New striker incoming

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:11 pm

Blyclaret wrote:Bfccrazy has blown everyone's faith in him
Just a big ego ....look at me

He knows the kitman.....

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:14 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Shane Long would be an excellent signing

Nah. Four or five years ago perhaps.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:17 pm

Imagine replacing Andre Gray with Shane Long, might as well just forfeit our place in the league.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:20 pm

Imagine replacing a premier league striker, with, er, a premier league striker.

It might just catch on.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:21 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:Imagine replacing Andre Gray with Shane Long, might as well just forfeit our place in the league.

There were times last season i'd have replaced him with a traffic cone.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:24 pm

Gray could lose both legs and still be a better striker over Long

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:26 pm

Long would be ok.

He's got premier league experience and is a good player.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:58 am

fidelcastro wrote:Well... I won't say I told you all so!

I hope Rumplestiltskin, or whatever he calls himself on here, will be the first to apologise for hurting my feelings.

I stand corrected and apologise unreservedly for hurting your feelings.

Bfccrazy you dick

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:08 am

KefkaClaret wrote:Gray could lose both legs and still be a better striker over Long

Daftest comment so far on this thread.

Phoenixknight · Post by **Phoenixknight** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:53 am

I read a lot of comments earlier about how danny on loan and another striker would be a good option.
If the rumours about SL have some truth.....isnt that on the right track to this idea ?

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:30 am

Shane Long is a decent player - but as our leading attacking threat, he's not what we need.

If we brought two in up front, fine but not just him.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:53 am

Klopp on Ings:
"He's ready to go, as fit as he can be, no problem with injury. He will play tonight with the U23s. He's fit but not an option."

Not an option... ready to go... on loan?!

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:51 pm

I'd be very happy with Shane Long.

He's better than what we've got.

Unfortunately some Burnley fans live in the land of make believe.

It's a realistic signing.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:08 pm

I thought he was just about fit

JellyBaby · Post by **JellyBaby** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:15 pm

Runs the channels, stretches defences, good in the air, pace, awareness. great signing and improvement on Gray if it happens imo.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:16 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:Gray could lose both legs and still be a better striker over Long

Thought u'd left for Watford Andre???

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:22 pm

CombatClaret wrote:Klopp on Ings:
"He's ready to go, as fit as he can be, no problem with injury. He will play tonight with the U23s. He's fit but not an option."

Not an option... ready to go... on loan?!

One stretch away from a torn hamstring

Mansfield-Claret · Post by **Mansfield-Claret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:24 pm

speed, theres not many in the premier league that are quicker

Shane Long, 35.31

Andre Gray, 34.87

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ch-9746955" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:25 pm

Mansfield-Claret wrote:speed

Shane Long, 35.31

Andre Gray, 34.87

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ch-9746955" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Can he trap a bag of cement though .....

No other stats matter.

Mansfield-Claret · Post by **Mansfield-Claret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:32 pm

hes irish so i would say yes he could trap 3 bags of cement

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:36 pm

Mansfield-Claret wrote:hes irish so i would say yes he could trap 3 bags of cement

And mix 'em before he scored!

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:38 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:
And mix 'em before he scored!

Mansfield-Claret wrote:hes irish so i would say yes he could trap 3 bags of cement

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:42 pm

You silly racist sausage

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:43 pm

replacing an England C international with a full international who has played in numerous tournaments and people still think Gray is better....

CaptainKirk · Post by **CaptainKirk** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:03 pm

Coming into this thread late but I seem to remember BFCcrazy coming out with some "in the know" news some time ago and saying if it wasn't true he would stop posting. Well, it wasn't, but he clearly cannot help himself. The desperation to be thought of as "in the know" comes across as quite sad really.
To paraphrase some of the wits on here: what a weapons grade cockwomble, or to put it more succinctly - dickhead.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:08 pm

CaptainKirk wrote:Coming into this thread late but I seem to remember BFCcrazy coming out with some "in the know" news some time ago and saying if it wasn't true he would stop posting. Well, it wasn't, but he clearly cannot help himself. The desperation to be thought of as "in the know" comes across as quite sad really.
To paraphrase some of the wits on here: what a weapons grade cockwomble, or to put it more succinctly - dickhead.

What's more sad is the fact so many people believed him!

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:25 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:replacing an England C international with a full international who has played in numerous tournaments and people still think Gray is better....

By that logic we should go after players from Vanuatu and the cook Islands who have many internationals that have played in many tournaments and so must be better than Gray, Mee, Tarkowski, Marney etc who aren't internationals?

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:30 pm

Goobs wrote:By that logic we should go after players from Vanuatu and the cook Islands who have many internationals that have played in many tournaments and so must be better than Gray, Mee, Tarkowski, Marney etc who aren't internationals?

That works if you think Vanuatu and the Cook Islands are equivalent to Ireland in football ranking. But like so many "by that logic ..." threads, it leaves out large chunks of actual information and therefore becomes nonsense.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:30 pm

Goobs wrote:By that logic we should go after players from Vanuatu and the cook Islands who have many internationals that have played in many tournaments and so must be better than Gray, Mee, Tarkowski, Marney etc who aren't internationals?

I think what Viva meant was that Long had played in Finals tournaments, and therefore had that valuable experience.

I don't think Vanuatu or the Cook Islands will be qualifying any time soon.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:35 pm

what DSR and Fidelrinio said

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:43 pm

German Helmut sukker..

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:43 pm

fidelcastro wrote:I think what Viva meant was that Long had played in Finals tournaments, and therefore had that valuable experience.

I don't think Vanuatu or the Cook Islands will be qualifying any time soon.

