Sir Mo Farah

thelifeofbrian · Post by **thelifeofbrian** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:24 pm

WTF is going on with him?? I know he must be disappointed after coming second in the 5k but having a go at the press and coming across as a right ungrateful git really smacks of sore loser....................

He also doesn't want to be known as MO any more.....................we have to call him Mohammed now.............

Just a matter of time before he says he doesn't want to be knows as a British citizen any more.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:25 pm

is he going to register a new web address too...?

http://www.mofarah.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:29 pm

thelifeofbrian wrote:WTF is going on with him?? I know he must be disappointed after coming second in the 5k but having a go at the press and coming across as a right ungrateful git really smacks of sore loser....................

He also doesn't want to be known as MO any more.....................we have to call him Mohammed now.............

Just a matter of time before he says he doesn't want to be knows as a British citizen any more.

Maybe he feels a bit p-issed off because the press are constantly questioning whether he is drug free instead of celebrating the fact that he is the most successful British athlete in history.

And so what he wants to be called Mohammed ?

thelifeofbrian · Post by **thelifeofbrian** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:42 pm

TVC15 wrote:Maybe he feels a bit p-issed off because the press are constantly question whether he is drug free instead of celebrating the fact that he is the most successful British athlete in history.

And so what he wants to be called Mohammed ?

that make sense!!

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:45 pm

Some people prefer to have others use their full name rather than a diminutive.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:15 pm

The MohammedBot doesn't have the same ring.

otto1959 · Post by **otto1959** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:47 pm

thelifeofbrian wrote:WTF is going on with him?? I know he must be disappointed after coming second in the 5k but having a go at the press and coming across as a right ungrateful git really smacks of sore loser....................

He also doesn't want to be known as MO any more.....................we have to call him Mohammed now.............

Just a matter of time before he says he doesn't want to be knows as a British citizen any more.

He is based in L.A anyway. Never really lived in the uk or payed uk tax.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:50 pm

Muhammad is the most common first name in the entire world.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:02 pm

otto1959 wrote:He is based in L.A anyway. Never really lived in the uk or payed uk tax.

A lot of athletes are based abroad. Greg Rutherford is but he doesn't get much criticism for it. Wonder why...

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:13 pm

otto1959 wrote:He is based in L.A anyway. Never really lived in the uk or payed uk tax.

He's never been based in LA, he's lived most of his life in London and he will definitely have PAID uk tax. But apart from that, great post.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:18 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:He's never been based in LA, he's lived most of his life in London and he will definitely have PAID uk tax. But apart from that, great post.

But he is brown though and that's enough for some...

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:18 pm

HelloHiGoodbye wrote:A lot of athletes are based abroad. Greg Rutherford is but he doesn't get much criticism for it. Wonder why...

Mo Farah's coach has come under a lot of scrutiny is is currently under investigation in the States.

Caballo · Post by **Caballo** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:19 pm

HelloHiGoodbye wrote:A lot of athletes are based abroad. Greg Rutherford is but he doesn't get much criticism for it. Wonder why...

I thought Rutherford is based in Milton Keynes?

Part of Mos' problem is his association with Salazar, if you lie with pigs you end up smelling of sh1t.

Formerbfcmanager · Post by **Formerbfcmanager** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:20 pm

otto1959 wrote:He is based in L.A anyway. Never really lived in the uk or payed uk tax.

Wrong on all 3 counts. He's actually based in Portland, and lived in the U.K. from age 8 til about 3 years ago when he relocated his family. I presume he payed tax during that time, unless you've seen his tax returns.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:30 pm

Caballo wrote:I thought Rutherford is based in Milton Keynes?

Part of Mos' problem is his association with Salazar, if you lie with pigs you end up smelling of sh1t.

Rutherford said in a feature last night that he's relocated to Arizona (I think) and Katarina Johnson-Thompson has moved to France.

Fair point about Salazar to a degree but nothing's been proven and I'm not sure if Salazar's under investigation anymore? Quick Google search, admittedly.

