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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:16 pm

BleedingClaret wrote:I think he was unused sub
He was which means he can play
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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by addisclaret » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:18 pm

ClaretTony wrote:He was which means he can play
and score against them as he has done quite frequently.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:18 pm

BleedingClaret wrote:Top half would be nice.

You there Wednesday night?
Notice he didn't answer that :lol:
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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:21 pm

While Burnley can't offer the sort of wages other Premier League, and, indeed some Championship clubs can

FFS!

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by mybloodisclaret » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:21 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:Hopefully his best is yet to come.

Certainly had Ben Mee in trouble last time we played Leeds at the Turf
We develop strikers here...that's what we do. He will find the next level here. Guaranteed.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by addisclaret » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:26 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:While Burnley can't offer the sort of wages other Premier League, and, indeed some Championship clubs can

FFS!
“One thing I can say is that every player loves the culture we’ve got at the football club. That environment we’ve set certainly gives everyone a base to get better and develop. If we get him in, it will be a very good addition, and we hope he will be pleased with what he sees.”

Read more at: http://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/foo ... -1-8712783" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Squiff » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:12 am

I've always been one of the "in Dyche we trust" brigade, but for the life in me, I can't believe we've spent all that money on that lump of wood, ffs!!! If it's true, I sincerely hope he proves me wrong, but I've quite a few mates who are Leeds fans and they are actually ******* themselves at the thought of us paying all that money for him,. I can't shift this feeling of ffs...

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by addisclaret » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:19 am

Squiff wrote:I've always been one of the "in Dyche we trust" brigade, but for the life in me, I can't believe we've spent all that money on that lump of wood, ffs!!! If it's true, I sincerely hope he proves me wrong, but I've quite a few mates who are Leeds fans and they are actually ******* themselves at the thought of us paying all that money for him,. I can't shift this feeling of ffs...
Keep the faith squiffy, and shut it; the gaffer knows what he's doing. Come game 36 and we are relying on win-win to stay afloat then a it's time to ffs, until then shhhhhhhhhh!

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Juan Tanamera » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:29 am

Squiff wrote:I've always been one of the "in Dyche we trust" brigade, but for the life in me, I can't believe we've spent all that money on that lump of wood, ffs!!! If it's true, I sincerely hope he proves me wrong, but I've quite a few mates who are Leeds fans and they are actually ******* themselves at the thought of us paying all that money for him,. I can't shift this feeling of ffs...
It's surprising how many opposition fans think their ex player is shoite once he has moved on to another team.
Andre Gray springs to mind as an example.
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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:33 am

Squiff wrote:I've always been one of the "in Dyche we trust" brigade, but for the life in me, I can't believe we've spent all that money on that lump of wood, ffs!!! If it's true, I sincerely hope he proves me wrong, but I've quite a few mates who are Leeds fans and they are actually ******* themselves at the thought of us paying all that money for him,. I can't shift this feeling of ffs...
They are probably of the "can't be any good we're not keeping him....we won in Europe crowd" quality of Leeds Fans. A couple I know are really sorry we've got him, but wonder how much different he'll prove to be than Volkes.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Quicknick » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:40 am

An intelligent post on http://www.leedsunited-mad.co.uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; arguing that they had become one-dimensional with him up front.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by superdimitri » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:29 am

I remember a cherries fan coming on here telling us Danny Ings was bobbins!

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by jlup1980 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:03 am

The guy scored a hatful in an average Leeds team last season. Reminds me of when we had Charlie Austin. And for that reason I'm more than happy to give the guy a go. Dyche see's something in him, who are we to argue. I'd rather see him in the team than Walters.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by MACCA » Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:04 am

Juan Tanamera wrote:It's surprising how many opposition fans think their ex player is shoite once he has moved on to another team.
Andre Gray springs to mind as an example.
Many thought he wasn't that good when he was here!

