Winger replacements

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:43 pm

Out of interest, those wanting Taylor to play as a left winger: have you ever seen him play there before? What is your evidence to suggest he'd do a better job of playing there than a player who has played virtually all his football in that position (and who has played in that position when he was preferred in the starting eleven to JBG earlier in the season)?

To me, its an odd notion. In pre-season, Dyche made a point of using Taylor in the centre back role and saying he could play there. I don't think he made a similar point of playing him on the left wing (wing back, incidentally, is a very different role to left midfield in a 5, even in our set up).

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:46 pm

claretspice wrote:Out of interest, those wanting Taylor to play as a left winger: have you ever seen him play there before? What is your evidence to suggest he'd do a better job of playing there than a player who has played virtually all his football in that position (and who has played in that position when he was preferred in the starting eleven to JBG earlier in the season)?

To me, its an odd notion. In pre-season, Dyche made a point of using Taylor in the centre back role and saying he could play there. I don't think he made a similar point of playing him on the left wing (wing back, incidentally, is a very different role to left midfield in a 5, even in our set up).

Seems to be the norm that fans think just because someone has a left foot they can play left wing.

Reality is hes a defender. And from what ive seen in the mould of ward.

Slurpy · Post by **Slurpy** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:51 pm

claretspice wrote:Out of interest, those wanting Taylor to play as a left winger: have you ever seen him play there before? What is your evidence to suggest he'd do a better job of playing there than a player who has played virtually all his football in that position (and who has played in that position when he was preferred in the starting eleven to JBG earlier in the season)?

To me, its an odd notion. In pre-season, Dyche made a point of using Taylor in the centre back role and saying he could play there. I don't think he made a similar point of playing him on the left wing (wing back, incidentally, is a very different role to left midfield in a 5, even in our set up).

Charlie Taylor: "I like being on the left wing, I don't mind it. I like getting forward as a full-back anyway".
Played left mid in a 2-1 win against Bolton in 2015

Mala591 · Post by **Mala591** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:58 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I can't comment as I still don't know if he was stating that was what was happening in training, or whether it's just guesswork.

If it's guesswork, no comment needed. Otherwise, I think it's an interesting move and wouldn't mind seeing it next game.

Sometimes I like to try and imagine what might be the options if SD was a more adventurous/risk taking manager. He has stated that Taylor and Wells are playing well in training and 'knocking on the first team door'. I have no idea just how flexible they would be playing out of their normal/best position but if they are fast and technically strong they should be able to adapt.

I am sure that SD will stick with Hendrick and start Arfield left midfield and I hope they both play well but it might just be a little bit predictable and uninspiring.

Maybe I should amend my user name from Mala to Klopp

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:59 pm

Our 'wingers' aren't really wingers though, are they?

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:24 pm

Diesel wrote:Our 'wingers' aren't really wingers though, are they?

Previously no, but recently JBG and Brady have been wingers - hence their surge in form and attacking intent.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:25 pm

Do you think Taylor came here just to wait 3 years for ward to retire?. We paid good money for Taylor and he needs to be getting into the team. He is the future. He can very easily adapt to wide left as he has all of the necessary attributes especially his crossing, which wood will be used to. Also with 5 of the top 6 still to come to us, Taylor's defensive qualities will come in very handy.

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:30 pm

I think Boyds replacement in Dyche's eyes is Walters. We will have to ship out some players if we want to sign more. Already hard to choose the bench.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:56 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote:Previously no, but recently JBG and Brady have been wingers - hence their surge in form and attacking intent.

I'm with you but when I hear 'winger' I think: Tony Morley, Leighton James, Chris Waddle, John Robertson ect.

Edit: Jesper Olsen is another.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:58 pm

Slurpy wrote:C3harlie Taylor: "I like being on the left wing, I don't mind it. I like getting forward as a full-back anyway".
Played left mid in a 2-1 win against Bolton in 2015

What is it about a game against a Bolton side which was on course for relegation suggests he's sufficiently comfortable in the role to play there in the Premier League, when he hasn't had chance to adapt to the level in his preferred position, or even his second position (according to Dyche, centre half, which caused enough consternation in itself on here in the summer)?

If Dyche tries it behind closed doors and likes what he sees them fine, but until he does and likes what he sees, it's a bit of a wierd messageboard idea to me.

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:02 pm

claretspice wrote:What is it about a game against a Bolton side which was on course for relegation suggests he's sufficiently comfortable in the role to play there in the Premier League, when he hasn't had chance to adapt to the level in his preferred position, or even his second position (according to Dyche, centre half, which caused enough consternation in itself on here in the summer)?

