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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Inchy » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:19 am

Nailed on that the signing will be announced just before KO or at half time

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by occ-claret » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:33 am

I think he'll be a great signing but how far have we come that some people are saying that we shouldn't be signing Aaron Lennon
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:38 am

I still have nightmares about Lennon's performance for Leeds in their 1-0 at Turf Moor several years ago. Mo Camara was unable to walk off the field unaided at the end, such was his state of knottedness. Lennon was awesome.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Transpennine » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:53 am

jdrobbo wrote:I still have nightmares about Lennon's performance for Leeds in their 1-0 at Turf Moor several years ago. Mo Camara was unable to walk off the field unaided at the end, such was his state of knottedness. Lennon was awesome.
Didn't Wade Elliott also give Mo the runaround before we signed him.?

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:09 am

Yes, against Bournemouth in the cup, after we'd beaten Liverpool.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by CaptJohn » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:13 am

Very pleased if this does go ahead. I think it is a sign of the calibre of players we can now attract to the club. Long may it continue.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:24 am

I don’t think people realise just how good these players that have played virtually all of their careers at the top end of the Premier League really are.

Lads who play but don’t quite make the grade at the top clubs are good players. Lads who clock up 300 plus games and multiple England caps are very very good players!

Aaron Lennon is a level above where we normally operate (like Defour for example) and it will be great to see him in a Burnley shirt especially when I grew up getting excited by signing wingers like Steve Slawson, Junior Bent and Louie Donowa!
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:31 am

I have my reservations about him but if the fee is anywhere near the 2.5mill being bandied about then it is an absolute no brainer.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:34 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:I don’t think people realise just how good these players that have played virtually all of their careers at the top end of the Premier League really are.

Lads who play but don’t quite make the grade at the top clubs are good players. Lads who clock up 300 plus games and multiple England caps are very very good players!

Aaron Lennon is a level above where we normally operate (like Defour for example) and it will be great to see him in a Burnley shirt especially when I grew up getting excited by signing wingers like Steve Slawson, Junior Bent and Louie Donowa!
Junior Bent was absolutely superb. He was whippetesque!!!!!!! By the time Brendan O`Connell returned, he had gained a yard of pace too!!! Huddersfield were doing something right.

Do loan swap deals even happen any more??????

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Firthy » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:35 am

Dazzler wrote:...And Diesel is sulking. :D
So would you if you were constantly reminded that your bad for the environment :)

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:45 am

Murger wrote:Please please please have Lennon on 1 wing and Nkoudou on the other.
It will never happen, mate. Akin to putting the framework in a bathtub full of acid.
It`ll be one or t`other + Arfield/Gudmundsson.

I wonder what Nkoudou (excuse the spelling) will think (Tottenham too!) if Lennon signs?

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by KRBFC » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:58 am

jojomk1 wrote:If he is as good as people on here are proclaiming, why are Everton letting him go ?
If he's as bad as some are making out then why has he played so many games at the top level and 20+ caps for England? I like a moan as much as anyone but I struggle to see how Aaron Lennon signing for Burnley can be anything but positive. It's a sign of progression that we can attract players of this calibre let alone afford them.
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by leightonjameslegend » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:10 am

Fantastic signing! Still plenty of pace, quality delivery, will chip in with a few goals and doesn't shirk his defensive responsibilities.
Check out the thread below to see overwhelming support for a player who always gives 100%. Add to that the Spurs supporters thoughts, says everything we need to know. The evolution of our great club continues. Exciting times, can't wait to see Lennon in Claret & Blue! UTC

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/thre ... ve.101688/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by SkiptonClaret » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:10 am

31 in April, his best days are way behind him. I’d prefer the bigger deals were reserved for younger players. We’ve alot of players in their 30’s / late 20’s, succession planning ?

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by 50 shades of Grey » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:11 am

Is he better than what we've currently got/ does he improve the football team - erm, yes.
does Dyche want him - erm, yes.
is his signing likely to 'break the bank' long term for Burnley - erm, no.

that's that then.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by 3putt » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:25 am

Anyone suggesting the signing of Aaron Lennon is in anyway negative are grasping desperately to their half empty glass!

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by claretspice » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:36 am

SkiptonClaret wrote:31 in April, his best days are way behind him. I’d prefer the bigger deals were reserved for younger players. We’ve alot of players in their 30’s / late 20’s, succession planning ?
The average age of our team is 27.9. Virtually half the league have an average age of 27 point something. We have few players under 25 to bring the average age down, so equally we cabt have an unusual number of older players to push it up.

