Six Nations 2018

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:53 am

bfcmartin wrote:Got tickets for England v Wales next week really looking forward to it my first time at Twickenham come on England

Enjoy your day tomorrow Martin, let us know what you thought of your day.....

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:54 am

Eddie's a good manager clearly but he does like to get in a bit of stirring before games. He seems to crank it up when playing teams managed by people he sees as adversaries (such as Gatling and Cheika).
I doubt that any of this will affect the game but it's fodder for journalists and fans in the game build-up.

Another interesting sets of games this weekend then a fortnight wait for the next round.
There seems to be such a strong home advantage element in 6N games in recent years that it's difficult to bet against 3 home wins this week.

Bishnal · Post by **Bishnal** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:47 am

I’m going for England win between 8-12 points

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:13 pm

Yes I wish Eddie Jones would button it a bit, I don't think it's a good idea to wind the opposition up like that...sometimes that stuff comes back to bite you on the butt..Wales will be fired up enough as it is. Jones and Gatland have grudging respect for each other but both would kill to win this one...the front five battle will determine winner and loser I think...be nice to get another England win tomorrow down in Swansea.

** bfcmartin...might help - the best pubs are in Richmond imo..the Orange Tree, the Sun, the White Cross, the White Swan, the Old Ship, several others and two in St Margaret's, the Turk's Head and the St Margaret's Tavern. Twickenham pubs are fine but get very busy. Will be about £6 a pint inside including £1 for a souvenir 'glass', and drinks in the seats are allowed. Give Twickenham station a miss until at least an hour after the match. Enjoy.

bfcmartin · Post by **bfcmartin** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:23 pm

Thanks for that info Hampstead just got to our hotel near Camden off out to watch the Lion king show later then the rugby tomorrow should be a good weekend especially if the Clarets win tomorrow UTC

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:24 pm

Ok so the day before two of the games and how I see it .
England you have to go with them really as they look strong but Wales will push them and will be less then 7 points in it .
Ireland yer should have enough really expect it to be quite tight early on Italy will score but a Bonus point win for the Irish who run out 20 points plus winners .
Scotland , after last week they have to improve as for France who didn't play well but we so close to winning , going to go for a dour game but think France will win it by 4 points .

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:01 pm

Taffys to beat Hoorahs by thirty ,The Eyeties to beat the Paddys by twenty ,Jocks to beat the snail and frog eaters by ten .. ..and Bobs your uncle.

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:01 pm

As "par score" markers, my bookies has:
Ireland to win by 33
England to win by 12
Scotland to win by 5

I'm going for: Ireland by 21-25; England by 6-10 and France by 1-5 (France have got to come good sometime ??). Odds on these: 7/1, 9/2; 11/2 so if I get just one right, I'm in pocket. We'll see.
I had France to win by 1-5 v Ireland last time but very pleased to see that final effort by the Irish kill my bet as it was a great set of phases/dropkick and the greens deserved the win that game.

Caballo · Post by **Caballo** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:05 pm

conyoviejo wrote:Taffys to beat Hoorahs by thirty ,The Eyeties to beat the Paddys by twenty ,Jocks to beat the snail and frog eaters by ten .. ..and Bobs your uncle.

I'd like to see the odds on that

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:08 pm

Caballo wrote:I'd like to see the odds on that

I'm retiring on my ten pound treble winnings ..

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:14 pm

Wales to beat England by 26-30 points = 100/1
Italy to beat Ireland by 16-20 points = 110/1
Scotland to win by 6-10 points = 17/4

A tenner accumulator on that would get you over half a million I think.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:37 pm

LeadBelly wrote:Wales to beat England by 26-30 points = 100/1
Italy to beat Ireland by 16-20 points = 110/1
Scotland to win by 6-10 points = 17/4

A tenner accumulator on that would get you over half a million I think.

World cruise booked..

BigChaCha · Post by **BigChaCha** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:37 pm

Looking at that Wales team playing tomorrow I would only have 3 Welsh players at the most playing for a combined team. I think the Welsh are in for a shalacking and the bookies agree with me!