If Dyche tries it behind closed doors and likes what he sees them fine, but until he does and likes what he sees, it's a bit of a wierd messageboard idea to me.

Maybe it is but he is quick, good at crossing and good defensively which means he has the attributes to be better than (no disrespect to him) arfield. IMO Taylor is closer to a like for like replacement for Brady than Arfield. And in our midfield 5 we rely on the wingers to be wide outlets, which arfield is not always.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:11 pm

claretspice wrote:Out of interest, those wanting Taylor to play as a left winger: have you ever seen him play there before? What is your evidence to suggest he'd do a better job of playing there than a player who has played virtually all his football in that position (and who has played in that position when he was preferred in the starting eleven to JBG earlier in the season)?

To me, its an odd notion. In pre-season, Dyche made a point of using Taylor in the centre back role and saying he could play there. I don't think he made a similar point of playing him on the left wing (wing back, incidentally, is a very different role to left midfield in a 5, even in our set up).

more than capable, set up plenty of goals for Dirty Leeds with is crosses, is pretty quick, can beat a man.

I'd play him there and see what he can do, we know what Scotty offers. Shall we re-sign David Jones and Boyd because we know what they offer too ?!

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:13 pm

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Iloveyoubrady wrote:Maybe it is but he is quick, good at crossing and good defensively which means he has the attributes to be better than (no disrespect to him) arfield. IMO Taylor is closer to a like for like replacement for Brady than Arfield. And in our midfield 5 we rely on the wingers to be wide outlets, which arfield is not always.

No we don't, we rely on our full backs for width, and our wide midfielders to create space for them with clever runs and smart passes. And this is exactly the point: thats very different to bombing up and down the line in a straight line.

Arfield has proved he has those skills and understanding of the game. Taylor hasn't. Your argument is like saying that Vokes should get the nod at centre half of we get an injury on the basis he's a big lad and good in the air, regardless of the fact he's never played there in his life.

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:36 pm

If Taylor makes the bench who misses out?

Assuming Lowton is back Dyche prefers Bardsley as he covers right and left. Then we have both Walters and Marney coming back..

I don't think Taylor is going to get the nod ahead of Walters and the chances of an injury to Scott or Johann before Walters is match fit is small.

I don't think Taylor should get the nod ahead of Ulvestad.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:36 pm

claretspice wrote:
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Arfield has proved he has those skills and understanding of the game. Taylor hasn't. Your argument is like saying that Vokes should get the nod at centre half of we get an injury on the basis he's a big lad and good in the air, regardless of the fact he's never played there in his life.

Pushing it a bit there to make your point, Spice,
but I think Arfield will get the wide slot, if only because SD is unlikely to risk any experimenting (rightly so, in my opinion).

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:43 pm

A bit? Thought it was desperate seeing as Taylor has played wide left before and the difference between a wing back and wide left these days is not much. Walters won't be fit before Christmas in any event.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:31 pm

summitclaret wrote:A bit? Thought it was desperate seeing as Taylor has played wide left before and the difference between a wing back and wide left these days is not much. Walters won't be fit before Christmas in any event.

The difference between a wide midfielder and a wing back is far bigger than you suggest. I explained why earlier.

The Vokes argument may well have been stretching matters for effect, but let me turn it round. Would anyone have regarded it as sensible if Dyche had decided not to bother bringing in any cover at right back and announced Arfield or JBG could fill in there, even though theyve never played there and have never had to think like defenders, only the basis they're willing to put a tackle in and have shown they can track a man or compete in the air whilst playing on the wing for us?

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:58 pm

Our recent rich vein of form has been largely due to the contribution, creativity and crosses put in by our wide boys Brady & JBG. How many goals have they created. I have been following BFC since 1961. People at work tell me I have the memory of an elephant. Much as I like Scotty as a great club servant when did he last skin a fullback and put in a telling cross

Charlie Taylor will revel in this role-what I suggested in a previous post is start Scotty but if its not going well bring CT on for the last 25 minutes. I understand from Leeds fans that he has pace and can deliver a wicked cross -in fact he made a lot of goals for Chris Wood. Don't forget he has something to prove

No one ever doubts the abilities of Stephen Ward or Matt Lowton-don't forget they were not in the team for long periods , same applies to James Tarkowski.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:07 pm

