A win for fans re Christmas Eve

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:30 pm

Richard Scudamore has confirmed that no Premier League game will now be moved to 4pm on Christmas Eve for tv. No commitment as yet on a 1:30 kick off though.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:29 pm

so at the moment that is a small win - they should have made provision for the fact that there would be no Christmas Eve games in the contract and definitely so in all contracts moving forward - it is as much about the logistics of travel in this country on Christmas eve as it is about the day itself

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:31 pm

Chester Perry wrote:so at the moment that is a small win - they should have made provision for the fact that there would be no Christmas Eve games in the contract and definitely so in all contracts moving forward - it is as much about the logistics of travel in this country on Christmas eve as it is about the day itself

Same must surely apply to Boxing Day, NYE and NYD then.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:42 pm

Still thinking traveling on Christmas Eve is the most difficult of the lot - The country is more geared up for Football on all the other days because everyone plays

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:05 pm

Phew that's a relief, it's the only day of the year I actually work.

COYC73 · Post by **COYC73** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:19 pm

If football was played on Christmas Eve there would be a lot of angry women on Christmas Day......A LOT!!!!

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:43 pm

Diesel wrote:Phew that's a relief, it's the only day of the year I actually work.

Wow, Santa, is that really you??

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:03 pm

Slightly off topic, but have the other TV games for December been released?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:25 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:Slightly off topic, but have the other TV games for December been released?

Not yet, should have been this Thursday but now delayed until next week for games up to 23rd Dec and the following week for Christmas Eve onwards.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:26 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Same must surely apply to Boxing Day, NYE and NYD then.

Why? They are traditional football days. Only one Premier League game ever played on Christmas Eve and it is 62 years since we had a game on that date.

Apart from significant travel problems, Christmas Eve is very much a family day.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:27 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Why? Traditional football days. Only one Premier League game ever played on Christmas Eve and it is 62 years since we had a game on that date.

I was talking about the logistics of travel.

There are more train and bus services running on Christmas Eve as there are on Boxing Day, NYE and NYD.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:28 pm

And as for Christmas Eve being a family day - it's a full working day for the majority of the population.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:35 pm

I would say boxing day and new years day are more of a family day for people. Christmas eve, night time itself maybe not. But Christmas eve is typically a working day. Boxing day and NYD and for many NYE arent.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:36 pm

Makes sense does this. I start my Christmas shopping on that date.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:44 pm

I'm good with any day, we finish work the day before Xmas eve if it falls on a week day and back to work in the new year.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:09 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Why? They are traditional football days. Only one Premier League game ever played on Christmas Eve and it is 62 years since we had a game on that date.

Apart from significant travel problems, Christmas Eve is very much a family day.

But there is much, much more public transport running on Christmas Eve than Boxing Day.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:12 pm

What about us fans who want to watch live Prem football on Christmas Eve - it isnt a win for us.....

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:15 pm

aggi wrote:But there is much, much more public transport running on Christmas Eve than Boxing Day.

I'm sure the unions can change that.

BigF · Post by **BigF** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:18 pm

Has our home game been changed or are we still playing on Saturday 23rd Dec?
I realise that many have been commenting on games in general over the holiday period but wodered if I'd missed a change of date somewhere.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:19 pm

aggi wrote:But there is much, much more public transport running on Christmas Eve than Boxing Day.

Boxing Day is a traditional football day, We've played on that day in all the years I can remember. There is a full fixture list this season.

Christmas Day is a day not really used by football. As I have said, there has only ever been on Premier League game on Christmas Eve in 25 years. It's a date Burnley haven't played on since 1955.

If you have a problem with Boxing Day fixtures, then maybe take it up with like minded people but this argument is about the television companies trying to move games onto a day when football, as a rule, isn't played. Thankfully, even the Premier League have agreed regarding the 4 p.m. kick off, although I suspect they will still try to include on at 1:30 p.m.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:20 pm

BigF wrote:Has our home game been changed or are we still playing on Saturday 23rd Dec?
I realise that many have been commenting on games in general over the holiday period but wodered if I'd missed a change of date somewhere.

I've posted further up the thread that there is a delay in announcing the games, but I'm told, as yet, our game has not been under consideration.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:28 pm

From about 1900 to the late 1950's Christmas Day was a regular matchday.
Must have been a nightmare for travelling fans.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:39 pm

Can only imagine what CT would be making of a boxing day match if it weren't a thing already.

Jimmymaccer · Post by **Jimmymaccer** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:24 pm

What do you reckon chances of our games being moved?..........I’ve to book ferries, planes, car and hotels!

And find a good reason to justify it to my other half!

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:28 pm

Firstly I'm all for tradition and think they should be playing Christmas Day afternoon. What better way to avoid visits to people you can avoid the rest of the year.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:34 pm

I'd like a game on Xmas day personally, better than being bored making forced conversation with family you can't be arsed being with(and can't be arsed being with you)

What? Just being honest.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:16 pm

I couldn't be doing with football on Xmas day.
Odeon cinemas have started opening on Xmas day over here at last and that's much more appealing.

TurfyMoore · Post by **TurfyMoore** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:27 pm

I was at the Halifax Town v Walsall FA Cup replay at The Shay on Christmas Eve 1979

LS7 · Post by **LS7** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:53 pm

Would be great atmos in pub for xmas eve afternoon game. Fair doos if it's a 1.30 kick off. Just get out on the lash a bit earlier.

Just put on a special train for the travelling fans. Ultimately whether or not to go is a choice.

Here's to an xmas eve game ! (Not a full fixture list just 1 big game).

