Pulis sacked

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:21 pm

starting_11 wrote:Just in time for the Wales job eh?

You reckon he might want a change of scenery?

Or the Swansea job, if he can wait a bit longer...

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:24 pm

Dyche only joined Burnley because of the close links between West Brom and BFC.

He'd often miss Chesterfield and Watford games to go and stand behind Brian Jensen and Paul Crichton in goals, and he signed Chris Wood because he remembered how good he was from attending every WBA reserve game while Wood was there.

His daughters are also called Jaime O'Connor Dyche and Delrina Facey Dyche, because he was so keen to celebrate the links between the clubs.

His hamster is called Tony Morley too.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:24 pm

Foulthrow wrote:I'm worried about relegation until we get 40 points.

We won't need anywhere near 40 points.
Just like last season. 35 was enough.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:45 pm

This is Dyche's bedroom

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:49 pm

Foulthrow wrote:I'm worried about relegation until we get 40 points.

I'm hoping we can do that by Christmas...

ClaretKent · Post by **ClaretKent** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:53 pm

more musical dugouts...

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:56 pm

Is it a job for "he's got a hair island, a hair island" ?

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:59 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:You're telling me.

I told you it was complicated

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:01 pm

The weird thing is that there is bound to be a club who will employ him in a panic move to avoid relegation, which is what he wasn't doing at WBA. Strange world is the EPL.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:03 pm

Half the reason some of these managers haven't got a relegation on their CV is because they are ****** off before the inevitable.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:24 pm

TVC15 wrote:My information about west brom is 100% bona fide. Jeremy Peace, Baggies chairman, is actually my dad

That must be a good dad/son relationship then if he can't be bothered to tell you that he's not there any longer

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:34 pm

ClaretTony wrote:That must be a good dad/son relationship then if he can't be bothered to tell you that he's not there any longer

As I said its very complicated !!

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:35 pm

Do not feel sorry for these sacked managers....most will get masses of compensation then walk straight into another job on a better salary.
It must be the only job where you are sacked for incompetence then can get another better job within days.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:15 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:We won't need anywhere near 40 points.
Just like last season. 35 was enough.

What makes you so sure?
Unless Huddersfield really fall away, I can't see 3 teams who are obvious relegation candidates.
To me it feels much more like the Championship this season, in that apart from the top 6, pretty much anyone can beat anyone on any day. My feeling is that it will be a real tense end to the season for 5 or 6 clubs, with little or nothing settled till the last day.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:19 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:We won't need anywhere near 40 points.
Just like last season. 35 was enough.

I was applying my formula to it all yesterday. Last season I was always confident we were OK once at 35 and so it proved. I think it will be similar this year but might need 36. I doubt it will be much more than that if at all.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:39 pm

The Enclosure wrote:Do not feel sorry for these sacked managers....most will get masses of compensation then walk straight into another job on a better salary.
It must be the only job where you are sacked for incompetence then can get another better job within days.

It sounded to me like Mr Pulis needed the sack at this time and planned accordingly, with his media last week.

Out of ideas and dressing room and fans lost. Also, the time of the season when vacancies are rife.

Pay offs always welcome at Christmas!

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:38 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Is that all true? How come Dyche is so far down in the betting odds then?

It is and Dyche has West Bromwich Albion tattooed on his penis, not the abbreviated version either

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:41 pm

BleedingClaret wrote:It is and Dyche has West Bromwich Albion tattooed on his penis, not the abbreviated version either

Its abbreviated when it's cold.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:43 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:What makes you so sure?....
My feeling is that it will be a real tense end to the season for 5 or 6 clubs....

For a start, if Palace get forty, it'll probably be one of the biggest turnarounds in PL history.
Not gonna happen. So there's one.

Ive no doubt that it'll probably be "a real tense end to the season for 5 or 6 clubs", but with the way we're going,
and the possibility of strengthening in January, does anyone really believe we'll be one of em?

In chance a not hell's cat.

