
Bullshit man
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Re: Bullshit man
Which part was bullshit?
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Re: Bullshit man
So the first question is did we spend?
Secondly did we spend more than last season?
This is before any money recouped.
Secondly did we spend more than last season?
This is before any money recouped.
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Re: Bullshit man
Have we not spent just shy of £40 million this window, which is more than last summer?
So which part is bullshit?
So which part is bullshit?
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Re: Bullshit man
We've broken our transfer record again.
We spent a further £10 million on Cork.
Add in another £5-6 million on Taylor and Bardsley and we spent round about £30 million.
Yes we've recouped more than that, but we did go out and spend the money.
We spent a further £10 million on Cork.
Add in another £5-6 million on Taylor and Bardsley and we spent round about £30 million.
Yes we've recouped more than that, but we did go out and spend the money.
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Re: Bullshit man
DRY POWDER LODZ!
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And, the £32 million quoted is summer and winter transfer windows, isn't it? I'd have liked to see us spend more now, considering the additional sales but calling out the chairman is not correct.
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Re: Bullshit man
We have but if you take into account the money we got in transfer fees we havnt really spent much . Dyche should of been given some of that money so he can get other targets . Who knows he might get to spend it in januaryBraindead wrote:Have we not spent just shy of £40 million this window, which is more than last summer?
So which part is bullshit?
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Re: Bullshit man
The blame for what? Being in the Premier League?!MACCA wrote:Blame is firmly st his door again, shame too many became a sucker for his BS agaim
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Defence is much, much weaker than it was last season. It's unforgivable putting the club in such danger, having only one PL class central defender in there
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Re: Bullshit man
Summer 2012 it was when Garlick first became chairman, jointly initially with John B. We were a Championship club going nowhere really at the time but in his five years, he and John selected and appointed Sean Dyche, we've won a promotion to the Premier League, then a second promotion after going down, and now we've stayed in the Premier League.
Some of you must take some pleasing to either start this thread or agree with it.
Some of you must take some pleasing to either start this thread or agree with it.
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Re: Bullshit man
The point is though Garlick didn't bullshit. I agree, I think we will spend big on someone in January if we need to.Reecey1987 wrote:We have but if you take into account the money we got in transfer fees we havnt really spent much . Dyche should of been given some of that money so he can get other targets . Who knows he might get to spend it in january
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Re: Bullshit man
Dyche has always said that a new CB wasn't a priority. I don't understand why people are surprised when we haven't then got one.
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Since this time last season when the window shut we have spent £56 million on players
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Re: Bullshit man
We're surprised because our 'three' centre backs are Mee, Tarky and Long.brigante wrote:Dyche has always said that a new CB wasn't a priority. I don't understand why people are surprised when we haven't then got one.
Does he know something we don't?
Like I've said many times, we have to trust the chap however unhappy or mind blown we are, because he's given us no reason not to.
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Re: Bullshit man
When are people going to realise what and who we are, for crying out loud ?
I love the people who know what it takes to run a club like ours and what the
parameters are with regards to finance, personality, suitability and availability.
It's borne out of total ignorance and is embarrassing.
I love the people who know what it takes to run a club like ours and what the
parameters are with regards to finance, personality, suitability and availability.
It's borne out of total ignorance and is embarrassing.
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Re: Bullshit man
The accounts will show we spent more in the transfer window than we ever have before. No bullsh1t to be seen here.
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Re: Bullshit man
well, before this stupid transfer day dawned, we were, and still are looking good. bollo..s to agents.
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Re: Bullshit man
And I thought arsenal fans were deluded.
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Re: Bullshit man
Only people we can have a dig at imho are our foreign scouts. Unless we get taken over by some foreign billionaire then Garlick and co will do the best they can and that is all I will ever ask. I do have to question our scouts though. I'm 70% happy with our window which is probably 40% more than I expected to be. I hope they are already looking into deals for January though
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And received more in fees than we ever have, we have spent fk all, infact we've made a profit in the window. Interestingly in 15/16, I claimed we spent alot to gain promotion and was told by the majority that net spend was the only thing to look at. Interesting how net spend now means fk all because it doesnt back a certain view.martin_p wrote:The accounts will show we spent more in the transfer window than we ever have before. No bullsh1t to be seen here.
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Hung Dyche out to dry yet again
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Re: Bullshit man
You're being a knobhead, yet again.KRBFC wrote:Hung Dyche out to dry yet again
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Re: Bullshit man
That's not fair on knobheads!Bin Ont Turf wrote:You're being a knobhead, yet again.
