No further deals

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:19 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Who's Tarky's replacement then?

At the end of last season we had Keane and Mee injured which meant Long and Tarky coming in.

If the same happens this season we'll have Long and Taylor coming in.

And that isn't f***ing good enough.

Based on last season Tark/Long as a pairing simply aren't good enough, If Mee gets injured we look fooked.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:19 pm

BFC88 wrote:I may also add it was such a great opportunity to build on the momentum of the positive start to the season. This will rightly leave a lot of fans deflated when there was absolutely no need or excuse.

So let me get this straight, because we didn't sign a CB the points we got at Chelsea and Spurs don't count?

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:20 pm

burnley007 wrote:A shambolic window. Again. Embarrassingly bare in defence. Tons of mediocrity up front. No pace.

Not good enough.
Garlick has been made to look a fool.

It's not been a 'great window' but shambolic is way over the top.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:21 pm

The results have papered over the cracks

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:21 pm

KRBFC wrote:I forgot to add, we sold two of our better players for £30M. Sold far too early, rookies in the market it will probably never change.

Nowt to do with that.

If they are in the last year of the contract and they aren't for signing another, the manager and club want them gone.

It's all about being a team across the whole club.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:21 pm

If this if that.

Maybe the club looked into the possibility of acquiring a new center half. But they wasn't a good deal to be had so they decided against it and will revaluate in January.

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:22 pm

dsr wrote:Can you please look at the side that played Tottenham last Sunday and analyse where everything has gone so very wrong?

The concern isn't the side that played against Tottenham.

The legitimate and very real concern is when injuries and suspensions take their toll, and we're suddenly looking very light in key positions.

We had two defenders out last year at the same time in Mee and Keane. We're now in a ludicrous position where this can't happen.

welsbyswife · Post by **welsbyswife** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:23 pm

Good window for me. Not everything we might want but not many clubs seem to have been able to strengthen everywhere they might need. And it's great to see the positive endorsement given by the Burnley faithful on here to Long who has done well and deserves his chance as a back up centre half. Nothing like supporting your own.

DuckworthsEA · Post by **DuckworthsEA** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:23 pm

KRBFC wrote:The results have papered over the cracks

What cracks are those then?

Claretforever · Post by **Claretforever** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:24 pm

All a bit 'meh' for me. I believe we've improved the squad, but feel we could have stuck our neck out a little first for a new centre back. Tarks and Mee are fine for me, and I don't dislike Long at all, but I really think we should have spent to get a really good replacement in. Who? Haven't the foggiest.

Can we bring loans in after the window or is that just EFL? I forget.

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:26 pm

Dyched wrote:If this if that.

Maybe the club looked into the possibility of acquiring a new center half. But they wasn't a good deal to be had so they decided against it and will revaluate in January.

This.

It wouldn't surprise me if we broke our transfer record again in January should the need arise in a particular area.
Overall we are a stronger first 18 than last season with much higher quality cover in all areas except centre half. If the worst happens and we lose either Tarkowski or Mee, I still reckon that, given a run of games, Long could turn into a decent defender.

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:26 pm

burnley007 wrote:A shambolic window. Again. Embarrassingly bare in defence. Tons of mediocrity up front. No pace.

Not good enough.
Garlick has been made to look a fool.

Go and support another team then if you don't like ours.ours is doing pretty well at the moment.Some of you don't deserve the team and success we are having at the moment.Plastic fans.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:31 pm

A bad injury to Brady and Mee and we are in trouble

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:31 pm

Apparently Middlesbrough fans still talk with pride about the two fantastic transfer windows they had last season.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:32 pm

I'm just here to see the meltdowns.

Not been disappointed so far.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:33 pm

Claretforever wrote:All a bit 'meh' for me. I believe we've improved the squad, but feel we could have stuck our neck out a little first for a new centre back. Tarks and Mee are fine for me, and I don't dislike Long at all, but I really think we should have spent to get a really good replacement in. Who? Haven't the foggiest.

