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ElectroClaret
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by ElectroClaret » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:51 pm
Long dragged down.
Unbelievable by Madley.

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by IndigoLake » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:54 pm
Referees always seem to find a way against Burnley. I've lost count of the number of ridiculously poor decisions and mistakes from the officials in our games this season.
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by ClaretAndJew » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:55 pm
It's just tough ****. We didn't deal with the cross.
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by IanMcL » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:57 pm
Southampton a team desired by prem league to be in prem.
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by starting_11 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:57 pm
**** happens.
The goalkeeper one was the one he got badly wrong.
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by joey13 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:57 pm
Can’t control ref decisions, Dyche can control tactics and use of subs etc , try looking there .
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by joey13 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:57 pm
IanMcL wrote:Southampton a team desired by prem league to be in prem.
What utter rubbish
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by watsonsclarets » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:58 pm
We are playing dire negative crap.
Injuries or not.
But in truth if it had stayed a 1-0 would we be moaning!!!
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by IndigoLake » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:59 pm
IanMcL wrote:Southampton a team desired by prem league to be in prem.
I certainly feel the referees try to guide the game in a certain direction at times. Like puppeteers.
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by IanMcL » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:59 pm
joey13 wrote:What utter rubbish
They are. Biggest team on South coast. Brighton and Bournemouth expendable.
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by cockneyclaret » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:59 pm
Soton there for the taking SD too stubborn to change and dangerously hung on for a 1 nill..
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by ClaretAndJew » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:00 pm
Absolute ******** if you think there's a conspiracy against us by officials.
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by LoveCurryPies » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:01 pm
I just wish we used our subs. Fresh legs must be better than those that have run for 70 mins.
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by Tall Paul » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:01 pm
joey13 wrote:Can’t control ref decisions, Dyche can control tactics and use of subs etc , try looking there .
We were in complete control. Southampton didn't look like they were going to score if the game went on for another couple of hours.
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by joey13 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:03 pm
Tall Paul wrote:We were in complete control. Southampton didn't look like they were going to score if the game went on for another couple of hours.
1-1
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by Tall Paul » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:05 pm
joey13 wrote:1-1
You can't legislate for the referee fouling one of our players, especially that late in the game.
It was just one of those things, thankfully it's not going to cost us too dearly.
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by wilks_bfc » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:06 pm
LoveCurryPies wrote:I just wish we used our subs. Fresh legs must be better than those that have run for 70 mins.
The amount of running Wood was doing on he touchline I don’t think would have been very fresh
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by boiledclaret » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:08 pm
Once the ref blocked Westwood we were on the back foot. You could just see it happening, it was just so inevitable. Someone should have chopped their lad down and taken one for the team.
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by Chuckypad » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:18 pm
Naivety allowed the goal more than anything
Westwood and Cork had opportunities to bring the lad running through the middle down, but neither took their chance. We seriously need to learn when to make a good foul
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by CombatClaret » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:21 pm
Chuckypad wrote:Naivety allowed the goal more than anything
Naivety - lack of experience, wisdom, or judgement.
Yes Bobby Madley was very Naive.
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by SGr » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:23 pm
IanMcL wrote:They are. Biggest team on South coast. Brighton and Bournemouth expendable.
There’s no pro-Southampton conspiracy ffs. Fact is he red has f*cked up and got in the way, and cost us the game
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by MrClaretandBlue » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:23 pm
We need to realise that games last ninety minutes.
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by boiledclaret » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:26 pm
Chuckypad wrote:Westwood and Cork had opportunities to bring the lad running through the middle down, but neither took their chance. We seriously need to learn when to make a good foul
The ref getting in the way was a rarity, granted, but we were just too bloody nice. Chop him down and have some pushing and handbags. Opportunity lost.

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by Loyalclaret » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:27 pm
I thought someone should have made a tactical foul
Then again it didn’t help against Liverpool
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by MACCA » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:28 pm
Tall Paul wrote:We were in complete control. Southampton didn't look like they were going to score if the game went on for another couple of hours.
Yet Pope was the busier GK including a worldie of a tip onto the post...
1-1 was a fair result IMO. Saints certainly were adventurous.
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by SalisburyClaret » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:38 pm
Maybe Westwood should have brought the ref down - that would have stopped the game
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by dermotdermot » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:41 pm
The referee didn't just get in the way, he looked to be deliberately obstructing him. He should have stopped the game once he realized that Southampton had won possession and re-started with a drop ball. That was just so unfair.
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by dermotdermot » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:44 pm
SalisburyClaret wrote:Maybe Westwood should have brought the ref down - that would have stopped the game
Actually a good idea. He should have just grabbed him and thrown him aside. He would have been sent off and banned for a few games but it would have been worth it. It would have been quite entertaining to see as well.
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by fidelcastro » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:48 pm
dermotdermot wrote:The referee didn't just get in the way, he looked to be deliberately obstructing him. He should have stopped the game once he realized that Southampton had won possession and re-started with a drop ball. That was just so unfair.
Deliberately?
Get a life.
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by ClaretAndJew » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:51 pm
All the officials are against BFC they don't want us in the PL, didn't you know? Next game we're gonna see the ref curl a worldie in from 30 yards and it'll be given as an off the ball freak incident and everyone on here will toss each other off in sync whilst frothing at the gash over the conspiracy theories.
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by fidelcastro » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:53 pm
ClaretAndJew wrote:All the officials are against BFC they don't want us in the PL, didn't you know? Next game we're gonna see the ref curl a worldie in from 30 yards and it'll be given as an off the ball freak incident and everyone on here will toss each other off in sync whilst frothing at the gash over the conspiracy theories.
I bet the same people believe that Diana was murdered.