Let's be clear, no-one is doubting the potential and quality of Charlie Taylor. Just his ability to step into an unfamiliar position for which he's not been groomed at a level he's never played at before. He's became a specialist at left back rather than in midfield for a reason.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:17 pm

Which is why I suggested maybe 20 minutes to see if he is comfortable there. Scotty gives you 100% each game but having seen him v Leicester the PL is not forgiving, and he struggled to make his mark or engage fully with the team but particularly in tight situations

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:20 pm

Brady, whilst being nominally played at wide left, seemed to have a free role in attack basically running at defenders wherever, something that would almost certainly suit Arfield more than Taylor.
Arfield can come up with a goal now and then.
I'm expecting vs Watford:
Pope,
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Ward
Gudmonsson Defour Cork Hendrick
Arfield
Wood

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:52 pm

warksclaret wrote:Which is why I suggested maybe 20 minutes to see if he is cormfortable there. Scotty gives you 100% each game but having seen him v Leicester the PL is not forgiving, and he struggled to make his mark or engage fully with the team but particularly in tight situations

But as I pointed out yesterday, it's a bit unfair to judge Arfield on a day he was asked to step in having played no football in over a month and as a sub (something he's never been as good at as others - some are better than others at picking up the pace off the bench). Why not judge him instead on being MOTM at Spurs and a goalscorer at Liverpool?

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:53 pm

As already mentioned it's a mistake to assume a full back can shine as easily going forward as a winger.

You get marked a lot tighter and it's harder to make space.

Taylor is a full back just the same as Trippier, just the same as Mears a before him.

Not everyone is a Gareth Bale.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:57 pm

claretspice wrote:But as I pointed out yesterday, it's a bit unfair to judge Arfield on a day he was asked to step in having played no football in over a month and as a sub (something he's never been as good at as others - some are better than others at picking up the pace off the bench). Why not judge him instead on being MOTM at Spurs and a goalscorer at Liverpool?

And he played the full match away at Everton where we didn't have any problems winning.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:03 pm

Arfield is a good player but it is a bit small minded to continually want existing squad players to fill in, who by definition must be worse (in Sean’s eyes) than whoever they are filling in for. There is a mindset of optimistically making the most of every setback which isn’t delusional.

We have to look to improve either the squad or the first XI if Brady is out for 3 months or longer. Otherwise we will end up no better than last season. In the meantime, Arfield will do fine.

Mala591 · Post by **Mala591** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:54 pm

So, Taylor only gets a game if Ward is injured or has a dramatic loss in form. Wells doesn't seem to be considered under any circumstances.

Might as well send them both out on loan in January.

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:28 am

I really hope that Scotty bags some useful goals and assists and Walters too. We know they are capable and it will put people in their place who think they aren't good enough.

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:08 am

In the position we are in now, and if we reach 40 points before the end of the season, players like Taylor should be getting games as he's young and needs the premier league experience. Wells the same.
I would like to see a CAM type player in January. Probably just a young one from the championship like Alex Pritchard or jack grealish (don't know about his attitude problems?). I think one of these, although not starting, would be great for us to give another attacking dimension behind the stricker.

Sleeping Cat · Post by **Sleeping Cat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:48 am

With little knowledge of the players true positional capabilities (visible in training), and only able to go on what I've seen of them live, players I would pick to replace Brady on the left (in order of preference)

Arfield
Walters
Hendrick
Barnes

I would like to see Taylor being given the chance on the left, but I have no idea if he is suited for it. If he was capable of fulfilling the role I'd place him behind Arfield.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:05 am

Arfield and Hendrick on the same pitch doesn't work.

One gets in the other's way, and that's largely because Arfield always come in off the wing into the hole, where Hendrick is.

If we are to start Arfield at left wing, I'd be tempted to play Taylor at left back as he's more attacking than Ward, and he can overlap into the space Arfield vacates when he tucks inside.

Sleeping Cat · Post by **Sleeping Cat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:19 am

"Arfield and Hendrick on the same pitch doesn't work."

It worked at Everton.

ashtonlongsider · Post by **ashtonlongsider** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:26 am

Didn't Gareth Bale start out as a left back? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it was Harry Rednapp who had the foresight in moving him to the wing. Charlie Taylor is a modern day Wing Back/Half and I have no doubt he can play in Brady's position. Bottom line is you don't know until you try but to me its definitely worth a punt.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:29 am

Mala591 wrote:So, Taylor only gets a game if Ward is injured or has a dramatic loss in form. Wells doesn't seem to be considered under any circumstances.

Might as well send them both out on loan in January.

Why?