Can we bring loans in after the window or is that just EFL? I forget.

Just free agents

bf2k · Post by **bf2k** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:33 pm

Seriously do PC World sell laptops in Burnley for deadline day with a PANIC button?

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:34 pm

Dsr do you not understand that players always get it injured and suspended.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:36 pm

MDWat wrote:Would have liked a winger too but hey, I'm still delightedly Boyd has gone so I can give the 3 key on my keyboard a rest.

I've sold it to a Sheffield Wednesday message board

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:38 pm

Claretforever wrote:Can we bring loans in after the window or is that just EFL? I forget.

It was just the Football League clubs but they can't either now - emergency loan system no longer exists.

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:40 pm

If it's good enough for dyche, then I'm happy with what we got! Utc

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:43 pm

Glad it's all over now! Would've liked a pacy winger to give us something different. That aside, we have a much stronger squad than we did last season and are looking every bit a premier league side.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:44 pm

martin_p wrote:Apparently Middlesbrough fans still talk with pride about the two fantastic transfer windows they had last season.

And Hull's January window was the stuff of legends. It made their season.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:45 pm

Its been a strange window for me. We've lost 4 starters from the end of last season - Keane, Barton, Boyd and Gray. Gray and Boyd I'm a bit meh about. We seem to be 50/50 about Gray and 70/30 against Boyd on here. I think we've brought in 2 1st teamers in Cork and Wood (who I believe will be the 1 in a 4-5-1). then we've got JBG who spent most of the season injured (although it remains to be seen if he can do a job at this level) and the big one for me, Defour. He is like the best signing we could have hoped for in this window in my opinion but we seem to overlook him when talking about strengthening the 1st 11. I've no idea where Wells fits in and my only worry is keeping that number of strikers happy if there's only one position available. Thats where SD's group mentality really kicks in.

After the Spurs game I think Tarks will be sound, he just needs a run of games and some confidence. Giving him the armband against Rovers was SD's way of saying I believe in you and, judging by his performance at Wembley, it was a master stroke. SD is clearly happy with the CBs he has with Taylor as the back up to Long, who I think is very underrated.

He must see Walters as the 2nd option for right midfield as we haven't heard much speculation of us chasing a specialist winger in this window.

I was hoping for another Craig Dawson, Aaron Lennon and a youthful Gianfranco Zola number 10. Never going to happen.

Cannot wait for Palace, bring it on!

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:55 pm

Barton was a marginal starter last season. He only started 12 games, of which we won 2; plus his 2 sub appearances, one against Southampton where he scored the winning goal. I reckon the addition of Cork plus the improved form of Defour and Brady more than makes up for the loss of Barton and Boyd. Wood looked much more involved against Tottenham than Gray generally was last year (small sample size I know), and while we couldn't expect to replace Keane with an equivalent standard player, Tarkowski looks pretty good to me.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Wells play as the wide midfielder. With a 5-man midfield, there's a bit more scope for the wide men to join the centre forward as auxiliary forwards.

Oshkoshclaret · Post by **Oshkoshclaret** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:57 pm

I think Dyche has made it clear he sees Taylor as CB cover. This was an OK window. The manager and his backroom team have earned my trust. £25 million for Keane seemed like a bargain price at the time and I think we could have got £10 million more by waiting and playing hardball. Wood for Gray seems like a fair swap, Cork is a rock solid signing and Dyche-fit Defour and Brady are like two new quality signings.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:58 pm

Tarkowski looks pretty good to me. Yep, until he or Mee is injured and or Suspended

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:04 am

Being so quick to shift Keane was completely stupid. The only logic behind that is that we were sure of getting another body in. We havent and have lost another CB albeit one who has never played in Anderson.

