Mike Garlick's interview in May

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by beddie » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:56 am

Its all about opinions as we know. People like to criticise for just having an opinion. Anyway here's mine. Its all about whether Mr Garlick and co want to stay in this league. You can't simply sell Keane and not replace him with someone of similar or of better quality. With all due respect to Tarky he is not the answer. We should also be looking at spending big bucks on another striker and a right sided winger, that would also include keeping hold of Gray.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:57 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:Kilby replaced a chairman and board who were happy to sell our best players and replace them with lower and lower quality replacements.

It's coming full circle.
Selling club, as a long term fan you should be used to it by now.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Spijed » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:57 am

beddie wrote:With all due respect to Tarky he is not the answer.
Based on what evidence?

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Clarets4me » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:57 am

Imagine sitting on the Turf at a home game, with UptheBeehole on your left, and AblueClaret on your right...

Even after a 4-0 home win, you'd be playing Leonard Cohen in the car home to cheer yourself up !!! :D :D
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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:00 pm

Spijed wrote:Can't be doing too badly though as we are now going to embark on our 3rd season in the Prem in the last four years.

How many of the clubs who have got relegated in recent years can say the same?

Erm, Newcastle, Hull, West Ham, Norwich, Watford etc have all done similar to us.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:00 pm

KB1882 wrote:The replacements were already at the club in those instances
Gray signed well after Ings left.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:01 pm

Clarets4me wrote:Imagine sitting on the Turf at a home game, with UptheBeehole on your left, and AblueClaret on your right...

Even after a 4-0 home win, you'd be playing Leonard Cohen in the car home to cheer yourself up !!! :D :D
Name me the last 4-0 home win.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:03 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Gray signed well after Ings left.
Andre Gray signed 2 months after Ings left.

We don't have 2 months to find a replacement this time. Season starts on Saturday.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by dsr » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:03 pm

beddie wrote:Its all about opinions as we know. People like to criticise for just having an opinion. Anyway here's mine. Its all about whether Mr Garlick and co want to stay in this league. You can't simply sell Keane and not replace him with someone of similar or of better quality. With all due respect to Tarky he is not the answer. We should also be looking at spending big bucks on another striker and a right sided winger, that would also include keeping hold of Gray.
There is no way Burnley could sign a player as god as Keane, because a player as good as Keane would want European football and a vast wage. We can sign a player and train him up to be as good as Keane, perhaps.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:05 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Name me the last 4-0 home win.
Probably Bristol City in the season we won the Championship. Gray hat trick.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:07 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Probably Bristol City in the season we won the Championship. Gray hat trick.
Last 3 words say it all.

We're losing the only player in our squad capable of bagging a hat trick, without a replacement in place.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Jimscho » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:12 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Last 3 words say it all.

We're losing the only player in our squad capable of bagging a hat trick, without a replacement in place.
Gifton Noel Williams once scored a hat trick.
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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:12 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Andre Gray signed 2 months after Ings left.

We don't have 2 months to find a replacement this time. Season starts on Saturday.
Yet the window shuts in 3 weeks...

Was Gray pencilled in to be starting for Chelsea, yes or no?

That's a question you actually cannot answer because you haven't got a clue.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:13 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Last 3 words say it all.

We're losing the only player in our squad capable of bagging a hat trick, without a replacement in place.
Ah the hat trick he was derided on here for because it was against Sunderland.

I'm expecting celebrations if he's off due to the disparaging comments made about him on a regular basis.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:17 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Andre Gray signed 2 months after Ings left.

We don't have 2 months to find a replacement this time. Season starts on Saturday.
Pretty sure Gray signed after that season had started as well.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:17 pm

Andre Gray started our last friendly, in our first choice formation of 442, with our first choice goalkeeper, defence, wingers and quite possibly central midfield partnership.

I think it's quite likely that he'd have played, yes.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by bfccrazy » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:20 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Andre Gray started our last friendly, in our first choice formation of 442, with our first choice goalkeeper, defence, wingers and quite possibly central midfield partnership.

I think it's quite likely that he'd have played, yes.
Can tell you now that it wasnt our full "first choice" 11.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Braindead » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:20 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Andre Gray started our last friendly, in our first choice formation of 442, with our first choice goalkeeper, defence, wingers and quite possibly central midfield partnership.

I think it's quite likely that he'd have played, yes.
And yet he only came on for two minutes against Celta...?