Tarkowski was only going to get in the team once Keane left. Why should Taylor be any different?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:55 pm

Slurpy wrote:Charlie Taylor: "I like being on the left wing, I don't mind it. I like getting forward as a full-back anyway".
Played left mid in a 2-1 win against Bolton in 2015

He played left mid for Leeds when he was younger and then went out on loan. He then came back and played wide left on occasions again, and also played a lot as left wing-back, spending the majority of his time in the opposition's half.

He played full back against Leeds in the cup the other week, but (especially in the first half), spent most of his time going down the left wing putting in some delightful crosses.

The same person who is complaining about people rating Taylor down the left, is the same poster who suggested Hennings wide left and Darikwa right midfield. I take what he posts with a serious pinch of salt as I doubt he's seen very much (if anything) of Taylor, yet.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:20 pm

This Gareth Bale analogy is nonsense. Firstly, he was about 18 when he was permanently moved forwards (and actually, I think it was more a case of reversing an attempt to convert him into a full back that hadn't worked). Secondly, he's an exceptionally talented player who was always recognised as such (first teamer at Southampton at 16, multi-million pound transfer at 17). So the idea that that's a precedent that means it is natural assumption that an attacking left back can be a attacking left winger is bizarre.

Taylor may have played the odd game at left midfield as a kid at Leeds. No doubt he was settled at full back because he was more effective there. Much like the way Darikwa was moved backwards (the idea he could be an answer for us on the wing was always equally bizarre).

It may be that Taylor could do a job at left midfield. But there's absolutely no evidence available to us that suggests he can beyond the fact he's good at the attacking bit of a different role on the same side of the pitch. If Dyche trials it in training or training games and likes what he sees, then fine. But until then, I can't see the slightest reason why anyone on here should assume he might be capable of replacing Brady just because he delivers a good cross on the overlap.

In the meantime, as others have pointed out, apart from being excellent at Spurs and Liverpool, Arfield was part of a pretty good team performance at Everton, playing from the left hand side in a team also containing Hendrick. He won't offer us what Brady offers, but he's a solid option and I'd be astounded if he doesn't start against Watford on Saturday. Hopefully he'll get a fair chance from those on this thread who have seemingly written him off.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:24 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:Arfield is a good player but it is a bit small minded to continually want existing squad players to fill in, who by definition must be worse (in Sean’s eyes) than whoever they are filling in for. There is a mindset of optimistically making the most of every setback which isn’t delusional.

We have to look to improve either the squad or the first XI if Brady is out for 3 months or longer. Otherwise we will end up no better than last season. In the meantime, Arfield will do fine.

The point about improving the squad for the future is absolutely valid. I would hope we'd be looking for at least one wide midfield/attacking option in January; perhaps even two depending on what Dyche thinks of Wells and the other possible options in the squad (including Taylor and Walters). Either way, it would be one marquee signing, much like Brady was last season.

That said, I do think there's a careful balance to be struck here. We want to move on and progress, but history also suggests that teams often regret it if they ditch the players who got them established in the first place, the players who have been on the journey and established the culture. We have Arfield, Heaton, Mee, Vokes and Marney who have been here since the beginning of the journey. Whilst only Mee and a fit Heaton may be first choices now, the other 3 are all key to maintaining the identity of the team and particularly as the chances of our manager moving on increase, I think it is vital we keep at least Vokes and Arfield (as the younger of the 3) at the heart of the squad.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:29 pm

ashtonlongsider wrote:Didn't Gareth Bale start out as a left back? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it was Harry Rednapp who had the foresight in moving him to the wing. Charlie Taylor is a modern day Wing Back/Half and I have no doubt he can play in Brady's position. Bottom line is you don't know until you try but to me its definitely worth a punt.

I'd go along with that. Let's see what happens.

ashtonlongsider · Post by **ashtonlongsider** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:02 pm

claretspice wrote:This Gareth Bale analogy is nonsense. Firstly, he was about 18 when he was permanently moved forwards (and actually, I think it was more a case of reversing an attempt to convert him into a full back that hadn't worked).

Think you'll find that Bale was 20 when he was moved into a left midfield role at Spurs. It came about as he was deemed vulnerable at left back and Tottenham had gone 24 winless games with him in the defensive role. I think i'm right it saying that at one stage Bale was heavily linked with a loan deal to us.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:24 pm

claretspice wrote:The point about improving the squad for the future is absolutely valid. I would hope we'd be looking for at least one wide midfield/attacking option in January; perhaps even two depending on what Dyche thinks of Wells and the other possible options in the squad (including Taylor and Walters). Either way, it would be one marquee signing, much like Brady was last season.