Keane if he was leaving in August should have left today. And for a good deal more.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:05 am

Wokingclaret wrote:Tarkowski looks pretty good to me. Yep, until he or Mee is injured and or Suspended

Tarky looks indestructible to me.
It's not a disastrous window. I think some of you need to look at the bigger picture; we are not in the market for the majority of available players because we have a structure on pay in place, just live with it.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:08 am

I am living with it, just stating facts. Today part and parcel being a Burnley supporter

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:22 am

We've done pretty well in some areas and not so well in others. The centre half situation is absolutely bizarre, to be honest.

If someone had told me at the end of last season that come the 1st of September we'd only have Mee, Tarkowski and Long as centre backs, I would have told them to put the crack pipe down.

But that's where we are.

It just seems like a really, really big gamble on our part, and an unnecessary one, too.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:24 am

JohnMcGreal wrote:We've done pretty well in some areas and not so well in others. The centre half situation is absolutely bizarre, to be honest.

If someone had told me at the end of last season that come the 1st of September we'd only have Mee, Tarkowski and Long as centre backs, I would have told them to put the crack pipe down.

But that's where we are.

It just seems like a really, really big gamble on our part, and an unnecessary one, too.

Yes, unless we have tried and failed to get someone.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:43 am

For me I think the word Average sums up our Transfer Window signings

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:51 am

I will be honest, I would be underwhelmed if it was our defence in the championship. But life goes on.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:54 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Being so quick to shift Keane was completely stupid. The only logic behind that is that we were sure of getting another body in. We havent and have lost another CB albeit one who has never played in Anderson.

Keane if he was leaving in August should have left today. And for a good deal more.

We weren't quick. It was clearly on the cards that Keane was going to move. We couldn't any way but who would want to stop him from trying to further his career and trebling his wages. SD has clearly thought of Tarks as his replacement for the whole of last season and told him to bide his time. He's just come good with his promise and after Spurs it's difficult to argue with. I know its only one game but I think the foundations are there. £30M is decent for a player with 12 months left. You clearly spent your Wood goal winnings on miserable pills. Just wish I'd have lumped on when you said

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:57 am

Rumbletonk wrote:We weren't quick. It was clearly on the cards that Keane was going to move. We couldn't any way but who would want to stop him from trying to further his career and trebling his wages. SD has clearly thought of Tarks as his replacement for the whole of last season and told him to bide his time. He's just come good with his promise and after Spurs it's difficult to argue with. I know its only one game but I think the foundations are there. £30M is decent for a player with 12 months left. You clearly spent your Wood goal winnings on miserable pills. Just wish I'd have lumped on when you said

For all any of us knows the Keane deal was struck 12 months ago.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:00 am

I think Tarks was promised a shot, knowing that Keane was off to a bigger club. Just a well handled situation as far as I can see

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:08 am

Keane strikes me as an honest, sensible man who would have spoken to SD (a man he holds in high regard) about his ambitions. There is no way on this Earth that an 1st/2nd choice England CB is going to stay at Burnley and the management team have made sure they have a replacement 12 months in advance. I thought he was poor for the last few games of last season and doubted him to fill that role. The Spurs game showed I know very little and SD knows his business, yet again.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:14 am

We have received £18M for Keane, forget the £30M figure its nonsense and makes the sale sound better than it is. We paid £6m to Utd and rest is installments we may never see. The board knew they would receive just £18M when the offer was on the table, yet they took it without hesitation. They shot our team in the foot over £18M and allocated nothing from this years income or the remaining money from last season. Dyche was scraping the barrel to bring in quantity over quality because the only funds available were from sales. The best financial position we've ever been in and we had to sell before we could buy, a f*** ing disgrace. 14/ 15 all over again, 7 signings at a total cost of approximately £35M, £5M a man on average. We have lost 4 key players from last season and replaced only Barton. Dyche didnt want the cheap options like Taylor, Reid, Juke and Sordell in 2014, he had no option but to sign sh***, nothing has changed at this club and it never will.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:24 am