Hey but Mo's muslim and successful so he's bound to get criticised by some people. And that's why by some media he hasn't got the credit he deserves. Not because of doping but because he's muslim. It's veiled and they'd never properly admit it but it's there.

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:09 pm

British my arse, he was born in Mogadishu Somalia. He didn't come over here until he was eight! He's a Somali. I've never fallen for this he's British malarkey just because we had no decent distance runners of our own, what a load of media driven rubbish....British! Don't make me laugh.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:23 pm

No Ney Never wrote:British my arse, he was born in Mogadishu Somalia. He didn't come over here until he was eight! He's a Somali. I've never fallen for this he's British malarkey just because we had no decent distance runners of our own, what a load of media driven rubbish....British! Don't make me laugh.

Bradley Wiggins, Joanna Lumley, Freddie Mercury, Eddie Izzard, George Orwell, Richard E Grant, Emma Watson, JRR Tolkien, Richard Curtis, Cliff Richard, Rudyard Kipling...

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:01 pm

Belgian, Indian, Tanzanian, Aden, Indian, Swazi, French, African, Kiwi, Indian, Indian...

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:45 pm

otto1959 wrote:He is based in L.A anyway. Never really lived in the uk or payed uk tax.

Hi otto, Mo Farah is a local hero of "south west London." His London home is (somewhere) near me. His golden post box - with a second coat of Olympic gold after Rio - is on the High Street in Teddington. He used to train at St Mary's University, Strawberry Hill, Twickenham. It was mentioned in the press that he was back home in Teddington for one night after the 10,000 metres - I guess his family were also back home - before he returned to the athletes hotel.

Yes, he spends a lot of his time in Oregon - and his family have been living there with him. I think he was training in Spain before the World's - I guess this was about getting in the right time zone.

A lot of African athletes have been based in Teddington the past 20 years or so. One of the top coaches/agents lived around Teddington (I don't know name). It was common to see them training in Bushy Park. There were one or two large houses where they all lived.

I'm sure the UK tax man knows where to find Mo Farah when he wants his taxes.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:49 pm

No Ney Never wrote:British my arse, he was born in Mogadishu Somalia. He didn't come over here until he was eight! He's a Somali. I've never fallen for this he's British malarkey just because we had no decent distance runners of our own, what a load of media driven rubbish....British! Don't make me laugh.

Hi NNN, but he didn't come over here as an athlete - just a kid who needed somewhere better to live. Without his English schooling he wouldn't have been an athlete. He's British enough for me.

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:32 am

[quote="TVC15"]Maybe he feels a bit p-issed off because the press are constantly questioning whether he is drug free

There's a reason for that....well a few actually.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:56 am

It will all come out with the wash...

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:14 am

No Ney Never wrote:British my arse, he was born in Mogadishu Somalia. He didn't come over here until he was eight! He's a Somali. I've never fallen for this he's British malarkey just because we had no decent distance runners of our own, what a load of media driven rubbish....British! Don't make me laugh.

If a man was born in a stable doesnt make him a horse.

He came here from a country where people are still persecuted. His family brought him gerr to safety and for a better life. Not because at 8 years old they knew he would become the greatest distance runner in the world. Only a certain sort of cynical idiot could think that.

He was schooled here. Brought up here and spent his most important and formative years here. If he then wants to represent the country that made him what he is then great. The argument would be totally different if he then said I want to represent Somalia. 'Oh our resources and money were good enough and now he wants yo represent someone else'. Basically people would hate him if he represented us and hate him if he didnt much like Amir Khan.

Personally Mos story is one which makes me proud of what Britain is. A country that helps people who need it. Takes them in as their own. And they in turn are proud to be British. Represent the british. How on earth is it a bad thing?

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:35 pm

fatboy47 wrote:

Please enlighten us all

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:55 pm

Paul Waine wrote:Hi NNN, but he didn't come over here as an athlete - just a kid who needed somewhere better to live. Without his English schooling he wouldn't have been an athlete. He's British enough for me.

