Bid rejected for chris wood

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:32 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:Er, the one you alluded to drug use followed up by a lol face, perhaps ?

I'll delete.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:38 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:Dear God yet another example of ineptitude by the club. Once again we have let a player go in Gray with no replacement signed up and definitely incoming before we let the player leave. Its stupefyingly obvious that we will be hostages to fortune with selling clubs knowing we will be increasingly desperate to get someone in and so jerking us around and inflating their prices. Just how many more times are we to keep doing this. I've said it before and I will say it again our recruitment policies are pathetic.

If only our club wasn't so inept, maybe we could've been enjoying our highest league position for 40 years.

If only...

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:39 pm

Sounds like a player we might have a vague interest in ..summed up by a bid that was obviously never going to be accepted.

Smokescreen?

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:42 pm

Papabendi wrote:Sounds like a player we might have a vague interest in ..summed up by a bid that was obviously never going to be accepted.

Smokescreen?

Know something?

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:43 pm

Very unusual for Burnley to put in a low bid for a player that was obviously never going to be accepted.

Burnley is obviously not a smoke free zone.

LaLigaClaret · Post by **LaLigaClaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:55 pm

Tall Paul wrote:If only our club wasn't so inept, maybe we could've been enjoying our highest league position for 40 years.

If only...

All of which is wholly irrelevant in terms of the amateurish way we conduct our transfer policy when it comes to letting our more valuable players go before we have suitable replacements in. The way we do things will always make us pay more for a player than we would otherwise. Our policy is always about constantly whining about scraping every penny like Arkwright, moaning we can't compete, pathetic excuses about European scouting and so on. Yet we let players out without testing the market first, without any clue about who we want even though posters suggest the same names we eventually bid for weeks before. I can't think of many occasions where we bought someone in first then sold the player he was to replace its nearly always the other way round.

We will be forced into buying whoever is left at the last minute at a grossly inflated price who will probably be no better than the player we let out. If Assombalonga went for £15m then Wood will be more and we will be paying out more in money than we got for Gray given we have to handover money to Brentford.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:00 pm

We don't want to be going down that route.

Marlonspants · Post by **Marlonspants** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:03 pm

We bid for Assombalonga when Gray was still here. What do we do? Hold on and let him go for nothing?

It was good business even if we don't bring a replacement in.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:09 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:All of which is wholly irrelevant in terms of the amateurish way we conduct our transfer policy when it comes to letting our more valuable players go before we have suitable replacements in. The way we do things will always make us pay more for a player than we would otherwise. Our policy is always about constantly whining about scraping every penny like Arkwright, moaning we can't compete, pathetic excuses about European scouting and so on. Yet we let players out without testing the market first, without any clue about who we want even though posters suggest the same names we eventually bid for weeks before. I can't think of many occasions where we bought someone in first then sold the player he was to replace its nearly always the other way round.

We will be forced into buying whoever is left at the last minute at a grossly inflated price who will probably be no better than the player we let out. If Assombalonga went for £15m then Wood will be more and we will be paying out more in money than we got for Gray given we have to handover money to Brentford.

It's not really irrelevant, because if our club was as inept as you're suggesting we wouldn't be where we are now.

And what moaning and excuses are you talking about? The only people moaning seem to be the unrealistic supporters on here.

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:10 pm

True Burnley always start low.

But Assombalonga went for 15m and Wood scored 27 goals last year so it is fairly obvious 12 was never going to cut it.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:11 pm

I reiterate: I think Assombolnga would have preferred Burnley as he would have preferred PL football and also that Forest would have preferred to sell to a club who aren't in direct competition, i.e. us. But wages were the issue and Boro were prepared to pay a lot more. Whether that's us being stingy or being sensible/realistic I don't know, but I don't think it's always agreeing fees that are the real problem.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:12 pm

Marlonspants wrote:We bid for Assombalonga when Gray was still here. What do we do? Hold on and let him go for nothing?

It was good business even if we don't bring a replacement in.

Good business banking £11M even if we don't get a replacement in?

£11M is pretty much irrelevant compared with the money you receive for staying in the PL. We barely pulled profit on Gray which is quite frankly laughable for a player who has developed so much since we bought him

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:15 pm

Who can remember when we got excited at the thought of spending 750k on a player?
Not that long ago really.
Now i see threads like this and wonder,WTF went wrong?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:16 pm

Barely pulled profit?
Purchased for £10 million, sold for £18 million.

Add on wages to the cost, but factor in promotion he helped us achieve and staying up last season.

Yeah I'd say we made a profit on him.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:21 pm

I've always liked Chris Wood and like at least one other on here, quite open minded about us signing him.