Whilst I agree we maybe should have looked for a more experienced CB the one thing Dyche is really good at is setting up a defence. If he reckons Taylor can play CB then Taylor can play CB, at the end of the day it's Dyche's reputation in the line. I think it would be very fair to say that Mee, Lowton and Ward have improved a huge amount since coming to Burnley so there is nothing to suggest that the same won't be true of Tarks, Taylor and Long given game time.
Having said all that I'm still ****** off we missed out on Neymar and Mbappe, no ******* ambition

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:27 am

KRBFC wrote:We have received £18M for Keane, forget the £30M figure its nonsense and makes the sale sound better than it is. We paid £6m to Utd and rest is installments we may never see. The board knew they would receive just £18M when the offer was on the table, yet they took it without hesitation. They shot our team in the foot over £18M and allocated nothing from this years income or the remaining money from last season. Dyche was scraping the barrel to bring in quantity over quality because the only funds available were from sales. The best financial position we've ever been in and we had to sell before we could buy, a f*** ing disgrace. 14/ 15 all over again, 7 signings at a total cost of approximately £35M, £5M a man on average. We have lost 4 key players from last season and replaced only Barton. Dyche didnt want the cheap options like Taylor, Reid, Juke and Sordell in 2014, he had no option but to sign sh***, nothing has changed at this club and it never will.

there you go

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:35 am

KRBFC wrote:We have received £18M for Keane, forget the £30M figure its nonsense and makes the sale sound better than it is. We paid £6m to Utd and rest is installments we may never see. The board knew they would receive just £18M when the offer was on the table, yet they took it without hesitation. They shot our team in the foot over £18M and allocated nothing from this years income or the remaining money from last season. Dyche was scraping the barrel to bring in quantity over quality because the only funds available were from sales. The best financial position we've ever been in and we had to sell before we could buy, a f*** ing disgrace. 14/ 15 all over again, 7 signings at a total cost of approximately £35M, £5M a man on average. We have lost 4 key players from last season and replaced only Barton. Dyche didnt want the cheap options like Taylor, Reid, Juke and Sordell in 2014, he had no option but to sign sh***, nothing has changed at this club and it never will.

All reports said 25 rising to 30 or 31M for Keane. Where do you get the 18 from? You also don't mention Defour in any of that, why not?

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:38 am

14/15 we had Jones, Marney and Arfield as back up. If you can't see the improvement there then we'll have to agree to disagree and leave it here

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:55 am

Rumbletonk wrote:14/15 we had Jones, Marney and Arfield as back up. If you can't see the improvement there then we'll have to agree to disagree and leave it here

We also had Shackell, Mee, Keane, Long, Duff, Ward and Trippier.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:00 am

Taylor, Cork and Wood = really good acquisitions, but probably the best piece of business was retaining Defour. Wells may well prove a lot of people wrong. He's certainly two-footed, well-balanced and a natural scorer. The others: very good squad players.

I am concerned by the lack of a centre back, but seemingly SD isn't. For me, the lack of pace at the back is worrying.

Glad we didn't sell Barnes.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:11 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:We also had Shackell, Mee, Keane, Long, Duff, Ward and Trippier.

If you wanted a like for like for Englands CB and RB then you were always going to feel let down

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:04 am

Just had a quick read of a BHA forum. They are up in arms about failing to sign a striker.

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:32 am

Some on here need to get a life
I've never read such whinging drivel
Support a top six club if you want big name signings.
Fair play to all concerned at Burnley football club.
Looking forward to the season.

bumba · Post by **bumba** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:20 am

Its poor in terms of not signing a centre half or winger. An injury/suspension and were really up **** creek so yes we've added depth but enough depth in key areas? Not at all, in fact no where near.

Its like Dyche has given the board a list of options an they've signed cork an wood then signed the cheapest option for every other position he wanted or just not bothered we a few at all

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:51 am

Not a bad window but I am going to spend the next four months praying Mee and Tarks don't get inured. Bearing in mind monies generated from Keane and Gray's sales, we expected better players. But can't complain about results overall can we?