Pimlico_Claret · Post by **Pimlico_Claret** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:54 pm

Saxoman wrote:I'd like a game on Xmas day personally, better than being bored making forced conversation with family you can't be arsed being with(and can't be arsed being with you)

What? Just being honest.

You strike me as being a professional prick. Shame you can't concentrate on your own clubs website and save us the bother of having to tolerate you.

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:05 pm

Saxoman wrote:I'd like a game on Xmas day personally, better than being bored making forced conversation with family you can't be arsed being with(and can't be arsed being with you)

I certainly see why they can't be arsed being with you

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:13 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Boxing Day is a traditional football day, We've played on that day in all the years I can remember. There is a full fixture list this season.

Christmas Day is a day not really used by football. As I have said, there has only ever been on Premier League game on Christmas Eve in 25 years. It's a date Burnley haven't played on since 1955.

If you have a problem with Boxing Day fixtures, then maybe take it up with like minded people but this argument is about the television companies trying to move games onto a day when football, as a rule, isn't played. Thankfully, even the Premier League have agreed regarding the 4 p.m. kick off, although I suspect they will still try to include on at 1:30 p.m.

I've no problem with them and didn't suggest that, my comment was just in response to those saying that it wasn't feasible due to travel problems. Public transport isn't too bad on Christmas Eve with most services running at least a Sunday service. On boxing day there's often no transport so it's not a good reason to protest against it.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:46 am

The three games being considered for Christmas Eve are

Aresnal v Liverpool
Leicester v Man Utd
Everton v Chelsea

horrible travel implications for all away supporters

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:33 am

Chester Perry wrote:The three games being considered for Christmas Eve are

Aresnal v Liverpool
Leicester v Man Utd
Everton v Chelsea

horrible travel implications for all away supporters

Looks as though it is a maximum of one now with the confirmation that there won't be a 4 pm game, and that one was expected to be Arsenal v Liverpool. There have been suggestions of West Ham v Newcastle at 1:30, imagine that around the shopping centre there.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:58 am

Be no different to any other day. Its one of europe biggest shopping centres. Its geared up for it. The stadiums hoste bigger stuff than west hm newcastle.

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:31 am

There was a famous football match on Christmas Eve in 1914. Fortunately they didn't have far to travel to no mans land.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:34 am

Still the possibility of a 3pm kick off Christmas Eve.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:08 am

As I was saying in a similar thread last week, please could the same protestations about football on Christmas Eve be made to my employer, and every employer I've ever had, who require me to go to work on this blessed family day.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:24 am

Walton wrote:As I was saying in a similar thread last week, please could the same protestations about football on Christmas Eve be made to my employer, and every employer I've ever had, who require me to go to work on this blessed family day.

I think you need to take that up yourself with your employer

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:25 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Still the possibility of a 3pm kick off Christmas Eve.

I'm sure I was told the TV slots for that day were 1:30 and 4 so it would be interesting if they tried to introduce a 3 o'clock slot.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:41 am

ClaretTony wrote:I'm sure I was told the TV slots for that day were 1:30 and 4 so it would be interesting if they tried to introduce a 3 o'clock slot.

Just from a report in one of the nationals today.

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Thickneck · Post by **Thickneck** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:49 am

Burnley's last ever game on Christmas Day was a 2-1 home win against Manchester City in 1957. There were BCN corporation buses from Padiham running that day!!

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:50 am

ClaretTony wrote:I think you need to take that up yourself with your employer

It's a normal day for the working population. There's nothing special about it, and as many people have said on this thread already, it's stupid that football is instead played on the bank holidays instead of a normal working day, especially with Xmas eve this year falling on a Sunday.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:55 am

Walton wrote:It's a normal day for the working population. There's nothing special about it, and as many people have said on this thread already, it's stupid that football is instead played on the bank holidays instead of a normal working day, especially with Xmas eve this year falling on a Sunday.

That's your view, clearly not endorsed by some of the leading supporter groups across the country and certainly not endorsed by the clubs who have come out and supported those groups.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:57 am

What was the original reasons for not playing Christmas Eve? Does anyone know?

vinrogue · Post by **vinrogue** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:58 am

Surely the implications for us is are that if Man Utd at Leicester is selected to play Christmas Eve at 1.30, would our game against Utd on Boxing day be moved to the 27th and on TV too?

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:01 pm

Here is Northern Rail's Christmas timetable for Christmas 2016

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http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service_d ... 08559.aspx

Now how is staging games on Boxing Day, when there is no train service running, more convenient for travelling fans than staging games on Christmas Eve, when there is a full service running, and then a skeleton service?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:02 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:What was the original reasons for not playing Christmas Eve? Does anyone know?

I have to admit to being surprise when I saw it was 62 years since we last played on Christmas Eve, one of only two occasions when we have played on this date in post-war football. Back in those days, the two big football days were Christmas Day & Boxing Day although I really couldn't imagine playing on Christmas Day now.

Boxing Day has always been the traditional Christmas game and I don't think anyone would want to see that disappear. Christmas Eve has always been the family day, the final preparations for Christmas Day etc. and has just not been associated with football. Only one Premier League game on the day in 25 years tells that story.

I know we are at home on 23rd December, but I can't imagine many Burnley fans would be happy if it were to be moved to the following day. At last week's Supporters Groups meeting, the opposition to Christmas Eve football was unanimous.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:04 pm

ClaretTony wrote: Christmas Eve has always been the family day, the final preparations for Christmas Day etc.

Christmas Eve is a working day, not a family day. There are plenty of posters saying this within this thread.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:12 pm

I think it’s sonething that changed over time.

I might be wrong but growing up I thought shops, supermarkets etc were shut on Christmas Eve, certainly not the case now.
It’s much like any other day.