Chimney sweeps and wood burners

[CaptainKirk]

Looking to get my chimney swept and a liner fitted and buy a new wood burner and have it fitted. Any recommendations to be had?

[burnmark]

My next door neighbour sweeps chimneys.

Contact Ian on 07966 058403.

[Chester Perry]

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[Rowls]

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[ElectroClaret]

Mann's up Scotland Road in Nelson fit wood burners.
They're supposed to be very good.
They'll presumably advise you about your liner and getting it swept.

[RingoMcCartney]

Looking to get my chimney swept and a liner fitted and buy a new wood burner and have it fitted. Any recommendations to be had?

You may not necessarily need a liner. If the flu is in good serviceable order. If it's a house that was built with coal fires in mind. Then a retaining plate and a short flu up to, sealed, and slightly beyond could easily be adequate.

Save around 1200 quid on the supply and fitting of a, surplus to requirements, flu liner.

[CaptainKirk]

Cheers for the responses.
It is a (very) old flu which means it was definately built with real fires in mind I guess. Maybe I should get it swept first and get on site advice re a liner.

[Diesel]

Fit the burner yourself, you just need a good drill, heat resistant silicone, fire cement and a register plate, which you can get from this fella, who is a Claret and, I think sometime posts on here....

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[john'sroseyspecs]

Would recommend Andy at Chimneysweptclean.co.uk. based in Kelbrook. Excellent job and i think the front room was cleaner after he had been! Will also install. Don't do it yourself unless you really know what you're doing.

[RingoMcCartney]

Cheers for the responses.
It is a (very) old flu which means it was definately built with real fires in mind I guess. Maybe I should get it swept first and get on site advice re a liner.

Your sweep should have a couple of smoke bombs to test if the flu's sealed. Hell probably have a look in the loft to look for leaks. Ask his advice but I was told by a sweep that " these flus were designed to take the smoke from an open fire. A stove is far more efficient heat wise but there's no reason why a flu that was designed to take an open fire shouldn't cope with the smoke from a stove. You're less likely to get bits of stuff going up from a stove as you would with a fire"

[Amex]

Ensure if new fitted that it is HETAS approved or if the worst happened it could null and void your insurance

[Barry_Chuckle]

Had one fit 18 months ago, bought the burner online from Simply Stoves Ltd, they were the cheapest at £1100 for the burner I'd decided on.

Had if fit for £480 including register plate, cowell and new flu line with 15 year guarantee (where did you get £1200 quote for a flu liner Ringo?)

[Neilhaj]

Had one fit 18 months ago, bought the burner online from Simply Stoves Ltd, they were the cheapest at £1100 for the burner I'd decided on.

Had if fit for £480 including register plate, cowell and new flu line with 15 year guarantee (where did you get £1200 quote for a flu liner Ringo?)

Had one fit 18 months ago, bought the burner online from Simply Stoves Ltd, they were the cheapest at £1100 for the burner I'd decided on.

Had if fit for £480 including register plate, cowell and new flu line with 15 year guarantee (where did you get £1200 quote for a flu liner Ringo?)

£480 for supplying and installing is very cheap, my liner and parts probably cost close to that although mine was the better graded liner. Also worth checking your area, on Accrington we're only meant to have DEFRA approved stoves as it's a smokeless area.

[Barry_Chuckle]

Looks like I got a good deal then Neil

[RingoMcCartney]

Had one fit 18 months ago, bought the burner online from Simply Stoves Ltd, they were the cheapest at £1100 for the burner I'd decided on.

Had if fit for £480 including register plate, cowell and new flu line with 15 year guarantee (where did you get £1200 quote for a flu liner Ringo?)

A place in ramsbottom. I'd done some work for a guy and he was supplying my Morso, in return. He let me have it at trade and I think he was trying to make up on the supply and fitting of the liner and cowal. The sweep said there's no need so I didn't bother with the liner and just got a reatining plate and short stumpy flu.

The bloke I'd worked for was p***** off when I said I didn't want a liner.

[Barry_Chuckle]

Price I just found online........ price is per metre

Multi Fuel Chimney Liner - 125mm - 316/316 Grade
Price: £18.00 (Including VAT at 20%)

£28 Per meter for the better quality liner which comes with a 20 year warranty.

[RingoMcCartney]

Looking to get my chimney swept and a liner fitted and buy a new wood burner and have it fitted. Any recommendations to be had?

While I'm thinking.

There's really no need to go for a stove that's big on kw output.

Mines a 4.5 kw Morso in a larger than average lounge. It soon warms up! Roasting!

Measure your room and be conservative. Other wise you'll end up with having to open your windows and sitting there in your undies! No I'm not speaking from experience! But my mates! Middle of winter and you go round and him n his Mrs are sat there in their flip flops!!

Not a pretty sight!