Our other wide players are JBG and Brady who are coming into their prime, Nkoudou who is a few years short of his and Arfield who is right at his prime. One older winger is hardly creating a problem.

Apart from Lennon, the only other 30 something who are in our best team are Ward and Heaton, for whom we have ready made successors in Pope and Taylor (although Heaton is mot old for a keeper).
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Walt » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:41 am

Fantastic signing in my opinion. Who are the negative folk expecting us to sign, Willian or Di Maria?
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by claptrappers_union » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:07 am

Looking at some comments from Everton fans on Facebook. It seems he was highly regarded and praised for his 100% effort when he played.

Reminded me when I read the comments from QPR fans about Joey Barton - I was wrong about that signing.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by BleedingClaret » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:19 am

claptrappers_union wrote:Looking at some comments from Everton fans on Facebook. It seems he was highly regarded and praised for his 100% effort when he played.

Reminded me when I read the comments from QPR fans about Joey Barton - I was wrong about that signing.
Add being Dyche fit to that and he could be one very good addition to our squad , I also think if he’s struggling a bit for stability of mind being part of a tight knit organised group can surely help him.
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:40 pm

KRBFC wrote:If he's as bad as some are making out then why has he played so many games at the top level and 20+ caps for England? I like a moan as much as anyone but I struggle to see how Aaron Lennon signing for Burnley can be anything but positive. It's a sign of progression that we can attract players of this calibre let alone afford them.
In the last 4.5 seasons he has made 74 PL appearances (not starts) and scored 7 goals. His England caps peaked between 2006/2010

There is no doubt that 5 years and more ago he was playing to a reasonably high calibre level but can he now resurrect that form

I sincerely hope so

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:13 pm

Has he signed yet???

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Rick_Muller » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:12 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote:Has he signed yet???
No, he watched us today and is having second thoughts...

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by SkiptonClaret » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:25 pm

claretspice wrote:The average age of our team is 27.9. Virtually half the league have an average age of 27 point something. We have few players under 25 to bring the average age down, so equally we cabt have an unusual number of older players to push it up.

Our other wide players are JBG and Brady who are coming into their prime, Nkoudou who is a few years short of his and Arfield who is right at his prime. One older winger is hardly creating a problem.

Apart from Lennon, the only other 30 something who are in our best team are Ward and Heaton, for whom we have ready made successors in Pope and Taylor (although Heaton is mot old for a keeper).
Don’t care what the average age of the team is, pretty irrelevant to my point. We don’t have a single player in, say the 20-23 age range, that is anywhere near the first team (current loan signing apart).
If we’re spending relatively big money it’s this sort of age range we should be looking to target, appreciating assets. It’s an approach that has served us well in the recent past (Austin, Ings, Trippier, Keane).

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:54 pm

also being linked with Newcastle (but I take that with a pinch of salt)

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Rick_Muller » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:55 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:also being linked with Newcastle (but I take that with a pinch of salt)
He is linked with Newcastle, in that he’ll be on our bench on the 31st at St James Park

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Steddyman » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:15 pm

These words from Sean sound like we haven't agreed to his wage demands to me:

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... -1-8970404" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Duffer_ » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:22 pm

Steddyman wrote:These words from Sean sound like we haven't agreed to his wage demands to me:

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... -1-8970404" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Not what I got from the article but I was surprised that he wasn't unveiled at half-time. Perhaps Lennon can't compete with Puccini.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by claretspice » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:27 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote:Don’t care what the average age of the team is, pretty irrelevant to my point. We don’t have a single player in, say the 20-23 age range, that is anywhere near the first team (current loan signing apart).
If we’re spending relatively big money it’s this sort of age range we should be looking to target, appreciating assets. It’s an approach that has served us well in the recent past (Austin, Ings, Trippier, Keane).
We aren't spending big money on Lennon though. We're spending a couple of million. The sort of money we get back for finishing one league position higher or lower in the league.

We're building a team that is comfortable at this level. What we've got is exactly that, and its got a life of 2-3 years, which is as far ahead as contracts ever let you look ahead in modern football. I get the desire for appreciating assets and broadly agree, but the benefit of that is to make a profit on players and the reality is that that for as long as we are in the premier league, the revenue that goes with league position will dwarf transfer profits.