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Re: Bullshit man
You're right in regards to our net spend showing we've made a profit and it is being ignored.KRBFC wrote:And received more in fees than we ever have, we have spent fk all, infact we've made a profit in the window. Interestingly in 15/16, I claimed we spent alot to gain promotion and was told by the majority that net spend was the only thing to look at. Interesting how net spend now means fk all because it doesnt back a certain view.
However we did go out and spend the money and the only area we haven't really strengthened is CB.
Net spend shows us in profit though.
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Be interesting to see you explain that one.KRBFC wrote:Hung Dyche out to dry yet again
Maybe Dyche is happy with the squad he's got?
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Re: Bullshit man
What a load of ********!
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Re: Bullshit man
Shocking news!
Burnley make net profit in transfer dealings.
I hope everyone concerned is ashamed of themselves.
Burnley make net profit in transfer dealings.
I hope everyone concerned is ashamed of themselves.
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Re: Bullshit man
At the end of the window
Newcastle - have no left backs
Brighton - have one striker, and haven't scored a premier league goal yet
I'm sure that there are more, but every club comes out of the these stupid windows with gaps in their team.
Our gap is a 4th choice centre half. Not ideal, but not worthy of the reaction its getting
Newcastle - have no left backs
Brighton - have one striker, and haven't scored a premier league goal yet
I'm sure that there are more, but every club comes out of the these stupid windows with gaps in their team.
Our gap is a 4th choice centre half. Not ideal, but not worthy of the reaction its getting
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We have a whole array of different fans. I said yesterday that we could sign Messi and we'd still have some fans moaning because we didn't sign Ronaldo!ClaretTony wrote:Summer 2012 it was when Garlick first became chairman, jointly initially with John B. We were a Championship club going nowhere really at the time but in his five years, he and John selected and appointed Sean Dyche, we've won a promotion to the Premier League, then a second promotion after going down, and now we've stayed in the Premier League.
Some of you must take some pleasing to either start this thread or agree with it.
We've spent a lot of money again this summer and we've strengthened the squad in pretty much all areas. We're much stronger at full back and in centre mid, and we've clearly got vastly more options up front. Yes it would have been nice to bring in a CB and a right winger but they have to be available under our financial model.
It's almost like people forget thd window opens again in January. We can reassess then and bring in the reinforcements we need.
It's a great time to be a Burnley fan.
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Buying back the ground and we now have a fantastic training ground. Add to that an improved academy. He's failed miserably hasn't he. Maybe you should've sat down and had a cup of tea before you posted this thread.
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Don't see much wrong with the quotes from Garlick. He said there was a higher budget available. That doesn't mean that it will be spent. For all we know, Dyche may well be happy with the squad he's got so no further signings were necessary. We know that he's fairly cautious with regard to who he brings in and rightfully so. Don't get me wrong, yesterday was a disappointment to me as well. I feel we could have done better than Nakhi Wells and that we need a CB. However, the business we have done has been good. We're 1 of only 4 PL to have made a profit which, based on the ingoings and outgoings, is pretty good business.
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CLARETS chairman Mike Garlick has revealed that Burnley are set to "BREAK THE BANK" in this summer’s transfer window.
The problem with the first sentence in this so called article is that it's not factually correct.
Definition of "Break The Bank" is : "cost more than one can afford."
The tone of the article is set in the first sentence in an attempt to sway the weak minded.
If you actually take time to read the article, (missing out the dross written by The Blackburn based LET) Garlick's quotes in isolation read more realistically.
The problem with the first sentence in this so called article is that it's not factually correct.
Definition of "Break The Bank" is : "cost more than one can afford."
The tone of the article is set in the first sentence in an attempt to sway the weak minded.
If you actually take time to read the article, (missing out the dross written by The Blackburn based LET) Garlick's quotes in isolation read more realistically.
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Re: Bullshit man
Spending 80million in two years is not bullshit,The more we do the more is expected? utc we are Burnley fc.
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Spot on. It's only the direct quotes that matter and there is nothing wrong with them.billyhamilton82 wrote:CLARETS chairman Mike Garlick has revealed that Burnley are set to "BREAK THE BANK" in this summer’s transfer window.
The problem with the first sentence in this so called article is that it's not factually correct.
Definition of "Break The Bank" is : "cost more than one can afford."
The tone of the article is set in the first sentence in an attempt to sway the weak minded.
If you actually take time to read the article, (missing out the dross written by The Blackburn based LET) Garlick's quotes in isolation read more realistically.