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:57 am

jlup1980 wrote:The guy scored a hatful in an average Leeds team last season. Reminds me of when we had Charlie Austin. And for that reason I'm more than happy to give the guy a go. Dyche see's something in him, who are we to argue. I'd rather see him in the team than Walters.
At the start of the 2012/13 season we were hovering not far above the relegation zone yet Charlie had scored a staggering 15 goals in the first 12 games of that season. We would have been in serious trouble without him. Leeds had a better side last season than we had then but I wonder just where they would have been without Wood's goals. This guy scored more goals last season than the likes of Dwight Gayle & Glenn Murray who were in the top two sides. Not so much the 'In Dyche we trust' but more 'Let's see how he fits in and how well he does'.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Hipper » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:03 am

Quicknick wrote:An intelligent post on http://www.leedsunited-mad.co.uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; arguing that they had become one-dimensional with him up front.
I couldn't get anywhere on this link for adverts.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:05 am

It's generally not how good a player is but how he blends into a teams style of play.

We had spells of playing to suit Gray and Vokes looked awful then swapped round to suit Vokes and Gray looked awful.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Right_winger » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:05 am

The way I see it is Wood has had one good season out of his whole career. Granted it was a very good season scoring wise. He's already had a crack at the premier league and been binned. We are paying a hell of a lot of money for this player. He ain't not Charlie Austin or Danny Ings.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by ashtonlongsider » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:10 am

If this deal happens as expected I'm unsure how Dyche will play him. I can't see him playing both Vokes and Wood together. I also find it difficult to believe we'll pay so much and not play him as the principal striker. I thought Vokes was superb in the first half on Saturday but he was shackled by Pulis half time tactical change and was very ineffective in the 2nd half. Would Wood be any different, only time will tell.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by scouseclaret » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:16 am

That's one way of looking at it RW. Another is that at 25, he's less than half way through his career and the fact that his best season was the last one suggests improvement.

Have to say I have concerns that he's too much like what we've already got, but SD obviously thinks otherwise. He probably thinks he can improve further and he has a better idea of how he wants to fit him in than we do.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Spijed » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:16 am

Right_winger wrote:The way I see it is Wood has had one good season out of his whole career. Granted it was a very good season scoring wise. He's already had a crack at the premier league and been binned. We are paying a hell of a lot of money for this player. He ain't not Charlie Austin or Danny Ings.
Perhaps you could email SD to tell him he's making a big mistake since you know better.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:17 am

Right_winger wrote:The way I see it is Wood has had one good season out of his whole career. Granted it was a very good season scoring wise. He's already had a crack at the premier league and been binned. We are paying a hell of a lot of money for this player. He ain't not Charlie Austin or Danny Ings.
One good season in his whole career? He's only 25 and has scored 88 career league goals so far. He'd 14 in his first season with Leeds to add to the 27 he got last season. Good, productive, loans at Brighton, Birmingham and Millwall and his record at Leicester was not bad, 26 starts, 27 sub, 14 goals.
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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:21 am

Right_winger wrote:He ain't not Charlie Austin or Danny Ings.
Brilliant, that means he is Charlie Austin or Danny Ings :lol:
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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by jlup1980 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:39 am

ClaretTony wrote:One good season in his whole career? He's only 25 and has scored 88 career league goals so far. He'd 14 in his first season with Leeds to add to the 27 he got last season. Good, productive, loans at Brighton, Birmingham and Millwall and his record at Leicester was not bad, 26 starts, 27 sub, 14 goals.
44 goals in 86 apps for Leeds will do for me. I'm no expert but I suspect his goals to game ratio is right up there with, if not better than, Charlie Austin, Andre Gray, Danny Ings and Sam Vokes at that level. Looking at previous Championship golden boot winners I'd also say it's probably better than the likes of McCormack, Rhodes (although has he ever actually won the golden boot?), Glenn Murray, Rickie Lambert etc etc.