That said, I do think there's a careful balance to be struck here. We want to move on and progress, but history also suggests that teams often regret it if they ditch the players who got them established in the first place, the players who have been on the journey and established the culture. We have Arfield, Heaton, Mee, Vokes and Marney who have been here since the beginning of the journey. Whilst only Mee and a fit Heaton may be first choices now, the other 3 are all key to maintaining the identity of the team and particularly as the chances of our manager moving on increase, I think it is vital we keep at least Vokes and Arfield (as the younger of the 3) at the heart of the squad.

To be fair Spice, I don't think anyone has written him off. We know what we get from Arfield but you cannot possibly say he offered any contribution at Leicester at the weekend - he was truly awful. I expect him to start at the weekend though and I'm sure the majority will support him.

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:30 pm

jlup1980 wrote:I've seen Alejandro Darío Gómez play a couple of games for Atalanta recently and he looks a class act. He's 29 though so maybe a bit old. However, he's a lad who plays in any of the front 4 positions of a 4-2-3-1. Good workrate and real quality on the ball. He's scored 29 in 107 Serie A games so not a bad return for an attacking midfielder.

I'm sure Sean has his eye on someone though and the Board simply have to back him in January given the incredible start to the campaign we've had. We shall see.

Only 5 years off a career threating injury. cant touch him

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:59 pm

Anyone have any championship ones we could go for in January. Preferably young. I can only think of Pritchard and Jack Grealish. Both of these are more CAM type players who can play on the wing though. Grealish is a very good player on the ball and has bags of potential but maybe not a dyche player.
Anybody else?

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:10 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote:Anyone have any championship ones we could go for in January. Preferably young. I can only think of Pritchard and Jack Grealish. Both of these are more CAM type players who can play on the wing though. Grealish is a very good player on the ball and has bags of potential but maybe not a dyche player.
Anybody else?

Jack Grealish? Jack? Grealish? Is this some kind of joke? You sick man.

billyhamilton82 · Post by **billyhamilton82** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:18 pm

A morphed version of Robbie Brady, Leighton James, David Eyres and Tony Morley with a dash of George Boyd would be ideal.

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:18 pm

Dyched wrote:Jack Grealish? Jack? Grealish? Is this some kind of joke? You sick man.

Yes, it was a bit of a stupid suggestion

but he could seriously turn into a good player.

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:20 pm

billyhamilton82 wrote:A morphed version of Robbie Brady, Leighton James, David Eyres and Tony Morley with a dash of George Boyd would be ideal.

Sounds good but I think there a few players with all those qualities. I think they go by the name of ronaldo and messi, and even they don't have the dash of George Boyd in them...

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:29 pm

How many times does a player later in their career get moved position to play better in a different role? The only example I can think of is Thierry Henry.

Bale did too of course but he was a lot younger.

Taylor is 24.

Just look at Ben Mee at left back. He was always a centre half and heart and Taylor will always be a full back. No point changing it when we have other options.

Even Boyd when he played for us would have been better in a number 10 role if you ask me.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:44 pm

As a player i actually like grealish. Think he would thrive under dyche too.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:00 pm

Some people have said that Taylor can play cb. I say he is far more likely to be better left side midfielder than a cb. Before anyone quotes Sean Dyche's views I don't believe he actually thinks Taylor is a cb, rather that his possible comments were made because the cb he wanted to sign did not materialise for some reason and he knew that there was an inexplicable hole in his squad.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:02 pm

superdimitri wrote:How many times does a player later in their career get moved position to play better in a different role? The only example I can think of is Thierry Henry.

Bale did too of course but he was a lot younger.

Taylor is 24.

Just look at Ben Mee at left back. He was always a centre half and heart and Taylor will always be a full back. No point changing it when we have other options.

Even Boyd when he played for us would have been better in a number 10 role if you ask me.

Fabian Delph
Wayne Rooney

and that's giving it about 1 second of thought

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:13 pm

summitclaret wrote:Some people have said that Taylor can play cb. I say he is far more likely to be better left side midfielder than a cb. Before anyone quotes Sean Dyche's views I don't believe he actually thinks Taylor is a cb, rather that his possible comments were made because the cb he wanted to sign did not materialise for some reason and he knew that there was an inexplicable hole in his squad.

Spot on. Dyche may have even been hinting to the board that he needed the money to spend on a CB. But I dont believe he genuinely saw Taylor as a centreback.