I'm not sure why people are worrying about the price tag, its not like we will pay £25 million up front is it?

LaLigaClaret · Post by **LaLigaClaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:25 pm

Tall Paul wrote:It's not really irrelevant, because if our club was as inept as you're suggesting we wouldn't be where we are now.

And what moaning and excuses are you talking about?

Completely irrelevant because for a club who are always moaning about finances they sure like wasting money paying inflated prices because they can't do the simple thing of negotiating a signed player deal first before letting a player leave. By all means they should be negotiating a sale of a player but don't let them go without having the incoming first or at least understanding the market values of the outgoing and incoming players first. Where we are as a club is no justification for being utterly gormless when it comes to losing money needlessly.

Keane gone and no replacement. Gray gone and no replacement. No decent attacking right winger. We even faffed about over signing a third goalkeeper who likely as not will never grace the first team and have no resale value. Bargain basement deals for players past their best who are being rejected by their former clubs who are offering nothing more than the players they have replaced i.e. Walters and Bardsley.

The moaning and excuses are made by many posters on here and by the manager and the Board at every opportunity.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:27 pm

The board and manager aren't always moaning about finances though.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:28 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:Completely irrelevant because for a club who are always moaning about finances they sure like wasting money paying inflated prices because they can't do the simple thing of negotiating a signed player deal first before letting a player leave. By all means they should be negotiating a sale of a player but don't let them go without having the incoming first or at least understanding the market values of the outgoing and incoming players first. Where we are as a club is no justification for being utterly gormless when it comes to losing money needlessly.

Keane gone and no replacement. Gray gone and no replacement. No decent attacking right winger. We even faffed about over signing a third goalkeeper who likely as not will never grace the first team and have no resale value. Bargain basement deals for players past their best who are being rejected by their former clubs who are offering nothing more than the players they have replaced i.e. Walters and Bardsley.

The moaning and excuses are made by many posters on here and by the manager and the Board at every opportunity.

Another poster who's never ever posted anything positive about the club, what a surprise!

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:28 pm

Christ almighty, there are some right miserable sods on here at the moment.

Whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge whinge.

We are clearly looking for the replacements to the players who have left, we've bought in four who improve our squad.

Not one team has finished its business this window. Just calm down a bit please!

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:31 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Barely pulled profit?
Purchased for £10 million, sold for £18 million.

Add on wages to the cost, but factor in promotion he helped us achieve and staying up last season.

Yeah I'd say we made a profit on him.

My sense is, and it's not based on an exhaustive trawl of your posting history, that you do a good amount of work holding the wolves from the door. You save me from bruising my fingers responding to the most basic of belmtardy with your prodigious posting.

I saw a post the other day that used your honesty and openness against you. I thought that it was a low blow but I'm on holiday so was somewhat distracted.

I am clinking a glass to you as I type. Cheers.

UTC!

Big_Ears_BFC · Post by **Big_Ears_BFC** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:38 pm

I'm worrying about that price tag because I don't want to spunk that money on Chris Wood Imo . We need a striker with pace again Imo. We desperately need to look abroad uk based players are overpriced.

But at the end of the day if Dyche wants him or our scouting team are behind the times what can we do.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:40 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Barely pulled profit?
Purchased for £10 million, sold for £18 million.

Add on wages to the cost, but factor in promotion he helped us achieve and staying up last season.

Yeah I'd say we made a profit on him.

We haven't sold him for £18M though.... How much did we pay for him after all the bonuses were paid? Cant be much less than the £11.5M we sold him for.

Big_Ears_BFC · Post by **Big_Ears_BFC** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:42 pm

And why are people telling people to calm down ? I love Burnley like the next man and support the club home and away. But if I don't agree with things or don't fancy a linked player wearing the shirt why should I not say so ?

We pay our money we get our opinion.

Claretpants · Post by **Claretpants** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:42 pm

Sky sports reporting we bid 12M and another unamed Premier club have had 16M rejected.If true I think we will move onto another target

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:44 pm

Big_Ears_BFC wrote:And why are people telling people to calm down ? I love Burnley like the next man and support the club home and away. But if I don't agree with things or don't fancy a linked player wearing the shirt why should I not say so ?

We pay our money we get our opinion.

Apparently you are not allowed to voice your opinion if it even slightly questions any decision made by the club or Dyche. Really strange

3putt · Post by **3putt** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:44 pm

Wood was prolific in an average Championship side last season. Amazed how many seem to be writing him off as not good enough.