I'm pleased that yourself, cricketfields and anyone else has gained enjoyment and pride from Mo competing as a British athlete. He's a Somalian who gained British citizenship that may entitle him to run as a British athlete, but for me he's not British.

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:14 pm

No Ney Never wrote:I'm pleased that yourself, cricketfields and anyone else has gained enjoyment and pride from Mo competing as a British athlete. He's a Somalian who gained British citizenship that may entitle him to run as a British athlete, but for me he's not British.

Ignorant comment

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:26 pm

ClaretDiver wrote:Ignorant comment

The comment is ignorant of what?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:29 pm

No Ney Never wrote:The comment is ignorant of what?

How about Almost Everything

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:40 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:How about Almost Everything

Like what?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:43 pm

I refer you back to cricketfieldclaret's post

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:45 pm

No nan never is probably the sort that will retire to the costa brava reading the sun newspaper with his full english and a pint of englands finest carlsberg.

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:28 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:I refer you back to cricketfieldclaret's post

No need to refer me back to cricketfields post, I read it once already. What I am looking for is an explanation as to why my post is ignorant.
That Mo moved over here at 8 years old, was schooled here and went on to represent Britain in athletics does not make him British, he's Somalian. Britain may be his adopted country and he may have taken on British citizenship, but he's still Somalian with a British citizenship.
I am fully aware that our country allows people here who seek a better life, that has nothing to do with whether he's British or not. I am fully considerate of his life story when I make my statement, so please explain what it is you suggest I'm ignoring in my post.

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:47 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:No nan never is probably the sort that will retire to the costa brava reading the sun newspaper with his full english and a pint of englands finest carlsberg.

I would happily retire to the costa brava as it happens, but I wouldn't be reading the sun or any other tabloid, they are full of rubbish and I'm surprised that under the trade discriptions act that they are still allowed to call themselves 'news' papers.
I do like a full English breakfast, but in your attempt to try and prejudice me you've got a little carried away and described the Danish brew Carlsberg as England's finest.
How about you put together a coherent and persuasive argument why I should change my opinion about whether Mo is British rather than Somalian, not some emotional babble about people coming here to avoid persecution followed by a post full of prejudice.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:52 pm

It is a matter of fact that Mo Farah is British.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:53 pm

No Ney Never wrote:I would happily retire to the costa brava as it happens, but I wouldn't be reading the sun or any other tabloid, they are full of rubbish and I'm surprised that under the trade discriptions act that they are still allowed to call themselves 'news' papers.
I do like a full English breakfast, but in your attempt to try and prejudice me you've got a little carried away and described the Danish brew Carlsberg as England's finest.
How about you put together a coherent and persuasive argument why I should change my opinion about whether Mo is British rather than Somalian, not some emotional babble about people coming here to avoid persecution followed by a post full of prejudice.

I was being facetious with my reference to Carlsberg being English.

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:04 pm

It's a matter of fact that he was born in Mogadishu, to a Somalian mother and raised there up to the age of eight. That makes him Somalian.
Are you saying that because he then moved to Britain that he's no longer Somalian, he's British? If that's your case then I'm afraid I disagree with you. In my opinion he's a Somalian who has taken on British citizenship. That may entitle him to represent Britain in athletics and you may wish to adopt him as British, but the fact is he's still Somalian which ever way you want to dress it up.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:17 pm

No Ney Never wrote:It's a matter of fact that he was born in Mogadishu, to a Somalian mother and raised there up to the age of eight. That makes him Somalian.
Are you saying that because he then moved to Britain that he's no longer Somalian, he's British? If that's your case then I'm afraid I disagree with you. In my opinion he's a Somalian who has taken on British citizenship. That may entitle him to represent Britain in athletics and you may wish to adopt him as British, but the fact is he's still Somalian which ever way you want to dress it up.

I am saying that a person's nationality is not a matter of opinion it's a matter of fact. Farah is British and if you don't agree you are wrong, just as you'd be wrong if you said water is dry or the sky is green.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:21 pm

No Ney Never wrote:It's a matter of fact that he was born in Mogadishu, to a Somalian mother and raised there up to the age of eight. That makes him Somalian.
Are you saying that because he then moved to Britain that he's no longer Somalian, he's British? If that's your case then I'm afraid I disagree with you. In my opinion he's a Somalian who has taken on British citizenship. That may entitle him to represent Britain in athletics and you may wish to adopt him as British, but the fact is he's still Somalian which ever way you want to dress it up.