I'm aware of what he meant and my comment was made with tongue firmly in cheek, but I still think what he / she said is complete nonsense.

Maybe my example was a little on the ridiculous side but if you want to apply the same logic then I'm sure there are many uncapped French, German, Argentinian, Spanish (and possibly more countries) players that would be better than Shane Long. Being an international for a middle of the road country such as ROI doesn't automatically make him a good player.

David Healy scored many international goals, as has Lafferty (who went further than ROI in last tournament). Healy was bang average in the championship and I certainly would not take Lafferty back now.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:44 pm

Swede Sor fanni..

levraiclaret · Post by **levraiclaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:44 pm

Just heard Adrian Durham say Burnley have made £10m bid for Lille striker Nicolas de Preville or something like that. 12 goals in 30 games last season.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:48 pm

Goobs wrote:I'm aware of what he meant and my comment was made with tongue firmly in cheek, but I still think what he / she said is complete nonsense.

Maybe my example was a little on the ridiculous side but if you want to apply the same logic then I'm sure there are many uncapped French, German, Argentinian, Spanish (and possibly more countries) players that would be better than Shane Long. Being an international for a middle of the road country such as ROI doesn't automatically make him a good player.

David Healy scored many international goals, as has Lafferty (who went further than ROI in last tournament). Healy was bang average in the championship and I certainly would not take Lafferty back now.

Fair enough. It's all about opinions I guess, but in my opinion Gray is an extremely limited footballer at PL level.

That's not to say that Shane Long isn't, but I'd be reasonably pleased if we signed him.

Some of the players people are wanting to come here are just pie in the sky, sadly.

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:55 pm

levraiclaret wrote:Just heard Adrian Durham say Burnley have made £10m bid for Lille striker Nicolas de Preville or something like that. 12 goals in 30 games last season.

Let's get him and Long.

levraiclaret · Post by **levraiclaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:05 pm

Nicolas de Preville bid also reported by Sun and Mail. Lille only bought him for €5m in June at end of loan spell.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:05 pm

The harsh reality is that all of the strikers at Burnley are extremely limited footballers at PL level, Andre Gray was not alone in that but is being singled out because he decided to leave the club.

If that was not the case we would have been receiving bids for Vokes and Barnes from the likes of Man City and Arsenal and other clubs in the higher echelons of the league. AS far as I am aware we have not received bids for any of them from rival PL clubs.

AS for Nicolas de Preville I think you will find that quite a high proportion of his goals came from the penalty spot not open play. Hardly prolific.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:07 pm

Goobs wrote:I'm aware of what he meant and my comment was made with tongue firmly in cheek, but I still think what he / she said is complete nonsense.

Maybe my example was a little on the ridiculous side but if you want to apply the same logic then I'm sure there are many uncapped French, German, Argentinian, Spanish (and possibly more countries) players that would be better than Shane Long. Being an international for a middle of the road country such as ROI doesn't automatically make him a good player.

David Healy scored many international goals, as has Lafferty (who went further than ROI in last tournament). Healy was bang average in the championship and I certainly would not take Lafferty back now.

I would agree with you were it not for the fact that Long has spent the majority of his career playing in the PL, that would suggest he's pretty handy for a team to have. Gray has spent 1 season in the PL, 2 in the Championship

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:08 pm

and yes, you can throw out the Vardy example of a player who got his break later in life but Vardy is figuratively in a different league to Andre

levraiclaret · Post by **levraiclaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:12 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
AS for Nicolas de Preville I think you will find that quite a high proportion of his goals came from the penalty spot not open play. Hardly prolific.

Just passing it on, Kenton, not advocating buying him, are you a member of the doom faction btw?

How many of the penalties did Nicolas win?

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:18 pm

kentonclaret wrote:The harsh reality is that all of the strikers at Burnley are extremely limited footballers at PL level, Andre Gray was not alone in that but is being singled out because he decided to leave the club.

If that was not the case we would have been receiving bids for Vokes and Barnes from the likes of Man City and Arsenal and other clubs in the higher echelons of the league. AS far as I am aware we have not received bids for any of them from rival PL clubs.

AS for Nicolas de Preville I think you will find that quite a high proportion of his goals came from the penalty spot not open play. Hardly prolific.

He did score a couple of pens but there were plenty from open play - a real mix really: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtgFxLNsDgU&t=154s" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:24 pm

kentonclaret wrote: AS for Nicolas de Preville I think you will find that quite a high proportion of his goals came from the penalty spot not open play. Hardly prolific.

https://mobile.twitter.com/KozielloEN/s ... 08/video/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A Twitter link for you, far more than pens in that lot.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:25 pm

levraiclaret wrote:Nicolas de Preville bid also reported by Sun and Mail. Lille only bought him for €5m in June at end of loan spell.

Think they have the same owners at both clubs involved in the transfer so it's not as straight forward as it looks that they only bought him in June. Sold the player to themselves kind of job going on there.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:36 pm

Long has scored 41 PL goals in 183 appearances.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:43 pm

HITC reckon we're putting a bid in for Chris Wood. Don't really trust them though.

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/08/11/re ... eds-chris/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

To be fair, they quote an article from The Sun:

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/13 ... s-weekend/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:45 pm

New striker has to have pace at the minimum. Causes plenty of panic in defences leaving others to ghost in box and punish

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:46 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Long has scored 41 PL goals in 183 appearances.

Cosmic

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:58 pm

And 17 international goals in 71 appearances.

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:19 pm

IndigoLake wrote:He did score a couple of pens but there were plenty from open play - a real mix really: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtgFxLNsDgU&t=154s" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Remind me of Ings a little, based on that video.