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:36 am

So far it has gone the way I did think it will in the two games yesterday , do feel for Wales as not sure how yer man upstairs didn't give them a try .
France for me today

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:49 am

I had Ireland by 26-30 points, England by 6-10 points and Scotland by 6-10 points....£4 singles and £4 on the treble..

Ireland outperformed and the treble's gone, but I'm sitting on £24 ( Eng by 6-10 @ 5/1 ) with the Scotland v France game to come...

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:52 am

Tribesmen wrote:So far it has gone the way I did think it will in the two games yesterday , do feel for Wales as not sure how yer man upstairs didn't give them a try .
France for me today

I thought the Welsh hand was on the top of the ball when the ball was still in the air, but on the side of the ball as it hit the ground.

Was he in control of the ball ? No.
Was there downward pressure (old rule) ? No

Correct decision ? I think so.
Harsh for Wales ? Yes.

Before the days of the third official, a try would have probably been given. The perils of video refs.....

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:18 pm

I thought the "was it a try or not" incident was pretty 50/50 could've gone either way. The attacker touched the ball before Watson but very debatable that he "pressed down on it". The third official decided it wasnt a try having seen a fair few replays and angles so you have to accept that.

People saying that try (& conversion) wouldve given Wales an extra 7 points to win the game are wide of the mark. They were playing advantage when that happened and, try not given, went back for the penalty from which Wales got 3 points. So the "loss" was 2 points, or 4 points if concerted.

Around the 70 minute mark, England had some concerted pressure well inside the Wales 22, some of it very central. If England had been only 2-4 points ahead, they wouldve gone for (and probably got) a drop goal. (They probably shouldve gone for the drop anyway at only 9 points ahead then).

Someone said yesterday that all sides should be happy with the game: England because they won, Wales because they have another perceived injustice to moan about for the next 12 months.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:41 pm

thought the TMO was right - the Welshman was never in control of the ball - his hand brushed the side of the ball which was spun by that action - even the old wording of "Downward pressure" would be questionable but you would understand if it was given last year - this year those words are no longer in the regulations - no try.

As much as Wales did well to come back into the match - England should be disappointed with no further scores after the 1st quarter - I thought we were on for a bonus point

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:30 am

Chester Perry wrote:thought the TMO was right - the Welshman was never in control of the ball - his hand brushed the side of the ball which was spun by that action - even the old wording of "Downward pressure" would be questionable but you would understand if it was given last year - this year those words are no longer in the regulations - no try.

As much as Wales did well to come back into the match - England should be disappointed with no further scores after the 1st quarter - I thought we were on for a bonus point

Yer right as they have now come out and said that the TMO was wrong which everyone know well apart from the TMO at the game and his white walking stick .
Can you explain the term " downward pressure " hummm a touch like a feather or a ton of bricks both are downward and both press .
Hope the French get their act together and score an injury time try with a knock on against the English .

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:19 pm

Tribesmen wrote:Yer right as they have now come out and said that the TMO was wrong which everyone know well apart from the TMO at the game and his white walking stick .
Can you explain the term " downward pressure " hummm a touch like a feather or a ton of bricks both are downward and both press .
Hope the French get their act together and score an injury time try with a knock on against the English .

I think 'downward pressure' is old hat now.

'In control' is the current phrase apparently. If so, I'd say he wasn't. Unless I was Welsh (or Irish) that is.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:06 am

So round 3 all done and dusted .
Now didn't get to see the France game as at a local football match but France have won a game at last .
Ireland did everything they could to lose the game which they controlled as Sexton was shocking taking kicks which is very much unlike him . It's all in their hands now for the championship and the Grand Slam .
England , well this has been coming but still a shock to see how bad they were . As for the Scots they did ever so well as passion really drove them along .
All in all very happy ......

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:34 am

I think Ireland will beat Scotland because of home advantage.

England will just edge France

Wales will beat Italy.

claretnproud · Post by **claretnproud** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:27 am

should be far more of this on tv.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:40 pm

So round 4 not that far away .
So today the early game in Dublin , can't see how the Scots can hold the Irish today , i think the Irish will win by 15 points and a bonus point to boot.
As for the next game the defeat last week will hurts England but the French will just about have too much for them and i see the French win in a low scoring game .
As for Wales v Italy hard call anything could happen loads of tries but Wales should have too much but you never know .