I can understand people being underwhelmed by us signing the likes of Walters and Bardsley (they're clearly squad players rather than first teamers set to get the pulses racing) but I can't understand why people aren't at least slightly excited by the prospect of signing Chris Wood. He's improved hugely over the past 2 years - ironically since he became the focus of an attack - and I can't wait to see what Dyche can do with him.

Another take on this for you all. A good friend of mine is a Forest fan and he's astounded we've got Wood for the same amount that Boro paid for Assombalonga. In his words, "if Britt is worth £15m then Wood is £20m plus".
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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Funkydrummer » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:53 am

Juan Tanamera wrote:It's surprising how many opposition fans think their ex player is shoite once he has moved on to another team.
Andre Gray springs to mind as an example.
And your point is ? :D

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Walt » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:05 am

Must have fallen through 10 has come and gone. :lol:

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Right_winger » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:07 am

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Just going off these stats alone Wood is a little over a 1 in 3 striker at a lower level than he is moving too.

To put it into context £16m for chicharito and £20m for Wood they are not even anywhere near close in ability.

We have massively overpaid and it's a very Dyche like underwhelming signing.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by dpinsussex » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:08 am

jlup1980 wrote:44 goals in 86 apps for Leeds will do for me. I'm no expert but I suspect his goals to game ratio is right up there with, if not better than, Charlie Austin, Andre Gray, Danny Ings and Sam Vokes at that level. Looking at previous Championship golden boot winners I'd also say it's probably better than the likes of McCormack, Rhodes (although has he ever actually won the golden boot?), Glenn Murray, Rickie Lambert etc etc.

I can understand people being underwhelmed by us signing the likes of Walters and Bardsley (they're clearly squad players rather than first teamers set to get the pulses racing) but I can't understand why people aren't at least slightly excited by the prospect of signing Chris Wood. He's improved hugely over the past 2 years - ironically since he became the focus of an attack - and I can't wait to see what Dyche can do with him.

Another take on this for you all. A good friend of mine is a Forest fan and he's astounded we've got Wood for the same amount that Boro paid for Assombalonga. In his words, "if Britt is worth £15m then Wood is £20m plus".
Britts not worth 15m though :)

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:12 am

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Just going off these stats alone Wood is a little over a 1 in 3 striker at a lower level than he is moving too.

To put it into context £16m for chicharito and £20m for Wood they are not even anywhere near close in ability.

We have massively overpaid and it's a very Dyche like underwhelming signing.
1 goal in 10 premier league games?

Better than Vokes until his 7 in 7 ?

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by UpTheBeehole » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:14 am

He was scoring a goal every other game as a 20 year old, in a poor team. (Millwall)

He scored a goal every other game in a newly promoted team. (Leicester)

He scored better than every other game in a half-decent team (Leeds)

The lad knows how to score goals, he's 25, and £15m is a steal to be honest when signing a player who's hit so many goals by that stage in his career.
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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:15 am

Vokes had 0 goals in his first 26 Premier League appearances so on that alone Wood is much better.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Braindead » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:16 am

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Just going off these stats alone Wood is a little over a 1 in 3 striker at a lower level than he is moving too.

To put it into context £16m for chicharito and £20m for Wood they are not even anywhere near close in ability.

We have massively overpaid and it's a very Dyche like underwhelming signing.
Or of course, I know it's a rare thing on here, but you could always wait until he has played for Burnley before you decide if we have overpaid or not - you know what I mean - judge him AFTER we have signed him and he has actually pulled on a shirt?
Just a thought
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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:17 am

Vokes 12 goals in 65 Premier League games.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:22 am

Braindead wrote:Or of course, I know it's a rare thing on here, but you could always wait until he has played for Burnley before you decide if we have overpaid or not - you know what I mean - judge him AFTER we have signed him and he has actually pulled on a shirt?
Just a thought
But then you run the risk of not being able to come back on here in a years time to tell everyone i told you all he'd be no good, too much money, a very underwhelming Dyche signing etc etc. If you post the same on every player Dyche signs then you are bound to get lucky on one who doesn't turn out to be as good as he should be.