He's obviously got plenty about him and he might just be well suited to the Dyche style of player.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:48 pm

I wouldn't even be that excited by Chris wood coming to rovers to be honest! I can understand why some would be upset at the link. Had one good season after a long spell of indifferent form.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:52 pm

Feel free to scream and shout if it makes you feel better big ears.

I'm going to wait till Sept 1st and check who we have in by then.

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:53 pm

KRBFC wrote:Who is Woods? He's called Wood. There is no "S" on the end, Heatons Mees Lowtons Hendricks Bradys, are all of our fans really this stupid?

Thanks for the correction. I'm crossing my fingers that we don't sign Reza Ghoochannejhan. If that happens I'm well and truly f*****d. It's not easy being stupid

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:56 pm

KRBFC wrote:Apparently you are not allowed to voice your opinion if it even slightly questions any decision made by the club or Dyche. Really strange

No, KR, you have got this wrong many many times before. You are allowed to post any old tripe on here about how badly the club is doing, how incompetent the Board of Directors is, how useless Sean Dyche is as manager, basically that we're run worse than Blackburn Rovers. You know you can post all that, because you frequently do, and so far as I know you haven't been banned.

What you're objecting to is that people disagree with you. They read your posts and they tell you that you're posting tripe. What you appear to be after is a board where you can post what you like, and no-one can disagree. But if you want that sort of board, you need to create it and moderate it yourself, and you need to ban all other posters.

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:00 pm

Can't hold the ball up and with the way we play we need it to stick sorry not the guy for us.

John Johnson 1605 · Post by **John Johnson 1605** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:02 pm

Saxoman wrote:I wouldn't even be that excited by Chris wood coming to rovers to be honest!

Absolutely laughable. Even for you.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:04 pm

John Johnson 1605 wrote:Absolutely laughable. Even for you.

It may well be but l mean it.

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:04 pm

£16m bid rejected from unnamed premier league club but defo not us according to sky.

Big_Ears_BFC · Post by **Big_Ears_BFC** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:04 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Feel free to scream and shout if it makes you feel better big ears.

I'm going to wait till Sept 1st and check who we have in by then.

I'm not screaming or shouting just voicing my opinion. I'm not keen on Wood and would be gutted if we spent a lot of money on him. I just think the money could be better spent on a different type of striker with pace who plays off the shoulder. And I would also like a pacey winger who can beat a man and someone to replace Keane. But all this is irrelevant because it's just my opinion on a message board. The club will do as it will and I will sit and watch it....

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:06 pm

If u signed wood, you'd all get behind him anyway..

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:07 pm

Which is fine.

I think my original post was more aimed at those who appear to have forgotten what we have done in the last few transfer windows.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:10 pm

dsr wrote:No, KR, you have got this wrong many many times before. You are allowed to post any old tripe on here about how badly the club is doing, how incompetent the Board of Directors is, how useless Sean Dyche is as manager, basically that we're run worse than Blackburn Rovers. You know you can post all that, because you frequently do, and so far as I know you haven't been banned.

What you're objecting to is that people disagree with you. They read your posts and they tell you that you're posting tripe. What you appear to be after is a board where you can post what you like, and no-one can disagree. But if you want that sort of board, you need to create it and moderate it yourself, and you need to ban all other posters.

The posters aren't disagreeing with me on this occasion though so your point is irrelevant. I haven't mentioned much about Wood infact I said he would be a good signing if we sold Barnes. I have never said we are worse run than Ba**ards, I have never said Dyche is a bad manager either nor have I ever said the board are incompetent in every aspect. I have criticised the club and the board in certain situations and I have praised them in situations. I think the board did well last season, not so much this season so far.

otto1959 · Post by **otto1959** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:12 pm

Duffer_ wrote:My sense is, and it's not based on an exhaustive trawl of your posting history, that you do a good amount of work holding the wolves from the door. You save me from bruising my fingers responding to the most basic of belmtardy with your prodigious posting.

I saw a post the other day that used your honesty and openness against you. I thought that it was a low blow but I'm on holiday so was somewhat distracted.

I am clinking a glass to you as I type. Cheers.

UTC!

Sidney is starting to become a major cockwomble.

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:15 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Christ almighty, there are some right miserable sods on here at the moment.

Whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge whinge.

We are clearly looking for the replacements to the players who have left, we've bought in four who improve our squad.

Not one team has finished its business this window. Just calm down a bit please!

I'm sorry but your sense of perspective and rational thought is not welcome...

occ-claret · Post by **occ-claret** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:34 pm

16m Rejected. Don't believe everything you hear on sky

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:15 am

KRBFC wrote:Who is Woods? He's called Wood. There is no "S" on the end, Heatons Mees Lowtons Hendricks Bradys, are all of our fans really this stupid?