So just to be clear - you qualify nationality as exclusively where an individual was born?

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:09 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:No nan never is probably the sort that will retire to the costa brava reading the sun newspaper with his full english and a pint of englands finest carlsberg.

Oi!!!! Costa brava ? Nowhere near benidorm.dont you tarnish my ideal costa.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:26 pm

No Ney Never wrote:It's a matter of fact that he was born in Mogadishu, to a Somalian mother and raised there up to the age of eight. That makes him Somalian.
Are you saying that because he then moved to Britain that he's no longer Somalian, he's British? If that's your case then I'm afraid I disagree with you. In my opinion he's a Somalian who has taken on British citizenship. That may entitle him to represent Britain in athletics and you may wish to adopt him as British, but the fact is he's still Somalian which ever way you want to dress it up.

I've got to side with nnn.and I believe if he went to Mogadishu where no doubt he has family he would probably say he's Somalian and proud.he would I'm sure say that.and I bet the poor uneducated unskilled Somalian refugee with no sporting prowess would struggle to get British citizenship.that aside it is a good thing that they and other refugees are allowed sanctuary here.

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:42 pm

Tall Paul wrote:I am saying that a person's nationality is not a matter of opinion it's a matter of fact. Farah is British and if you don't agree you are wrong, just as you'd be wrong if you said water is dry or the sky is green.

A northerner may move to London and as a matter of fact become a southerner, but he'll never be a cockney.
A Geordie may move to Liverpool and as a matter of fact become a Liverpudlian, but he'll never be a scouser.

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:51 pm

HelloHiGoodbye wrote:So just to be clear - you qualify nationality as exclusively where an individual was born?

No.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:06 pm

No Ney Never wrote:A northerner may move to London and as a matter of fact become a southerner, but he'll never be a cockney.
A Geordie may move to Liverpool and as a matter of fact become a Liverpudlian, but he'll never be a scouser.

Using that logic he is british. Just not english.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:14 pm

No Ney Never wrote:No.

Okay, so..?

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:21 pm

Some pretty ignorant (and worrying) comments on this thread.

The fact that people decide to come up with their own definitions on what they consider to be British to suit their own views is worrying.

It`s usually the same people who come up with their own definition of racism.

Mo Farah has spent the majority of his life in Britain. He has a British passport and is legally a British citizen. He has a British accent and and has represented GB for all of his athletics career. He considers himself British because he is British.

If you were born in a different country and moved to Britain when you were 2 months old and became a British citizen living here for the next 100 years would you still consider that person to not be British ? Within this own definition of yours have you made up your own set of timescales ? Are there any other "rules" you have come up with ? Please share with us.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:55 pm

No Ney Never wrote:A northerner may move to London and as a matter of fact become a southerner, but he'll never be a cockney.
A Geordie may move to Liverpool and as a matter of fact become a Liverpudlian, but he'll never be a scouser.

That might be true, but it doesn't alter the fact that Mo Farah is British.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:00 pm

Im English first and British second.bit of a melting pot.mo's Somalian first and British second by him been given british citizenship.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:05 pm

tim_noone wrote:Im English first and British second.bit of a melting pot.mo's Somalian first and British second by him been given british citizenship.

What other rules have you made up ?

Nice use of the term "melting pot"......oh dear !

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:14 pm

HelloHiGoodbye wrote:Okay, so..?

Okay, so what? You wanted to be clear and asked me a question, I gave you a clear answer.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:18 pm

No Ney Never wrote:Okay, so what? You wanted to be clear and asked me a question, I gave you a clear answer.

You've been anything but clear really though. I'd like to know how you determine someone's nationality. You've piqued my interest.

I could be blunt and infer from what you've said but I'd rather you just spit it out.