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That's not quite right, Lancaster, in my view at least.Lancasterclaret wrote:At the end of the window
Newcastle - have no left backs
Brighton - have one striker, and haven't scored a premier league goal yet
I'm sure that there are more, but every club comes out of the these stupid windows with gaps in their team.
Our gap is a 4th choice centre half. Not ideal, but not worthy of the reaction its getting
It's not a fourth choice centre back that is missing, it's someone to provide genuine competition for one of Mee or Tarkowski. Just as we have for Ward, for example.
It's a concern that we are an injury or two away from left backs or untried players playing the key role of centre back, which seems to be an unnecessary risk.
This squad is relying heavily on the likes of Arfield who can be utilised in a number of positions but for me, a long term requirement of Arfield in central midfield, for example, leaves us significantly weaker.
He will always do a job, as he did at Spurs, but he's not a long term option in the middle, just as Long and one of the full backs are not long term options at centre half.
I appreciate it's difficult to find players that may be prepared to bide their time (but we've done it with plenty of the current squad). That's what we need though, a few more that are squad fillers whilst genuinely being ones for the future - our reserves aren't delivering that yet.
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I think on balance this is probably the best transfer window we've ever had.
So we missed out on a few targets, well so did Chelsea and Liverpool and Arsenal, even in the heady echelons of the billionaire owners there is a price that isn't enough. Why some people think that doesn't apply to little old Burnley is mind numbingly stupid.
Jack Cork already looks a cracking player, not only for his own game, but getting the best from Defour.
Woods has broken his duck really early, and the signs are that with his ability to run the right lines, and find space in the box, plenty more goals will follow.
Nakhi Wells showed last season that he scores all sorts of goals, and complements the squad perfectly. His interview on signing showed he is a clever, down to earth character, who will fit in with the club perfectly.
Charlie Taylor has already shown that he brings so much game to the side, and it's only the efforts of Wardy that's keeping him out of the side.
Walters and Bardsley are excellent back up, with loads of experience, and both are winners. They never give up. So many talented footballers fail because they don't have that winning mentality.
When you judge our transfer business on how much we've spent, rather than what we've actually brought in, you're not living on this planet.
So we missed out on a few targets, well so did Chelsea and Liverpool and Arsenal, even in the heady echelons of the billionaire owners there is a price that isn't enough. Why some people think that doesn't apply to little old Burnley is mind numbingly stupid.
Jack Cork already looks a cracking player, not only for his own game, but getting the best from Defour.
Woods has broken his duck really early, and the signs are that with his ability to run the right lines, and find space in the box, plenty more goals will follow.
Nakhi Wells showed last season that he scores all sorts of goals, and complements the squad perfectly. His interview on signing showed he is a clever, down to earth character, who will fit in with the club perfectly.
Charlie Taylor has already shown that he brings so much game to the side, and it's only the efforts of Wardy that's keeping him out of the side.
Walters and Bardsley are excellent back up, with loads of experience, and both are winners. They never give up. So many talented footballers fail because they don't have that winning mentality.
When you judge our transfer business on how much we've spent, rather than what we've actually brought in, you're not living on this planet.
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Re: Bullshit man
I take your points DCWat, but even with our new found wealth its hard to get a squad of genuine premier league quality players in every position, especially when you lose better players to bigger teams as well.
You've nailed the problem I think in your post with your last line. We got Keane because we saw the potential and got him, while other clubs just saw his performances under Van Gaal, and then we turned him into an England centre half. I'm guessing we were looking for something similar this time around, and for whatever reason we couldn't find him.
Annoying that we've potentially left ourselves in a bad situation, but it does show the confidence that the manager has in Mee, Tarks and Long.
You've nailed the problem I think in your post with your last line. We got Keane because we saw the potential and got him, while other clubs just saw his performances under Van Gaal, and then we turned him into an England centre half. I'm guessing we were looking for something similar this time around, and for whatever reason we couldn't find him.
Annoying that we've potentially left ourselves in a bad situation, but it does show the confidence that the manager has in Mee, Tarks and Long.
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I fully concur.Colburn_Claret wrote:
When you judge our transfer business on how much we've spent, rather than what we've actually brought in, you're not living on this planet.
There's no reason We couldn't have got in a 2/3m Ryan shotton/harlee Dean in as cover in the event of a crisis.
It wouldn't of* cost the earth, even arguably at the expense of Walters, Wells or Taylor as those areas are arguably covered by or can be covered by others already here.
It just looks a little bit naive, and with us having been bitten before, I thought we would of* not taken any risks where possible.
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But there's no reason to buy a player for the sake of it. Maybe SD didn't fancy Shotton or Dean.MACCA wrote:I fully concur.