Miles more fun than your crazy idea of giving them a chance in a Burnley shirt first to see what they are like.
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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by MarkFord » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:23 am

Leeds fan in peace

reading a few post, it seems you are split on here when it comes to Wood, you shouldn't be, you have got yourself a good striker, who if you play to his strengths will score goals, played his best football when playing on is own, big strong and physical, and knows where the net is - he improved massively since his Leicester/West Brom days, he seem to up his game when James Beattie joined our coaching team,

but i must say i cant see how he teams up with Barnes or Vokes, he linked up better with smaller more technical player, for us it was Pablo Hernandez, lookig at your squad im not sure who that would be??

for Leeds, we have also done well out of the deal, 16m plus is good money for a championship forward, and that sort of money gets you 3/4 good players at our level

you have got yourself a good player, who i would say is an improvement on Barnes and Vokes

good luck for the season
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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Right_winger » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:23 am

We shall see but £20m for Wood is a way over the top especially for a 1 in 3 career striker. If we had paid £4-£5m for him and he was coming as a replacement for Barnes then fair enough, but at that price he has to be considered our number 1.

Now we have no excuse about not spending money on bringing in Keane's replacement and hopefully a fast attacking wide player. If Wood is that excuse then it shows Dyches limitations on recruitment

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by RVclaret » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:25 am

MarkFord wrote:Leeds fan in peace

reading a few post, it seems you are split on here when it comes to Wood, you shouldn't be, you have got yourself a good striker, who if you play to his strengths will score goals, played his best football when playing on is own, big strong and physical, and knows where the net is - he improved massively since his Leicester/West Brom days, he seem to up his game when James Beattie joined our coaching team,

but i must say i cant see how he teams up with Barnes or Vokes, he linked up better with smaller more technical player, for us it was Pablo Hernandez, lookig at your squad im not sure who that would be??

for Leeds, we have also done well out of the deal, 16m plus is good money for a championship forward, and that sort of money gets you 3/4 good players at our level

good luck for the season
I agree with you when it comes to the strike partnerships. That's where it's a bit of a strange one I guess. No doubt he's a quality player though. If we sign Andone and flog Barnes it would make a lot more sense.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by dsr » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:26 am

Jamie Vardy, when he was 25, scored 4 goals in 25 games in the Championship. Some players just develop later. I'm with braindead - I'll judge him on what he does for Burnley, not what he may or may not have done for anyone else.

In Dyche we trust? Of course. It amazes me that there's anyone, after the last five years, that at the very least won't give Dyche the benefit of the doubt. Obviously he isn't perfect, so you can look back with hindsight and point at mistakes; but to look at a man who hasn't yet played for us and say "Sean Dyche thinks he's good enough, I don't, Dyche is wrong" seems a bit over-self-confident.
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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by nil_desperandum » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:26 am

Those charts don't reveal how many of those appearances were when he came on as a late substitute - something which - without checking - I think was quite frequent in his time at Leicester.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by dsr » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:30 am

nil_desperandum wrote:Those charts don't reveal how many of those appearances were when he came on as a late substitute - something which - without checking - I think was quite frequent in his time at Leicester.
The same point works either way. Either he wasn't scoring many goals, or else he wasn't good enough to get into a Leicester side that scraped into the play-offs. Either way, he wasn't doing as well for Leicester as Wood did for Leeds last year.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Tall Paul » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:31 am

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Just going off these stats alone Wood is a little over a 1 in 3 striker at a lower level than he is moving too.

To put it into context £16m for chicharito and £20m for Wood they are not even anywhere near close in ability.

We have massively overpaid and it's a very Dyche like underwhelming signing.
How many of those 265 career appearances were as a substitute?

