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Tactics so disappointing

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:59 pm

Overall played well. And deserved to win. But at one nil they were always a threat.

Hendrick played better but has zero confidence in the final third. I.e. number 10. Vokes shouldve been on. Always does well against the team he supports.

We shouldve freshened it up but again tried to protect what we had.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by LoveCurryPies » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:02 pm

Listening to ClaretsPlayer and the commentators were really unimpressed most of the game.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by whiffa » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:02 pm

Hendrick worked hard, but to say he played better is a lie. He has played much better in a deeper role recently.

I do think Cork and Westwood had good games in the holding roles though, and was great to see Ward back - he was fantstic today.

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by KRBFC » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:03 pm

Played well? I thought the highlight was the half time music, summed up the game when ''cheer up sleepy jean'' came on. Half the crowd fell asleep of boredom. Negative hoofball and another home game with flat football and no atmosphere.

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:03 pm

The lack of subs cost us the game, we did nothing to stop the pressure Saints were trying to put us under. Shite from Dyche
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:04 pm

We shouldve made a sub to kill the game. Tactical naivety.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:04 pm

whiffa wrote:Hendrick worked hard, but to say he played better is a lie. He has played much better in a deeper role recently.

I do think Cork and Westwood had good games in the holding roles though, and was great to see Ward back - he was fantstic today.
Cork and westwood were fantastic together.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by KRBFC » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:07 pm

It's disappointing really that Dycheball has completely sucked out the excitement from the crowd, it feels like we're playing in an empty stadium.

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Sidney1st » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:08 pm

I've missed the comments from krbfc when things aren't going so well.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Braindead » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:08 pm

No subs is baffling. We were shite for the majority of the game. Hendrick was much better today and drove forward more like a number 10 however, like the rest of the team lacked any kind of end product.
We look decent right up until the final third where we are devoid of ideas.
Brady's loss is huge and i think it has affected the whole team.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Murger » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:10 pm

Complete yawnfest. **** tactics and not to use any subs is just ********. We didn't win today because of Dyche, not the ref.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by bfcjg » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:11 pm

Dyche got it so wrong. Players out of position players on pitch who have been poor for weeks one up front at home and no creativity no subs. I rate Dyche for all he has done for us but today was inexcusable.

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by watsonsclarets » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:11 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Cork and westwood were fantastic together.
At what covering ground they certianly where bypassed enough.

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Sidney1st » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:12 pm

On the flip side Murger we are 7th because of Dyche.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:13 pm

They're the same tactics that got us to fourth in the Premier League.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by watsonsclarets » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:14 pm

Tall Paul wrote:They're the same tactics that got us to fourth in the Premier League.
I think weare going alittle longer and direct at the minute infact i know we are.

We are playing no football at all really yes we are a 2nd ball side but even more so at the minute.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by CombatClaret » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:15 pm

Were doing our best, without our best.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by KRBFC » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:21 pm

De Boer lasted 4 games, Yawn Dyche is now on number 11.....
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Stan Tastic » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:22 pm

I think the problem is we hardly ever score more than one, so we're hanging onto one goal leads as the opposition are pressing more men forward towards the end of games.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Longsidebovril » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:24 pm

No Defour. No Brady.

Two huge misses in the class department.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:24 pm

watsonsclarets wrote:I think weare going alittle longer and direct at the minute infact i know we are.

We are playing no football at all really yes we are a 2nd ball side but even more so at the minute.
We are going a little more direct, because of the personnel we're missing through injury, but the tactics aren't significantly different, particularly from the Watford and Stoke wins that took us up to fourth.

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by slw » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:25 pm

Too predictable and easy to play against. Seems impossible to score 2 at home. More long ball shite from dyche next week.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by cockneyclaret » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:25 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:The lack of subs cost us the game, we did nothing to stop the pressure Saints were trying to put us under. Shite from Dyche
Spot on, we should have finished them 2 or 3 nill..
I'm still in shock how negative SD has made us play.
Soton were there for the taking and we somewhat went for a 1 nill win!!! Don't know why we do this

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Murger » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:29 pm

Sidney1st wrote:On the flip side Murger we are 7th because of Dyche.
Because of Dyche, we are now 11 without a win. Wouldn't it make a refreshing change if we actually tried to win a game.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:33 pm

I really don't understand managers.
You'd think, with us virtually safe, that the manager would take the opportunity to try a few things out.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:35 pm

boatshed bill wrote:I really don't understand managers.
You'd think, with us virtually safe, that the manager would take the opportunity to try a few things out.
Like Nkoudou :cry:
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:35 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Like Nkoudou :cry:
Certainly. And has Wells been given any chance to impress?

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by MACCA » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:37 pm

boatshed bill wrote:I really don't understand managers.
You'd think, with us virtually safe, that the manager would take the opportunity to try a few things out.
We should try that scoring and winning malarkey, it looks fun ;)

Fair result today though IMO, no harsh cries from me.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:40 pm

Murger wrote:Because of Dyche, we are now 11 without a win. Wouldn't it make a refreshing change if we actually tried to win a game.
Nine wins in 28 PL games though.

It's almost as if the order we get the results is more important than the results themselves.

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by KRBFC » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:45 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Nine wins in 28 PL games though.

It's almost as if the order we get the results is more important than the results themselves.
You're very good at making excuses you should try politics.