[RingoMcCartney]

Price I just found online........ price is per metre

Multi Fuel Chimney Liner - 125mm - 316/316 Grade
Price: £18.00 (Including VAT at 20%)

£28 Per meter for the better quality liner which comes with a 20 year warranty.

To be fair. If he'd been a bit more realistic I'd have gone for a liner. It was only when he came out with the 1200 that I began to ask questions. Glad I did.

[Neilhaj]

Looks like I got a good deal then Neil

Ha or I got stung

I'm looking for a cowl replacement, my burner burns too fast even on closed vents so I need an anti down draft one.

[Barry_Chuckle]

Ringo makes a good point with regards to heat output, initially I looked at 7kw due to my cottage having an open staircase, I thought the heat would disappear upstairs and we'd be chilly sat in the room. We ended up with a Hunter 5kw and it heats the whole house, so much heat upstairs that we have to open the bedroom window when we go to bed because it's too warm.

It's worth mentioning, if you install a burner over 5kw you're supposed to install an air brick, without one your fitter wouldn't be able to provide the installation certificate.

[UpTheBeehole]

Emma Meaden loves to sit in her north-west London flat, her dogs napping at her feet, watching the flames dance in her new wood stove. When she first moved in, she lit a few fires in the old-fashioned fireplace – but it was a poor way to heat her sitting room and she was intrigued by the stoves she’d seen at friends’ homes in the country. Along with the savings on heating and the ambiance, Meaden liked the idea that wood was a renewable fuel – one that, she supposed, would shrink her carbon footprint. “I’m always trying to do the right thing,” she says.

Like Meaden, many Britons have embraced the cosy, hearth-and-home feeling of burning wood. The government has helped propagate the notion of wood as a renewable fuel that saves money and the environment alike – an image that stove manufacturers have happily seized upon for their marketing campaigns.


The truth, though, is less pleasant than those hygge fantasies. Wood smoke is thick with the tiny particulates, known as PM2.5, that are linked to heart attacks, strokes, cancer, dementia and various other ailments. What’s more, the claims about a climate benefit from wood use are questionable.

Cars and trucks get more attention but nationally, domestic wood burning is the largest single source of PM2.5. According to one analysis of government data, it produces more than twice as much as all road traffic. While concerns about diesel vehicles focus largely on the nitrogen dioxide they produce, the evidence tying particulates to death and disease is even more powerful.

According to Leigh Crilley, an atmospheric chemist at the University of Birmingham, wood smoke also carries more carcinogens than diesel or petrol exhaust.

The increasing popularity of wood fires, scientists warn, threatens to erase any progress big cities might achieve in reducing pollution from traffic. “It’s overtaking the gains we’re making,” Crilley said.

One study from 2014 found that wood smoke was adding more particle pollution to London’s air than the first two phases of the city’s low-emission zone were expected to remove. In London and Birmingham, King’s College researchers reported wood accounted for up to 31% of locally produced particulates. And across Europe, wood burning is worsening pollution in capitals such as Paris, Berlin and Lisbon.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018 ... -pollution

[Steve1956]

Looking to get my chimney swept and a liner fitted and buy a new wood burner and have it fitted. Any recommendations to be had?

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Always let the ash cool CK!

[Chobulous]

We always use Dr. Flue for getting our chimney swept.
07826 853843

[Jel]

Maybe not what you are looking for, but we have a Flueless gas stove. Apart from obviously not needing a flue its other big benefits are being 100% efficient, it's easy to light and it's clean.
No good for heating water but if you are just using it to heat the house then they are great.

[Herts Clarets]

Another one for not going over the top on heat output. We were limited with a 5" flue size, so went for a 5kw. My lounge is both large in footprint and has very high ceilings (in the region of 13ft high) and an open staircase onto a fair sized landing that overlooks the lounge. We have one radiator in the lounge and one on the landing. Really only need the burner on when it is very cold or if we want the cosiness of a fire. Once it has been burning for a couple of hours, the radiator is off, the vents closed to minimum and it is still very warm in the lounge. The flue from mine goes from the lounge and across into the chimney breast that runs from the kitchen into our bedroom to the chimney (mine is an old cottage with a huge extension that contains the lounge, 2 bedrooms and the landing. The heat from the flue also heats our bedroom which is in the cottage part and my daughter's bedroom which is above the lounge in the extension. I think the comparison with an open coal fire is 26% efficiency for the fire and 85% for the burner, so a massive difference in heat output.

Also, if you burn the smokeless coal, load the burner before bedtime and shut the vents. It will emit gentle heat overnight and will still be alight in the morning ready to add more fuel and warm the house again. When we did a load of work on our house 2 years ago, one of the best moves was to replace the old gas fire with the multi fuel burner.

[Woonderbah]

Captain Kirk fitting a wood burner to the Starship Enterprise... whatever next