There's no reason We couldn't have got in a 2/3m Ryan shotton/harlee Dean in as cover in the event of a crisis.
It wouldn't of* cost the earth, even arguably at the expense of Walters, Wells or Taylor as those areas are arguably covered by or can be covered by others already here.
It just looks a little bit naive, and with us having been bitten before, I thought we would of* not taken any risks where possible.
I think if the 'right CB' was available we would have been interested, BUT if they're not we are better off going with what we have.
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For a bit of perspective (copied from Dave Roberts on Twitter)
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Now now KR I showed you how we had made a loss on net spend on the other thread and you actually said good post.Now you have gone back to saying we have made a profi because it suits your purpose to have a go at the Board again.KRBFC wrote:And received more in fees than we ever have, we have spent fk all, infact we've made a profit in the window. Interestingly in 15/16, I claimed we spent alot to gain promotion and was told by the majority that net spend was the only thing to look at. Interesting how net spend now means fk all because it doesnt back a certain view.
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If Garlick really did mean that we'd spend more than ever but only if you didn't net off the huge fees received, he was being seriously disingenuous.
The squad is in some respects stronger. But there are glaring omissions in the squad and no club that has established itself at this level (as we did last season) should need to take that chance - especially when its youth set up is not yet strong enough to provide last resort cover. As it is, instead of really strengthening the squad, we're stockpiling vast cash reserves. It doesn't yet feel aa though the club believes it can emulate the likes if Swansea in stopping up for a period of years.
If we go down this season due to the lack of a fourth centre half, then make no mistake, we'll have underachieved and squandered a golden opportunity to build a real dynasty at Burnley which leaves a legacy for the next 40 years - not in terms of training facilities, but in terms of refreshing the supporter base so that we have the strength to sustain the club at the sort of level weve been at for the last 17 years.
The squad is in some respects stronger. But there are glaring omissions in the squad and no club that has established itself at this level (as we did last season) should need to take that chance - especially when its youth set up is not yet strong enough to provide last resort cover. As it is, instead of really strengthening the squad, we're stockpiling vast cash reserves. It doesn't yet feel aa though the club believes it can emulate the likes if Swansea in stopping up for a period of years.
If we go down this season due to the lack of a fourth centre half, then make no mistake, we'll have underachieved and squandered a golden opportunity to build a real dynasty at Burnley which leaves a legacy for the next 40 years - not in terms of training facilities, but in terms of refreshing the supporter base so that we have the strength to sustain the club at the sort of level weve been at for the last 17 years.
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Whilst I can't understand the defensive situation at all there's no bullshit. The budget can be there even if we don't spend it. It also includes wages and these will have gone up. The main issue is if the market moves and we are desperate in Jan we may end up paying more.
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I think we're a lot stronger now than we were this time last year, player wise and also with the experience of another 12 months in the Premier League.
I'm sure, if required we'll buy what we need in January or next summer. The amount of 'fans' screaming for the club to spend every penny we have is seriously laughable as are the suggestions that the board are fleecing the club.
Give your heads a wobble, we're in an amazing position.
I'm sure, if required we'll buy what we need in January or next summer. The amount of 'fans' screaming for the club to spend every penny we have is seriously laughable as are the suggestions that the board are fleecing the club.
Give your heads a wobble, we're in an amazing position.
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Imagine the reaction on here if we'd signed someone like Shotton or Harlee Dean.
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Worth remembering that three clubs go down, regardless of what is spent on 4th choice centre halves.
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Why would we be spending on a 4the choice centre back, rather than someone to challenge to be a starting player?Lancasterclaret wrote:Worth remembering that three clubs go down, regardless of what is spent on 4th choice centre halves.
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Not true Sidney net spend shows we made a loss.Only in KR's mind did we make a profit.I am not going to go through it all again here but see the thread where the net profit was discussed and my post where KR said it was a good post.Sidney1st wrote:You're right in regards to our net spend showing we've made a profit and it is being ignored.
However we did go out and spend the money and the only area we haven't really strengthened is CB.
Net spend shows us in profit though.
The thread title was"our net spend this window"
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The same as Wells or Bardlsey at worst, until you realise he's 4th choice and will play a handful of games at best, used in a crisis or the 3rd round of FA cup when wanting to rest players, or them avoid injuries or suspensions.Tall Paul wrote:Imagine the reaction on here if we'd signed someone like Shotton or Harlee Dean.
Instead we will risk 1 of our first choice CB, possibly both if Long is injured.
It's negligent on our part, when we arguably have more players who can/have played left back than you have CB.