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Murger » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:45 pm

We had the excuses when the bad run started that we were playing the top teams. This is true. But now, we are playing the likes of Swansea and Southampton and still setting up not to lose. What's all that about?

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Heaton's Gloves » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:46 pm

Think i might gjve the next game a miss. Like watching the fire go out of late. Truly boring!
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:46 pm

KRBFC wrote:You're very good at making excuses you should try politics.
You're very good at lying and breaking promises, so should you.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by claretdj » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:47 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Overall played well. And deserved to win. But at one nil they were always a threat.

Hendrick played better but has zero confidence in the final third. I.e. number 10. Vokes shouldve been on. Always does well against the team he supports.

We shouldve freshened it up but again tried to protect what we had.
Tall Paul wrote:
You're very good at lying and breaking promises, so should you.

Played well? That was the worst home performance of the season by a mile n as for Hendrick the sooner we get rid the better..

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by KRBFC » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:50 pm

Tall Paul wrote:You're very good at lying and breaking promises, so should you.
Did you attend today? How about you tell me your thoughts about the game instead of waffling excuses and papering over cracks.

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Sidney1st » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:50 pm

:x
Murger wrote:Because of Dyche, we are now 11 without a win. Wouldn't it make a refreshing change if we actually tried to win a game.
Because of Dyche we will enter our 3rd successive PL season ....

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Sidney1st » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:51 pm

KRBFC wrote:Did you attend today? How about you tell me your thoughts about the game instead of waffling excuses and papering over cracks.
Based on your efforts about our away form last season it shouldn't matter if someone attends or not.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:51 pm

KRBFC wrote:Did you attend today? How about you tell me your thoughts about the game instead of waffling excuses and papering over cracks.
No, I watched it on an HD stream. Of course that probably makes my opinion invalid in your eyes, but it's on the match day thread.

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by ewanrob » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:58 pm

That was absolute crap...embarrassing tactics. Why Sean didn't change it is extremely frustrating..even to waste some time. Really feel for Hendrick, this lad clearly doesn't feel comfortable with his role, and is a big miss in his natural position....never a No10 in a million years. Only one person who gave that away today and it wasn't the bloke with the whistle.

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by KRBFC » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:00 pm

Tall Paul wrote:No, I watched it on an HD stream. Of course that probably makes my opinion invalid in your eyes, but it's on the match day thread.
Absolutely not, I just wanted your opinion and not these excuses, that's all.

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by KRBFC » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:00 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Based on your efforts about our away form last season it shouldn't matter if someone attends or not.
I never said it did, I asked if he attended today hence the question mark at the end.

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:01 pm

I am beginning to wonder where all the bullish confidence has gone, and why. I know we've had a run of injuries and not won for a while but we've still done alright... blooded a top keeper and sit higher in the table than anyone dreamt possible a few months ago. It's time everyone from SD down to the fans got a smile back on there faces and on their boots!

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:04 pm

KRBFC wrote:Absolutely not, I just wanted your opinion and not these excuses, that's all.
I like to look at the bigger picture rather than individual games or runs of games and my opinion is that we're exceeding all expectations this season.

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by SkiptonClaret » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:04 pm

Dismal stuff from two teams short on confidence. The draw was about right.
Our football is generally awful stuff to watch, season peaked in December. Earlier in the season we had a lot of luck that meant we fell on the right side of performances like today, not anymore- in desperate need of a plan B.

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by JimmyMac'sMate » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:05 pm

Proud to be a premiership claret stop whinging please utc

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by 3putt » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:10 pm

I absolutely acknowledge that Dyche has been fantastic for Burnley, but he is without negative when it comes to the attacking side of the game. He absolutely loves a 1-0 nil win, but that is costing us as we are clearly vulnerable to conceding that slender lead or turning an away point into a loss by trying to hang on.

We should of won today and more than likely would of done had Dyche taken a more positive approach. Clearly needed to make a couple of changes and wrap the game up rather once again hope that the 1-0 was enough.

As brilliant as our start to the season was, we are clearly showing relegation form. Thankfully we are safe, but very disappointing that Dyche can't bring himself to be braver in his approach to games.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by cockneyclaret » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:14 pm

We didn't play badly at all, but we did need to change it when it was getting stale.. ok we scored but we should have gone for the kill and walked away with a comfortable 2 or 3 nill win.
I can't fathom why SD kept it as it was??

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by KRBFC » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:18 pm

cockneyclaret wrote:We didn't play badly at all, but we did need to change it when it was getting stale.. ok we scored but we should have gone for the kill and walked away with a comfortable 2 or 3 nill win.
I can't fathom why SD kept it as it was??
Did their keeper even make a save? if that wasn't bad then i'd hate to see a bad game.

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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Stan Tastic » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:21 pm

JimmyMac'sMate wrote:Proud to be a premiership claret stop whinging please utc
You can't be that proud, you got the name of the league we're playing in wrong.
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Re: Tactics so disappointing

Post by Clarinetclaret » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:27 pm

Tall Paul wrote:I like to look at the bigger picture rather than individual games or runs of games and my opinion is that we're exceeding all expectations this season.
So in other words if we were heading towards league 1 you'd still be harping on about Dyche had us up to 4th in the premier league. We should be pushing on with confidence instead of this boring, negative football that he insists on playing now.

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