Edit - Looks like nil_d beat me to it.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by clarethomer » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:34 am

Squiff wrote:I've always been one of the "in Dyche we trust" brigade, but for the life in me, I can't believe we've spent all that money on that lump of wood, ffs!!! If it's true, I sincerely hope he proves me wrong, but I've quite a few mates who are Leeds fans and they are actually ******* themselves at the thought of us paying all that money for him,. I can't shift this feeling of ffs...

When we got Vokes - he couldn't hit a barn door according to our disillusioned Yorkshire friends.

He went on to do OK things.

You can't base your decision on a player from the fans of a club they were at imo. There are too many variables that mean that the player they know may not be the player we get.

For example on a general scale - they may not like the management style, they may have been played out of position, they may have had issues with others in the dressing room, they may not like the training regime etc. The coaches may not have got the best out of them etc.

All the above could work in the opposite too. You may think you have a brilliant player but our approach isn't a good fit in the end. You just need to accept that the player has had due diligence done by the club and take heart in that you know about the dry powder cupboard and for us to spend this amount, we must believe strongly enough that we are getting a player we value.
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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by dpinsussex » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:38 am

Walt wrote:Must have fallen through 10 has come and gone. :lol:
More like the club is waiting on Claret Tony to finish writing his article :)
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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Tall Paul » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:39 am

To answer my own question, it looks like 81 substitute appearances, which makes his record 87 goals in 181 starts, which is equivalent to almost 1 in every 2 starts.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by kentonclaret » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:41 am

It is reported that Chicharito (Javier Hernandez0 demanded £140k a week in wages from West Ham in order for the £16m transfer to be completed. The fee paid to the selling club is only part of the story. The actual fees paid for the two players is worlds apart.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:42 am

Jimmy McIlroy cost £7,000 from Glentoran in 1950.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by TVC15 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:46 am

Right_winger wrote:We shall see but £20m for Wood is a way over the top especially for a 1 in 3 career striker. If we had paid £4-£5m for him and he was coming as a replacement for Barnes then fair enough, but at that price he has to be considered our number 1.

Now we have no excuse about not spending money on bringing in Keane's replacement and hopefully a fast attacking wide player. If Wood is that excuse then it shows Dyches limitations on recruitment
Sounds like it's nearer to £15m than £20m.

The championships leading goal scorer was never going to be sold for £4m to £5m was he ?

Even in "old money" pre the current madness previous top or 20 plus goal scorers have gone for between £12m and £16m (Hogan - £15m ; McMomack £12m ; Assombolonga - £16m and a number more I could list).

Chris Wood's tally last year was more than any of the above managed so whether you believe he is the right type of Burnley or not it's difficult to argue he is over priced in this market.

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Sidney1st » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:47 am

Right_winger wrote:
Just going off these stats alone Wood is a little over a 1 in 3 striker at a lower level than he is moving too.

To put it into context £16m for chicharito and £20m for Wood they are not even anywhere near close in ability.

We have massively overpaid and it's a very Dyche like underwhelming signing.
Right_winger wrote:We shall see but £20m for Wood is a way over the top especially for a 1 in 3 career striker. If we had paid £4-£5m for him and he was coming as a replacement for Barnes then fair enough, but at that price he has to be considered our number 1.

Now we have no excuse about not spending money on bringing in Keane's replacement and hopefully a fast attacking wide player. If Wood is that excuse then it shows Dyches limitations on recruitment
We've all been underwhelmed with various signings by Dyche/the club and excited about others.

As for limitations, are you referring to Dyche's or the clubs recruitment team?
You're aware of the comments elsewhere on here about 5 potential deals currently ongoing aren't you?

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by Dyched » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:48 am

This has me feeling a bit Jutkiewicz

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Re: Chris Wood's medical

Post by SkiptonClaret » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:50 am

Dyched wrote:This has me feeling a bit Jutkiewicz
Bit harsh ! (But a lot more expensive).

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