What will our allocation be?

Vince Fontaine · Post by **Vince Fontaine** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:54 pm

With us being drawn to Man City away in the fa cup are we likely to take the full amount of tickets available to us?
I make it about 8,200-8,300
15% of capacity (55,097)
And will we sell out?
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cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:26 pm

We will never know.

Wilf Mbanga · Post by **Wilf Mbanga** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:26 pm

If we sell 2000 we’ll have done well.

On a side note I really hate the Etihad. A soulless bowl in the middle of nowhere. The worst of the modern stadia in my eyes and exactly what we don’t want the turf ever to be like.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:34 pm

Wilf Mbanga wrote:If we sell 2000 we’ll have done well.

On a side note I really hate the Etihad. A soulless bowl in the middle of nowhere. The worst of the modern stadia in my eyes and exactly what we don’t want the turf ever to be like.

I like it. Far better than Old Trafford and Anfield.

Decent facilities around the ground as well.

Wilf Mbanga · Post by **Wilf Mbanga** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:43 pm

Depends what you’re looking for in a ground. It lacks character for me and history (obviously).

I like anfield (though prefer goodison) and I thought. Maine Road was great - a great atmosphere with an edge of menace to keep you on your toes. Just like the turf used to be like!

taio · Post by **taio** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:54 pm

Don't like Etihad at all. As said, a soulless place.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:01 pm

City will offer us about 8 thousand, whether Burnley take them it not is another matter. I'm not keen on the Etihad either, apart from it's location fairly close to the city centre don't think it's got much going for it.

S27bfc · Post by **S27bfc** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:16 pm

I remember when we played Chelsea away we got 6,200 tickets and no one said we would sell out on a Tuesday night.On occasions like this we come together as a group of supporters its in are blood utc

Wilf Mbanga · Post by **Wilf Mbanga** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:22 pm

S27bfc wrote:I remember when we played Chelsea away we got 6,200 tickets and no one said we would sell out on a Tuesday night.On occasions like this we come together as a group of supporters its in are blood utc

I think there are different circumstances here. We’d not played at Chelsea for years and for whatever reason there was a bizarre optimism before the game.

I was really looking forward to a good cup run (it may well still happen) as it’s the only thing missing over the last few years. You have to believe I suppose!

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:22 pm

I'll have 3.

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clitheroeclaret2 · Post by **clitheroeclaret2** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:05 am

S27bfc wrote:I remember when we played Chelsea away we got 6,200 tickets and no one said we would sell out on a Tuesday night.On occasions like this we come together as a group of supporters its in are blood utc

Totally agree with above. Lots of Clarets can't get to away matches mainly due to exorbitant cost and ticket availability. This won't be the case here so a great opportunity to cheer on the team to victory!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:36 am

S27bfc wrote:I remember when we played Chelsea away we got 6,200 tickets and no one said we would sell out on a Tuesday night.On occasions like this we come together as a group of supporters its in are blood utc

I must admit that I was stunned when we sold out at Chelsea but that was very different from this one.

When we went to Chelsea in 2008 it was our first visit to Stamford Bridge for 26 years so many Burnley fans had never seen us play there. We are regular visitors to the Etihad.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:37 am

clitheroeclaret2 wrote:Totally agree with above. Lots of Clarets can't get to away matches mainly due to exorbitant cost and ticket availability. This won't be the case here so a great opportunity to cheer on the team to victory!

Exorbitant cost is now a maximum price of £30 for tickets.

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:07 am

ClaretTony wrote:Exorbitant cost is now a maximum price of £30 for tickets.

Does that apply to cup games?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:10 am

Leisure wrote:Does that apply to cup games?

No, that's only for Premier League games.

tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:15 am

And should we be entitled to 8250 tickets?

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:20 am

City will have far bigger games to come than this so if the tickets are £10 /£15 adults theres no reason we cant sell 8000. The ease of getting there to x43/train.

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:25 am

tybfc wrote:And should we be entitled to 8250 tickets?

Yes, if that's 15% of capacity. Although in the past they've given a reduced allocation to Man Utd and they gave Wolves 5500 in the Carabao (sp) in October.

tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:35 am

I don't think that they have an option in the FA Cup Peter though somebody may prove me wrong.

Get your 50 busses ready.

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:51 am

I'm of the opinion that we'll sell quite a few for this game.
It's up the road and easily accessible, but mainly there are groups of friends who hold different levels of claret points, it's rare that all those mates will be able to get tickets never mind tickets together, those with over 5000 points can afford to hang on and get tickets with mates who hold say 1500 points.
Good day out at one of the country's leading clubs, just down the road and probably not at pocket breaking prices

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:53 am

Burnley set to take 1,200 tickets no doubt....

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:10 am

I think we'll take at least 5,000 - hopefully more.
As for the ground I like it - think it's a great ground and I've been there a few times when the atmosphere has been great.
I prefer it to Arsenal's ground and in recent years the atmosphere for our games at City has been better than at Old Trafford

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:25 am

Lets hope it's £10 a ticket. We only just sold out 3k for the league game and not everyone believes in the cup magic these days I'm afraid.