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by ClaretAndJew » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:54 pm
Diana is still alive.
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by ElectroClaret » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:56 pm
So is Elvis.
Works down the chip shop, apparently.
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by dermotdermot » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:58 pm
fidelcastro wrote:Deliberately?
Get a life.
Well I didn’t mean that he actually did it deliberately. It just didn’t look as he made any attempt to get out of the way and just stood his ground.
p.s. you get a life
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by Andreshotboots » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:59 pm
How about we just keep the ball from our corner on 89 minutes in the corner. Win a series of throw ins/ corners and all that happened wouldn't have had. Lunacy throwing it into the box.
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by fidelcastro » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:00 pm
dermotdermot wrote:Well I didn’t mean that he actually did it deliberately. It just didn’t look as he made any attempt to get out of the way and just stood his ground.
p.s. you get a life
You used the word "deliberately", what would you expect people reading that to think?
I repeat... get a life!
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by ClaretAL » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:02 pm
I thought the rules were if the Ref makes a 100% obstruction that then develops in to a BIG advantage to the opposition, then he calls the play back for a drop ball? Also from where i was looked a handball for the goal.
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by Cirrus_Minor » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:02 pm
Southampton took advantage of the ref getting in the way of our play and we were out of position. These things happen, but if we had been a bit more adventurous before hand we could have already put the game to bed.
Away from home at Southampton we were under pressure and the manager puts an extra striker on, why not do it again home when we were winning?
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by fidelcastro » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:04 pm
ClaretAL wrote:I thought the rules were if the Ref makes a 100% obstruction that then develops in to a BIG advantage to the opposition, then he calls the play back for a drop ball? Also from where i was looked a handball for the goal.
I don't think so. The referee is effectively part of the pitch in these instances.
I seem to remember Graham Poll getting in the way in a Cup Semi Final a few years ago, which led to a goal.
There was no bringing play back in that example either.
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by boatshed bill » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:05 pm
ClaretAL wrote:I thought the rules were if the Ref makes a 100% obstruction that then develops in to a BIG advantage to the opposition, then he calls the play back for a drop ball? Also from where i was looked a handball for the goal.
I don't think so. As I recall it the ref has no influence in play....like he doesn't really have a physical presence. I'm fairly sure that even if a rebound off the ref results in a goal would mean the goal stands.
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by dermotdermot » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:06 pm
fidelcastro wrote:You used the word "deliberately", what would you expect people reading that to think?
I repeat... get a life!
I didn’t say he did it deliberately, I said it looked as if he did it deliberately. You can read, I presume?
I repeat... you get a life (and learn to read. It’s not that difficult)
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by fidelcastro » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:15 pm
dermotdermot wrote:I didn’t say he did it deliberately, I said it looked as if he did it deliberately. You can read, I presume?
I repeat... you get a life (and learn to read. It’s not that difficult)
Semantics.
I think we all know what you meant.

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by Heaton's Gloves » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:20 pm
We aren't seriously blaming the ref for that inept display are we? Jeez.
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by fidelcastro » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:24 pm
Heaton's Gloves wrote:We aren't seriously blaming the ref for that inept display are we? Jeez.
Well... Dermot is, apparently.
He did it deliberately too.

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by Caernarfon_Claret » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:13 pm
Southampton players saying they were lucky but that they've had bad luck in recent games.
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by dermotdermot » Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:29 pm
fidelcastro wrote:Semantics.
I think we all know what you meant.

What is it with this “we” anyway? Are you part of a plan or something?
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by piston broke » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:24 am
Madeley did nothing wrong standing his ground. If he'd moved and got in the way we'd have a right to be upset. What ticks me off is that refs don't understand football, they only know the rules. If they knew the game they would see where the play was going and get away from the action.
We had a ref one game where Jones would receive the ball, immediately turn left to lay it to Ward or Arfield and the ref was stood there every time.
We do need to put some time in on seeing out the game. I'm happy to see us trying to pass it rather than just launching it but do it in their half.
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by Jeremy_Bentham » Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:04 am
. felt Long needed to be stronger for the goal.