And Vokes scored five goals in his last five PL games at the end of last season - almost certain he would have started against Chelsea regardless if Gray was here or not.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:20 pm

So it looks like we have replaced Gray with Walters.........oh and another 15 million in the pension fund.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by mohamed69 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:24 pm

You are putting words in his mouth and getting angry about those words. Chill the fck out.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:26 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Andre Gray started our last friendly, in our first choice formation of 442, with our first choice goalkeeper, defence, wingers and quite possibly central midfield partnership.

I think it's quite likely that he'd have played, yes.
So YOU think it's LIKELY, but not definite?

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:33 pm

Sidney1st wrote:So YOU think it's LIKELY, but not definite?
Heaton - undisputed number one

Lowton - undisputed first choice right back
Ward - first choice left back
Tarkowski - Keane heir apparent, apparently. No contest from anywhere else in squad
Mee - undisputed first choice centre back

Brady - undisputed first choice winger
Cork - undisputed first choice midfielder
Westwood - Played more often than not at the back end of last season. In residence.
Arfield - Dyche's favourite, works his socks off. Very high chance of starting against Chelsea for his shape-keeping qualities.

Gray - Only pace in side, valuable on counter against a side expected to have 60%+ possession
Walters - tons of top flight experience, can fit in to form a five with Arfield tucking in.

I could definitely see that side playing away at Chelsea, definitely.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Commy » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:35 pm

We are waiting for the silly price part of the window to end. :)

What I can't understand is why he's going to one of the relegation favourites (according to the pundits).

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by NZclaret » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:39 pm

I never post, I just watch from the side lines but this transfer has rattled me... I'll keep my opinions to myself about what I think of our transfers in and out BUT

If one more person says judge us on 1st September I may explode. The start of the season is on Saturday, players should be in and ready to play by Saturday.
Last season we got lucky, our poor showing against Swansea didn't bite us in the rear because we didn't get our business done in time.
Chelsea is NOT a free hit it's a game we want to try and gets points from. To do this we should have our best team ready. The 1st September is 3 games and 9 points in and we will need every point we can muster.

I'll go back to the sidelines ready for the start of the season on SATURDAY

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:39 pm

So you can see it definitely, but it still isn't guaranteed.

That's my whole point, we could turn up at Chelsea and play a completely different formation, no one knows until the day.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Braindead » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:41 pm

NZclaret wrote:I never post, I just watch from the side lines but this transfer has rattled me... I'll keep my opinions to myself about what I think of our transfers in and out BUT

If one more person says judge us on 1st September I may explode. The start of the season is on Saturday, players should be in and ready to play by Saturday.
Last season we got lucky, our poor showing against Swansea didn't bite us in the rear because we didn't get our business done in time.
Chelsea is NOT a free hit it's a game we want to try and gets points from. To do this we should have our best team ready. The 1st September is 3 games and 9 points in and we will need every point we can muster.

I'll go back to the sidelines ready for the start of the season on SATURDAY
You do realise that six of those points are available away at Chelsea and Tottenham don't you - last season's top two?

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by mohamed69 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:42 pm

NZclaret wrote:I never post, I just watch from the side lines but this transfer has rattled me... I'll keep my opinions to myself about what I think of our transfers in and out BUT

If one more person says judge us on 1st September I may explode. The start of the season is on Saturday, players should be in and ready to play by Saturday.
Last season we got lucky, our poor showing against Swansea didn't bite us in the rear because we didn't get our business done in time.
Chelsea is NOT a free hit it's a game we want to try and gets points from. To do this we should have our best team ready. The 1st September is 3 games and 9 points in and we will need every point we can muster.

I'll go back to the sidelines ready for the start of the season on SATURDAY
Chelsea IS a free hit.

And the whole point of the thread is garlick's interview, during which he never guaranteed being stronger / spending more by the start of the season.
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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:43 pm

NZclaret wrote:I never post, I just watch from the side lines but this transfer has rattled me... I'll keep my opinions to myself about what I think of our transfers in and out BUT

If one more person says judge us on 1st September I may explode. The start of the season is on Saturday, players should be in and ready to play by Saturday.
Last season we got lucky, our poor showing against Swansea didn't bite us in the rear because we didn't get our business done in time.
Chelsea is NOT a free hit it's a game we want to try and gets points from. To do this we should have our best team ready. The 1st September is 3 games and 9 points in and we will need every point we can muster.

I'll go back to the sidelines ready for the start of the season on SATURDAY
Chelsea away, West Brom home and Spurs away.

Where do you think our points are coming from there?

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:44 pm

Might as well play the youth team then.

