England Squad: Should Jack Cork..

MrClaretandBlue · Post by **MrClaretandBlue** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:25 pm

Should Jack Cork feel aggrieved that Harry Winks has been called in as a replacement for Fabian Delph?

Southgate seems to favour two deep lying midfielders and one further forward in the Centre of a 4-3-3. Jack Cork could fit in to one of the deep lying roles seamlessly in my opinion.

By my reckoning Hendreson and Dier are Southgates preferred pairing but after that, Livermoore has started two games recently, Delph has only just started to play for City again and Jonjo Shelvey is being touted for a return to the fold. Add to that now Winks who has only played 25 times for Spurs is ahead of Cork in the pecking order, I think he could feel aggrieved that he has been overlooked.

Anyone agree or should I take my Claret tinted specs off?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:28 pm

He's better than Jake Livermore for starters

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:32 pm

Be Bloody objective! Winks is a young top talent in a top team, cork is a mid table player getting on in years. Your bias is really sad and not in England's best interests.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:33 pm

They are playing at Wembley - an absolute shoo-in for yet another Spurs to be picked. There must be a few tickets left............

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:35 pm

"A top young talent"

And what, pray, are England's "best interests" ?

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:37 pm

My England team would be:

.............................Heaton................................

........Tarkowski........Keane...........Mee............

...Trippier..Cork....Wilshire...T.Davies.....Sterling..

.............................Ings........Kane........................

I'm serious as cancer when I say Rhythm is a dancer.

IWOODLOVETT · Post by **IWOODLOVETT** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:39 pm

I like Jack - he is another to have blossomed in our system, but not considered good enough in his earlier careers at Chelsea, Southampton or Swansea.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:40 pm

He wasn't a few years back when Lallana, Lambert / Southampton were highly praised so I can't see him being now.

No disrespect to Jack but if he is to play for England it shows how little English talent there is right now.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:41 pm

Has cork even played 10 premier league games for Burnley yet?

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:44 pm

Saxoman wrote:Has cork even played 10 premier league games for Burnley yet?

Now don't you go worrying he won't make enough appearances to collect a PL winners medal

MrClaretandBlue · Post by **MrClaretandBlue** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:44 pm

Saxoman wrote:Has cork even played 10 premier league games for Burnley yet?

No but he's played well over 100 Premier League games for Southampton and Swansea.

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:45 pm

Prefer it if none of our players were called up....selfish I know but always the chance of injuries.

MrClaretandBlue · Post by **MrClaretandBlue** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:45 pm

Dyched wrote:
No disrespect to Jack but if he is to play for England it shows how little English talent there is right now.

I think looking at the current England squad that is already apparent.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:46 pm

MrClaretandBlue wrote:No but he's played well over 100 Premier League games for Southampton and Swansea.

And isn't good enough.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:51 pm

Diesel wrote:My England team would be:

.............................Heaton................................

........Tarkowski........Keane...........Mee............

...Trippier..Cork....Wilshire...T.Davies.....Sterling..

.............................Ings........Kane........................

I'm serious as cancer when I say Rhythm is a dancer.

I believed you were serious until I saw Wilshere

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:51 pm

I know you want to try to match rovers..

We had in a single squad..

Tim flowers
Graeme le saux
Tim Sherwood
David batty
Jason Wilcox
Stuart Ripley
Alan shearer
Chris Sutton..

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:53 pm

Saxoman wrote:And isn't good enough.

Neither are Rovers but you still support them

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:53 pm

Saxoman wrote:I know you want to try to match rovers..

We had in a single squad..

Tim flowers
Graeme le saux
Tim Sherwood
David batty
Jason Wilcox
Stuart Ripley
Alan shearer
Chris Sutton..

And we have the nerve to complain about how bad England are now

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:54 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:I believed you were serious until I saw Wilshere

Have you seen him lately?

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:58 pm

Diesel wrote:Have you seen him lately?

Yep saw him play decent in europa cup against some team from Shitatfootballikstan.

Then the week after he was dropped again for the real football !

Also saw a bit of him last year for Bournemouth in between fighting, smoking and drinking he managed to get a few minutes from the bench

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:09 pm

TVC15 wrote:Also saw a bit of him for Bournemouth in between fighting, smoking and drinking he managed to get a few minutes from the bench

George Best?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:12 pm

Saxoman wrote:I know you want to try to match rovers..

We had in a single squad..

Tim flowers
Graeme le saux
Tim Sherwood
David batty
Jason Wilcox
Stuart Ripley
Alan shearer
Chris Sutton..

and with the absolute best will in the world only Le Saux and Shearer should have been in it. Don't be a dick Saxo

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:57 pm

Diesel wrote:George Best?

George Best he definitely ain't !!

He's a good player - but something missing for me.

Horrendous injury record might have impacted the way he plays. He started ok at Bournemouth but was not as good as everyone expected - by Christmas he was on the bench.

Hope he does get back to the player he was - but doubt he will.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:07 pm

Saxoman wrote:Has cork even played 10 premier league games for Burnley yet?

Jack Cork as played 18 Premier League games for Burnley, oh and he's also scored a League Cup goal but it was against a really really really **** team. Now **** Off Saxo!

FulledgeClaret · Post by **FulledgeClaret** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:46 pm

Saxoman wrote:I know you want to try to match rovers..

We had in a single squad..

Tim flowers
Graeme le saux
Tim Sherwood
David batty
Jason Wilcox
Stuart Ripley
Alan shearer
Chris Sutton..

Ahh the 90's the last thing barstewards have to cling onto, newsflash they ain't coming back it's history.
that list shows why England were so poor 94 onwards if the best we had to call up were Flowers, Prick Sherwood, Batty, Wilcox and Ripley. Sutton gets a pass from me because of the partnership he had with Shearer but even he wasn't good enough really. how many made a finals squad 2 3 at the most.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:17 pm

Tim Flowers.

Legend.

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:28 pm

Jesus! I got distracted by a Rovers fan asking us if we have a player good enough to play for England, while we have a Belgian International and sit 6th two divisions above them.....Nope I'm not dreaming it.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:30 pm

Cork is better than Dier for starters. England is not based on anything other than pandering to the top clubs. Including their players in the squad is good for business.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:49 pm

RocketLawnChair wrote:Jack Cork as played 18 Premier League games for Burnley, oh and he's also scored a League Cup goal but it was against a really really really **** team. Now **** Off Saxo!

How has he played 18 prem games for Burnley?

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:59 pm

Saxoman wrote:How has he played 18 prem games for Burnley?

We had him on loan in 09/10.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:24 am

Saxoman wrote:How has he played 18 prem games for Burnley?

because when you were still in nappies, he was a loan for us back in 2010

you won't remember that far back

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:21 am

He hasn't played that many games, it just feels like that because he's that good.

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