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:45 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Its abbreviated when it's cold.

Illegible, just looks like a smudge

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:46 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:What makes you so sure?
Unless Huddersfield really fall away, I can't see 3 teams who are obvious relegation candidates.

Really?

I saw one on Saturday.

Palace, with their 5 points from 12 games look pretty obvious to me.

Huddersfield have City and Arsenal up next, then Everton away. They have Chelsea not long after that. I think they’ll be right in it by Christmas.

FulledgeClaret · Post by **FulledgeClaret** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:51 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I was applying my formula to it all yesterday. Last season I was always confident we were OK once at 35 and so it proved. I think it will be similar this year but might need 36. I doubt it will be much more than that if at all.

Certainly looking like another 35/36 point for safety season
Last season 12 games in, remarkably similar to this season points wise.

12 Burnley 12 4 2 6 11 19 -8 14
13 Stoke 12 3 4 5 13 19 -6 13
14 Leicester 12 3 3 6 14 20 -6 12
15 Middlesb 12 2 5 5 10 13 -3 11
16 Crystal P 12 3 2 7 17 21 -4 11
17 West Ham 12 3 2 7 13 23 -10 11
18 Hull 12 3 1 8 10 27 -17 10
19 Sunderld 12 2 2 8 12 21 -9 8
20 Swansea 12 1 3 8 11 22 -11 6

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:58 pm

Foulthrow wrote:I'm worried about relegation until we get 40 points. 18 points are hard to get in this division. We've not been battering teams. We have won games by fine margins - as soon as that changes life is going to get a lot tougher.

Why? Why are you worried? I think if Dyche left tomorrow we'd be okay because of what he has instilled into the players themselves and if he stays, as I expect he will for this season at least, then we will be fine. I don't care about fine margins, nobody batters everyone every week (apart from City currently) and our style of play dictates that we won't bury anyone really. We are currently watching a comfortable top ten club, we should be confident like the players are. I know Dyche goes on about one game at a time and taking things as they come but it is human nature to speculate and I believe we are safe NOW and only better will come.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:00 pm

West Ham and Swansea have had an awful couple of years now. Both had loads of managers, spent lots of money and both have a far worse team now than they did 2 years ago.

They are showing the same kind of characteristics as Sunderland and Aston Villa did. Eventually after 3 or 4 seasons flirting with relegation they can't perform those miracle escapes anymore.

And you can add Palace to that list also. At least one of these teams has to go down surely this year. I'd love it if all 3 of them went !

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:03 pm

TVC15 wrote:And you can add Palace to that list also. At least one of these teams has to go down surely this year. I'd love it if all 3 of them went !

Shame we cant have 4 going down - I'd love to see Everton drop with those 3 clubs after what their owners are doing to a massive club, who quite frankly do deserve better.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:06 pm

Pulis being canned can only be seen as a Hreat Day for English Football. He’s a purveyor if some of the worst Anti-Football you’ll see in a thousand mile hike.

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:17 pm

The more "big teams" there are doing well at the top eating points up, the less points there are divided amongst the other teams.
With Man City, Man United and Chelsea all doing really well + Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool (and a certain other club) all going strongly, it's looking like 35-37 will be enough to avoid a bottom 3 spot.
I think 40 is a fair enough target but totals needed to beat 3rd bottom for the last few years (going backwards) have been: 35, 38 (Chelsea & Lpool both a bit duff that year), 36, 35,37, 37.
Possibly one or two clubs currently 17th-20th will resurge but likewise one or two 10th-16th will regress.

Bookies have Swans, Palace, Hudd as the 3 favourites for relegation with WHU and then WBA just above that. I'm not sure if WBA have moved during the day on the Pulis news.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:35 pm

jlup1980 wrote:If ever there was a sideways move for Sean this is it!!

Sideways step? Bolloxs.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:47 pm

The Enclosure wrote:Do not feel sorry for these sacked managers....most will get masses of compensation then walk straight into another job on a better salary.
It must be the only job where you are sacked for incompetence then can get another better job within days.