See also: Mary Hopkin - she must despair.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:17 am

Greenmile wrote:See also: Mary Hopkin - she must despair.

Jeff Hendrick and Ashley Hoskin could make him feel at home.

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:26 am

LaLigaClaret wrote:All of which is wholly irrelevant in terms of the amateurish way we conduct our transfer policy when it comes to letting our more valuable players go before we have suitable replacements in. The way we do things will always make us pay more for a player than we would otherwise. Our policy is always about constantly whining about scraping every penny like Arkwright, moaning we can't compete, pathetic excuses about European scouting and so on. Yet we let players out without testing the market first, without any clue about who we want even though posters suggest the same names we eventually bid for weeks before. I can't think of many occasions where we bought someone in first then sold the player he was to replace its nearly always the other way round.

We will be forced into buying whoever is left at the last minute at a grossly inflated price who will probably be no better than the player we let out. If Assombalonga went for £15m then Wood will be more and we will be paying out more in money than we got for Gray given we have to handover money to Brentford.

So our league position is irrelevant to our transfer policy? Why moan about the latter then, unless you don't even care what happens on the pitch and just want us mentioned on the back page of the Sun during the summer.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:45 am

CFS wrote:£16m bid rejected from unnamed premier league club but defo not us according to sky.

It's probably Huddersfield as they look to make their first signing

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:48 am

Greenmile wrote:See also: Mary Hopkin - she must despair.

I'd forgotten about Mary Hopkins as she was probably the first of the ffs there's no s at the end of my name people

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:48 am

mkmel wrote:It's probably Huddersfield as they look to make their first signing

Believed to be one of stoke or west ham.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:54 am

LaLigaClaret wrote:Completely irrelevant because for a club who are always moaning about finances they sure like wasting money paying inflated prices because they can't do the simple thing of negotiating a signed player deal first before letting a player leave. By all means they should be negotiating a sale of a player but don't let them go without having the incoming first or at least understanding the market values of the outgoing and incoming players first. Where we are as a club is no justification for being utterly gormless when it comes to losing money needlessly.

Keane gone and no replacement. Gray gone and no replacement. No decent attacking right winger. We even faffed about over signing a third goalkeeper who likely as not will never grace the first team and have no resale value. Bargain basement deals for players past their best who are being rejected by their former clubs who are offering nothing more than the players they have replaced i.e. Walters and Bardsley.

The moaning and excuses are made by many posters on here and by the manager and the Board at every opportunity.

I am mighty glad you have nothing to do with recruitment. Have you been drinking?

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:59 am

I'd love to know the thought process that's led us to switch our attention from Britt Assombalonga to Chris Wood in a matter of weeks.

They aren't even remotely similar players in terms of style, which makes it look like we haven't actually got a clue what we want or need.

From the outside, our recruitment strategy is looking incoherent and we look like we've completely run out of ideas.

Pursuing Chris Wood reeks of panic and desperation.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:02 am

Reecey1987 wrote:Seems like things are getting lively

Most of us in here have no real idea of when, why or indeed the nature/timeline of any supposed offer which we put in for a player. This offer though, does, ON THE SURFACE, seem scattergun and more worryingly (consistently aimed at Dyche/the recruitment team) reactionary.

It does show you though how far as a club we have come when (let`s say for argument`s sake) we put a 10-20mill bid in for last season`s Championship`s top scorer and a fair section of supporters welcome the news with a solid `meh`. I must say I`m not skipping around my living room upon reading the news.

The issue is, barring slight variances, our front line looks like something out of a cloning laboratory. There seems to be very little scope for variation. IF a 4-5-1 or 4-4-1-1 game plan comes off then all well and good BUT where is Plan B if we need to come from behind or slightly tweak the formation to alter the course of a game? If Barnes or Vokes had have been sold and not Gray, then the purchase of Wood or someone of his ilk would have been absolutely fine. Palace away last season was superb as we battered them with Vokes & Barnes then hit them with the power, pace and finishing of Gray when needed. It looks like we are NOT going to have that option.

My fear is (if we don`t by a Grayesque striker) that we will be making it a lot easier for opposition to set up against us as they will have no fear whatsoever of their backline being stretched by pace or by a ball being played through (hopefully by Defour!) for a pacy striker to run onto.

VERY early doors though and regardless of who lines up for the Mighty Clarets against Chelsea, I will be supporting them from afar, with a beer in one hand and fingernails being bit on the other.

COME ON BURNLEY!

p.s. apologies REECEY1987. No intention of referencing your post.