£10 a ticket and no loyalty point system (so everyone can buy together) could see us take 6k plus.

8k might be pushing it as Sheff Utd 94 might be the last time we took that many away.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:51 am

How many would those Lincoln Imps demand?

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:05 pm

I don't think we would take as many as the Lincoln imps.

Not a big game for us. We play City twice a season, so no big deal

moaninclaret · Post by **moaninclaret** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:39 pm

This game comes a bit too soon after xmas for a lot of our fans, with Huddersfield and UTD away and an expensive time of year only just behind us, people just cant afford to splash out so soon after the festive period , mind you if the tickets are only a tenner then maybe we could get a few coppers together and make the trip, i enjoy the day out at the Etihad, especially the pub stops with the Accy Clarets with Pete and the lads, so maybe we will be able talk the missus round and ask her to dig into the bowels of her purse and buy me and my lads a ticket apiece

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:30 pm

The Etihad is a fantastic stadium for watching pop concerts,seen the Chilli Peppers & The Foo Fighters there,for watching a game of football in it...forget it!

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:45 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Burnley set to take 1,200 tickets no doubt....

And tell no one and announce that we've sold out midway through the first morning

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:49 pm

moaninclaret wrote:This game comes a bit too soon after xmas for a lot of our fans, with Huddersfield and UTD away and an expensive time of year only just behind us, people just cant afford to splash out so soon after the festive period , mind you if the tickets are only a tenner then maybe we could get a few coppers together and make the trip, i enjoy the day out at the Etihad, especially the pub stops with the Accy Clarets with Pete and the lads, so maybe we will be able talk the missus round and ask her to dig into the bowels of her purse and buy me and my lads a ticket apiece

Although many couldn't get Hudds and Utd so this could be an alternative

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:23 pm

moaninclaret wrote:This game comes a bit too soon after xmas for a lot of our fans, with Huddersfield and UTD away and an expensive time of year only just behind us, people just cant afford to splash out so soon after the festive period , mind you if the tickets are only a tenner then maybe we could get a few coppers together and make the trip, i enjoy the day out at the Etihad, especially the pub stops with the Accy Clarets with Pete and the lads, so maybe we will be able talk the missus round and ask her to dig into the bowels of her purse and buy me and my lads a ticket apiece

Only the fans that go everywhere will of got Huddersfield and United tickets so they're likely to go to City.
It's the we should play the kids because the leagues more important you have to convince.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:42 pm

Not worried about our away support in the slightest, only worry is the powers that be taking a stupid allocation again.

moaninclaret · Post by **moaninclaret** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:35 pm

Can clubs charge what they want for cup games ?

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:43 pm

moaninclaret wrote:Can clubs charge what they want for cup games ?

Think there's a 15 quid minimum ticket price set. May be wrong but i'm sure the away side has to agree on what the home club decides. City usually offer really cheap tickets in their cup games so fingers crossed for Saturday 3 o clock and £15 tickets with a massive away following!

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:15 pm

TV will probably snaffle this one as well which might put a few off travelling.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:21 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Think there's a 15 quid minimum ticket price set. May be wrong but i'm sure the away side has to agree on what the home club decides. City usually offer really cheap tickets in their cup games so fingers crossed for Saturday 3 o clock and £15 tickets with a massive away following!

I could have remembered incorrectly but I thought Lincoln was £10 last season?

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:23 pm

moaninclaret wrote:Can clubs charge what they want for cup games ?

All I can find is stating that for Rounds 1 to 6 the minimum charge is £10. Clubs can determine the highest price.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:24 pm

piston broke wrote:TV will probably snaffle this one as well which might put a few off travelling.

Can't see tv being interested in this one, could be wrong, not usually their 'bag' though.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:36 pm

Hopefully won't be on T.V. The only good thing about this draw is the potential to take a big following and a good Saturday out in Manchester.

moaninclaret · Post by **moaninclaret** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:37 am

Leisure wrote:All I can find is stating that for Rounds 1 to 6 the minimum charge is £10. Clubs can determine the highest price.

Thanks Pete

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:44 am

City always have cheap ticket prices for cup games, they can't fill their stadium otherwise.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:48 am

moaninclaret wrote:Can clubs charge what they want for cup games ?

They can charge anything upwards of £10 (that's been reduced from £15 previously), but there is no maximum.

Rule 20 (c) (2):

Immediately after the draw is known, the Club playing at home shall decide on the prices of admission, subject to a minimum price of £10.00 for all spectators other than concessions.

The away Club’s spectators can only be charged more than the home Club’s spectators if mutually agreed by both Clubs.

and below is Rule 21 regarding distribution of tickets:

21. DISTRIBUTION OF TICKETS

(a) All Rounds Preceding the Semi-Finals

In all matches preceding the Semi-Finals, the Visiting Club shall have the right to claim up to 15% of all accommodation for which tickets are issued providing these tickets are in a fully segregated area, and subject to the following regulations:

(i) The request for tickets shall be made within two days of the draw.

