty, but I'm not sure you really want to know the truth.

But surely the other side of his head(you) would just tell him the answers?

[ablueclaret]

So I'm this magical person who lives in Wiltshire but knows the details of places in Burnley I've never even seen. You see me as some superhuman power I'll grant you.

[Lord Beamish]

So I'm this magical person who lives in Wiltshire but knows the details of places in Burnley I've never even seen. You see me as some superhuman power I'll grant you.

The lady doth protest too much!

Anyhow. I've had my fun with you, Blue/Wile E. I'm off to the Bradford Media Museum with my eldest now.

[ablueclaret]

We'll continue your fun Tufty, sad it's at someone else's expense.

[Lancasterclaret]

Firthy/Cholobous

He's on every thread

Saying the same thing.

All the time

I'm glad you are fine with that, you are far more tolerant than I am about that kind of thing!

[ablueclaret]

Unlike you Lancaster whose wide range of contributions enthralles us all, the coterie still reign, long live the coterie.