Journalism and Politics spring to mind as 2.

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:52 pm

Socrates wrote:Really?

I saw one on Saturday.

Palace, with their 5 points from 12 games look pretty obvious to me.

Huddersfield have City and Arsenal up next, then Everton away. They have Chelsea not long after that. I think they’ll be right in it by Christmas.

Me too I have always maintained that by time the plates of the premier league table have shifted and teams are jousting for their rightful positions.
Huddersfield's promotion bubble is starting burst and teams start to find them out they will start suffering some heavy defeats and likely to start getting smashed every week.
Especially if your a newly promoted and long time history out of the big league, same as we was in 2009 it's a right owd slog to stabilize again.
With Newcastle it will be a test but think they will survive and i also think Brighton will be fair clear and comfortable by the end of it all
someone will drop like a stone teams will pick up at the bottom but a guess at it now.
Bournemouth 18th
Palace 19th
Huddersfield 20th
Is my guess could be well wrong though in this exciting most prestigious league in the world how anyone could contemplate being out of is beyond me.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:03 pm

I'm just surprised SD hasn't been linked with Angela Merkel's job yet.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:21 pm

elwaclaret wrote:I'm just surprised SD hasn't been linked with Angela Merkel's job yet.

There's still time yet

Just had a fiver on him for West Brom job at 50/1 on PP, it will put the cat among the pigeons, he'll be favourite on Oddschecker now

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:10 pm

If Sean does leave Pullis would be very near the top of my preferred replacements. I think he gets a lot of undeserved criticism. Had most of his creative players out injured. Not sure how many we would create without Defour JBG and Brady. Organises well and speaks a lot of sense when interviewed.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:17 pm

Someone will drop like a stone teams will pick up at the bottom but a guess at it now.............

So which one of the top 7 could that be?

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:26 pm

andyh...do you know any Stoke or WBA fans ? If so then have a word with them and see how they feel about TP...it's highly unlikely to reinforce your view.

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:29 pm

West Brom fans at my walking football (Birmingham) don't want SD - they think they want 'nicer football'!

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:30 pm

elwaclaret wrote:I'm just surprised SD hasn't been linked with Angela Merkel's job yet.

Herr Dyche is on the secret shortlist.

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:55 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:andyh...do you know any Stoke or WBA fans ? If so then have a word with them and see how they feel about TP...it's highly unlikely to reinforce your view.

And that is where you are wrong. I worked in Stoke for 4 years, whilst largely Pulis was in charge and separately one of my best mates is a Stoke fan.

Whilst you did get some of the glory hunters wanting someone "to go to the next level", many who had followed Stoke for years realised what Pulis achieved. Pulis plays effective defensive football, not too dissimilar to the way we are set up.

Hence if Sean was to leave why I think he would be a good fit. I am not saying he is anywhere near as good as Sean (who is)... and therefore I hope Sean is around for a while... but it would be miles better than most of journeyman British managers that would be in the frame.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:06 pm

Hadn’t read much into it,but wasn’t SD seen having a Chinese after the Swansea win?

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:19 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:Hadn’t read much into it,but wasn’t SD seen having a Chinese after the Swansea win?

I wouldn’t worry too much about that. It was just a night out with his showbiz pals Frank Skinner and Adrian Chiles, so nothing to be read into it.

mickleoverclaret · Post by **mickleoverclaret** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:25 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Shame we cant have 4 going down - I'd love to see Everton drop with those 3 clubs after what their owners are doing to a massive club, who quite frankly do deserve better.

Everton deserve better than what they're currently getting, so you'd like to see them go down?

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:33 pm

Why do Everton "deserve" better?

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:40 pm

They're massive that's why.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:42 pm

And?....

Hendrickxz · Post by **Hendrickxz** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:37 am

Nah, it's Ken Hom before he lost his hair!

Hendrickxz · Post by **Hendrickxz** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:37 am

Nah, it's Ken Hom before he lost his hair!