(ii) The tickets allotted to the Visiting Club, if numbered and reserved, must be of equal value to those retained by the Home Club.

(iii) In cases of replays, the Club playing away in the replay must make a request for tickets prior to the original match in order to ensure that the replay tickets are in the possession of the club playing away in the replay at the latest immediately on conclusion of the original match.

(iv) The Visiting Club shall be responsible for the payment of all tickets asked for and allotted, unless otherwise agreed between the Clubs in writing with a copy sent to The Association. All questions in dispute shall immediately be referred to The Association.

(v) The Visiting Club should settle with the Home Club for sales of tickets on or before the day of the match.

(vi) Any tickets not sold by the Visiting Club should be returned to the Home Club with their statement of tickets sales.

(vii) In the Competition Proper, a Visiting Club shall be entitled to one third of the seats usually reserved and known as “Home and Visiting Directors’ Seats” up to a maximum of 24 seats.

(viii) Where disabled facilities are provided, a Visiting Club shall have the right to claim up to 15% of this accommodation.

(ix) Where it is deemed desirable, the Professional Game Board shall have the right to vary the allocation of tickets to the Visiting Club, or require a match to be made all ticket.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:57 am

piston broke wrote:TV will probably snaffle this one as well which might put a few off travelling.

Given the other matches I think it's unlikely this will be on TV, looking a the fixtures I reckon there are at least 10 matches that will be more interesting from a TV perspective.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:00 am

aggi wrote:Given the other matches I think it's unlikely this will be on TV, looking a the fixtures I reckon there are at least 10 matches that will be more interesting from a TV perspective.

I'd be surprised if it were on TV - although I'd expect there will be one FA Cup tie in Manchester televised.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:36 am

aggi wrote:Given the other matches I think it's unlikely this will be on TV, looking a the fixtures I reckon there are at least 10 matches that will be more interesting from a TV perspective.

More attractive games from a TV perspective:

Liverpool v Everton (Obvious)
Brighton & Hove Albion v Crystal Palace (Derby)
Aston Villa v Woking (if Woking beat Peterborough) (Big old club v non-league team with great FA Cup history)
Newport County v Leeds United (Minnows vs Biggest Club In The World)
Nottingham Forest v Arsenal (Ex European champions v one of biggest clubs in the country)
Manchester United v Derby County (Because Manchester United)
Forest Green Rovers or Exeter City v West Bromwich Albion (tiny club v PL club)
Tottenham Hotspur v AFC Wimbledon (Great cup pedigree v most romantic story in football)
Fleetwood or Hereford v Leicester City (Tiny clubs with added possible Ronnie Radford factor v recent PL champs)
Shrewsbury Town v West Ham United (Moyes returns to club which gave him his most embarrassing defeat)
Norwich City v Chelsea (Chelsea)

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:07 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Manchester United's run of 58 consecutive games to be shown live on TV comes to an end. Their home game v Derby will not be screened.

The TV pics are

Liverpool v Everton (Fri BBC)
Fleetwood or Hereford v Leicester (Sat BBC)
Norwich v Chelsea (Sat BT)
Shrewsbury v West Ham (Sun BBC)
Nottingham Forest v Arsenal (Sun BT)
Brighton v Crystal Palace (Mon BT)

VAR will be used at the Brighton v Palace game. Liverpool v Everton was considered for the experiment but thought to be too high profile.

With both Manchester clubs at home, one will be moved timewise I would think.

From the other thread.

Interesting to note I'd shortlisted all 6

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:19 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:From the other thread.

Interesting to note I'd shortlisted all 6

If it was possible, would you bum yourself? I bet you've tried.

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:22 pm

Whether Burnley take the full allocation will presumably have a lot to do with whether the club have to pay for any that remain unsold.

There will be loads of empty seats in the City end though. There are for league games, they struggle in the CL, so this fixture won't see much take up from the City 'faithful'. This could lead to problems then if BFC take the minimum as - with it not being on TV - many Clarets will be in the home ends.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:18 pm

So after waiting for the T.V companies we're now going to have to wait for the GMP and the 2 Manchester clubs to decide who has to play on the Sunday.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:38 pm

No way this will be on tv, city will have a decent crowd and I reckon we’d sell 6k no problem .Gotta remember a lot of city fans just can’t get tickets for a lot of games not to mention all the Burnley fans that struggle to get an away ticket.Its also Down the road and it’s the fa cup .

To read some of the posts on here you’d think it was an allocation for a colonoscopy !

criminalclaret · Post by **criminalclaret** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:19 pm

Man Utd run of 58 consecutive games televised?!? Really? That's a full season plus every League Cup, FA Cup and Europa Cup game and still some all on British TV?

So they haven't played a 3pm game in over a year? The last non televised game must have been when they played Burnley last year?!?