Ireland will be crowned today as Champions .

Hummmm you will not see me for dust if i am wrong .

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:37 pm

Good contest so far.

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:39 pm

A decent start to this match, might not be much in it...Scotland look encouraging.

Hoping for a Scottish win, and an English win later [that won't be easy]...which French XV will turn up?

Then we might get a very interesting St Patrick's Day match next Saturday....yes please.

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:40 pm

- oops...a soft interception breakaway try for Ireland..big Scottish error..

7-3

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:23 pm

Ireland winning breakdown.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:27 pm

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:31 pm

Scotland butcher try opportunity.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:33 pm

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:35 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Scotland butcher try opportunity.

Again.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:36 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Again.

And more again.

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:38 pm

Scotland have thrown this away...let two easy opportunities go begging, and conceded a soft 7 points themselves.

21-8 after 55 minutes.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:46 pm

3 opportunities. 2 of which have been costly. 14 points just thrown away with poor passing.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:54 pm

They obviously think there wingers are 12 foot tall and are passing accordingly.

4 th try for Ireland.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:55 pm

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:12 pm

Ireland 10 points clear in table.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:17 pm

Grand Slam Paddies , just wait and see .

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:31 pm

Ireland have won the Championship.

Wexford_Claret · Post by **Wexford_Claret** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:32 pm

Grand slam here we come.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:33 pm

France win 22-16

Caballo · Post by **Caballo** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:34 pm

To paraphrase Adrian Durham, " Eddie Jones, is he all that".

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:42 pm

Well done Ireland

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atlantalad · Post by **atlantalad** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:17 am

It'll be a great night in't, Tigh Neachtain, O'Connells, Skeff & Quays next Saturday Tribesman. All my favorites + Kings Head with my ancestral coat of arms chiseled into the granite fireplace. Sláinte chugat when we grab the Grand slam.

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:27 am

Ireland deserve the Championship, but I strongly suspect a smarting England will prove too strong at Twickenham next Saturday !!

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:56 am

Clarets4me wrote:Ireland deserve the Championship, but I strongly suspect a smarting England will prove too strong at Twickenham next Saturday !!

Ireland will beat England quite easily next week and complete the grand slam. I played rugby for 15 years but am finally losing interest in the game. Too much stop start these days. It's all about penalties and the running passing rugby is nowhere near what it used to be. Too many things are open to the refs interpretation .

The French penaltry and yellow card was a joke. It was the only way he could make a tackle so close to the line. There was no malice in the tackle, it wasn't deliberate and nobody hurt. Maybe he was supposed to stand there and let him score, a penalty to France would have been the correct decision.

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:30 am

Congratulations Ireland. You got a bit lucky in France but generally look a bit above all the rest this year and made us look pretty ordinary.

Thank you France and Scotland.....,,

Think I prefer pep to Jones the mouth.

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:38 pm

Firthy wrote:Ireland will beat England quite easily next week and complete the grand slam. I played rugby for 15 years but am finally losing interest in the game. Too much stop start these days. It's all about penalties and the running passing rugby is nowhere near what it used to be. Too many things are open to the refs interpretation .

The French penaltry and yellow card was a joke. It was the only way he could make a tackle so close to the line. There was no malice in the tackle, it wasn't deliberate and nobody hurt. Maybe he was supposed to stand there and let him score, a penalty to France would have been the correct decision.

I quite agree with you on the yellow card, but according to the laws, the Referee had no choice !

Which Club did you play for, Firthy ??

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:53 pm

Clarets4me wrote:I quite agree with you on the yellow card, but according to the laws, the Referee had no choice !

Which Club did you play for, Firthy ??

Was a long time ago in the 70/80's. I played for a small team called Ronaldsway on the Isle of Man. Went to Lancashire on a few trips and played teams like Prescott, Chorley, Newton le Willows and Lancastrians(Morecambe)

Always remember the Barbarians/All Blacks games from that era. Proper running rugby.