Not like we've got points at Old Trafford, the Etihad, Stamford Bridge and were seconds away at the Emirates in the last few years is it.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Ziggy Stardust » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:46 pm

dsr wrote:There is no way Burnley could sign a player as god as Keane, because a player as good as Keane would want European football and a vast wage. We can sign a player and train him up to be as good as Keane, perhaps.
Correct. We would have to sign a current England international centre half to replace Keane.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Reecey1987 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:46 pm

Whats going to happen lets just say we are weaker come end of the window will there be people protesting to get him out the club ?

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:47 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Might as well play the youth team then.

Not like we've got points at Old Trafford, the Etihad, Stamford Bridge and were seconds away at the Emirates in the last few years is it.
If that will make you feel better then we can play the youth team, but going off past form I think you'll complain about it.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:47 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Whats going to happen lets just say we are weaker come end of the window will there be people protesting to get him out the club ?
There will be boos at Turf Moor of course :lol:

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by claretdj » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:00 pm

I just hope whoever we go after to replace Gray that we get the deal done quick n don't start the usual crap of putting silly offers in that get rejected over n over. If the price is £15m don't start by offering £8m, when we know it will be laughed out! Utc..

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Ziggy Stardust » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:06 pm

Keane was alway's going leave EVERYONE knew that but Garlick isn't going to come out and say it his he. We don't HAVE to sell anyone but if they want to leave it's a different story. Andre didn't sign a contract so cheers and goodbye. Will we spend more money than last year who knows the window isn't shut. Will we be stronger? Not on paper (yet) but strength on paper means jack sh*t. Lets see how the grass bit plays out. Typical knee jerk reaction to everything these days.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:09 pm

Walters will play up front with Vokes and Barnes on the bench. The circa 15 million ( Gray sale minus Walters buy) will help to pay our directors bonus next June. UTC

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:20 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:We're not stronger (his word) and we haven't improved (his word).

As a custodian of the club he has 2 days to strengthen and improve the team before the season starts.

If he fails, he's failed in his role, he's failed the club he's custodian of and he ultimately he's failed the town.

If we get relegated having not replaced Keane and Gray then all hell will break loose.
:lol: :lol: :lol: What an absolute butt-chugger.
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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by boyyanno » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:20 pm

I'll hold my hands up and say I'd have been happy for Gray to go for a fee between 15-20 million. So in some respects I have no reason to moan about this.

What I would say is that most other clubs sign replacements before they sell, I fear that by not doing that you put yourself at the mercy of other teams instead of the other way round. We need at least two, if not three more first team players to have improved on last year.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by claretdj » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:21 pm

Rileybobs wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: What an absolute butt-chugger.
Who Garlick? :lol:
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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:23 pm

Walters will play up front with Vokes and Barnes on the bench. The circa 15 million ( Gray sale minus Walters buy) will help to pay our directors bonus next June. UTC
DRY POWDER LOLZ

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Marlonspants » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:25 pm

I'm worried if this goes through.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:33 pm

Rileybobs wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: What an absolute butt-chugger.
Quite possibly the best new insulting term I've seen since I was a kid.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:33 pm

I'm sure you've seen quite a few insults Sidney

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:38 pm

boyyanno wrote:What I would say is that most other clubs sign replacements before they sell
I'm not sure that's true. Did Everton sign a replacement for Lukakau before they sold him? Even Barcelona haven't replaced Neymar yet.
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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:44 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:I'm sure you've seen quite a few insults Sidney
Yeah loads, I just don't tend to share the good ones with you, you're not worth it :lol:

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:58 pm

Tall Paul wrote:I'm not sure that's true. Did Everton sign a replacement for Lukakau before they sold him? Even Barcelona haven't replaced Neymar yet.
Highlighted on another thread. Everton had signed both Rooney and Sandro before Lukaku left.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:04 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Highlighted on another thread. Everton had signed both Rooney and Sandro before Lukaku left.
Not sure either of those replace Lukaku really, Koeman says he's till looking for a striker.

And Barcelona? Arguably the biggest club in the world have sold a player before signing a replacement.

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:11 pm

Barcelona didn't voluntarily sell Neymar, it was out of their hands once his buyout clause was met.
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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Leisure » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:45 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Walters will play up front with Vokes and Barnes on the bench. The circa 15 million ( Gray sale minus Walters buy) will help to pay our directors bonus next June. UTC
What bonus would that be??? When did the directors previously get a bonus? You're talking b******s!

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Re: Mike Garlick's interview in May

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:50 pm

It doesn't matter to posters like him though.

Its like its some weird competition to see who can make up the most outlandish fact before someone calls them out.

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