Its not a particularly exciting transfer strategy, but its the right one and boy has it been effective for us to date.
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by quoonbeatz » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:04 am

Steddyman wrote:These words from Sean sound like we haven't agreed to his wage demands to me:

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... -1-8970404" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Done deal in terms of da monayz.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:09 am

Two mil, if that's the tariff, is peanuts for Lennon.

Worth a punt, even if it doesn't come off.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by RingoMcCartney » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:10 am

quoonbeatz wrote:Done deal in terms of da monayz.
Great to see we have clarets in the hoods of Los Angeles. Skin there little blood. :lol:

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by quoonbeatz » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:24 am

Downtown Lagos brother, let's have it right.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by RingoMcCartney » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:42 am

Totally illegitimate....

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by KRBFC » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:42 am

Was Lennon spotted at the game?

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Top Claret » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:35 am

So we have not signed Lennon,?.

Lennon will be on a basic of 55k per week plus at Everton, I can't see us paying that. Maybe he would take a pay cut for a 4 year contract, who knows

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by mybloodisclaret » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:38 am

Top Claret wrote:So we have not signed Lennon,?.

Lennon will be on a basic of 55k per week plus at Everton, I can't see us paying that. Maybe he would take a pay cut for a 4 year contract, who knows
how do you know what he's on at Everton?

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by SkiptonClaret » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:04 am

claretspice wrote:We aren't spending big money on Lennon though. We're spending a couple of million. The sort of money we get back for finishing one league position higher or lower in the league.

We're building a team that is comfortable at this level. What we've got is exactly that, and its got a life of 2-3 years, which is as far ahead as contracts ever let you look ahead in modern football. I get the desire for appreciating assets and broadly agree, but the benefit of that is to make a profit on players and the reality is that that for as long as we are in the premier league, the revenue that goes with league position will dwarf transfer profits.

Its not a particularly exciting transfer strategy, but its the right one and boy has it been effective for us to date.
Ok so the transfer fee may be comparatively minor, but I’ll assume you have no idea about the signing on fee, length of contract and wages. I assume, again, that he’s on a salary at Everton that would probably dwarf alot of our current players. So the likelihood is that we’re going to offer him significantly reduced wages but a nice long contract..for a player approaching 31 and who’s game has been built around pace.
Nah, we need to recruit younger.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Dazzler » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:09 am

Has he signed yet? ;)

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:17 am

SkiptonClaret wrote:Ok so the transfer fee may be comparatively minor, but I’ll assume you have no idea about the signing on fee, length of contract and wages. I assume, again, that he’s on a salary at Everton that would probably dwarf alot of our current players. So the likelihood is that we’re going to offer him significantly reduced wages but a nice long contract..for a player approaching 31 and who’s game has been built around pace.
Nah, we need to recruit younger.
Are you present at all negotiations for incoming players?

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by BabylonClaret » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:56 am

Has he signed yet????

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by cutsy123 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:07 am

Hes odds.on to sign for newcastle

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by trawdenclaret » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:23 am

I hope lennon signs for newcastle would love matt ritchie instead.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Wokingclaret » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:24 am

Seems strange the way it was announced on Friday, seemed as so someone wanted to wake up other clubs

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Hendrickxz » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:56 pm

Get a sneaky feeling this one isn't going to happen.
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by The Enclosure » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:35 pm

I really hope you are wrong but I suspect that you may be correct.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Mala591 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:46 pm

Would be a good signing if we hadn't signed Nkoudou. JBG will still be on the right wing, Nkoudou or Arfield on the left and Lennon on bench?

Recriuitment focus should be on a quality and proven number 10.
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:53 pm

I hope the club goes in for a more adventurous recruitment policy.
So far signing these "senior" lower PL players hasn't done us a lot of good.
I hope we're looking for the next Keane/Tarkowski type and a young version of Robbie Blake

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:55 pm

boatshed bill wrote:I hope the club goes in for a more adventurous recruitment policy.
So far signing these "senior" lower PL players hasn't done us a lot of good.
I hope we're looking for the next Keane/Tarkowski type and a young version of Robbie Blake
Hasn't done us a lot of good?

We're still in the top half of the PL, despite this bad run!

Think before you post such guff! :roll:
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:04 pm

Matter of opinion.
In 8th position we have the chance to bring in some fresh young players.
We weren't put in 4th position by playing Walters, Bardsley or Wells.

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