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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:10 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Thank you.

The punishment for evading the licence fee is a fine of up to £1,000, but those who refuse to pay up can be hauled back before the courts and sent to jail. 

Just how much of a super massive pedantic clown are You!?? 

Sound familiar uphisownturtle?

Don't pay your tv licence you wind up in jail.

It's Groundhog Day with the future Strangeways Claret! :lol: :lol:

Somebody pass uphisownturtle a tissue! :o

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by UpTheBeehole » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:11 pm

Blackrod wrote:Or they could be very poor. How judgemental.
They should sell their TV then

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by houseboy » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:13 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:It needs work. Put it that way!

If you tried the sky's the limit! Who knows you could actually admit that you were wrong! :lol:

But that ain't ever gonna happen is It! :lol:

Don't be rushing the script into the BBC will you. If they were to broadcast that, id predict a massive rise in non payment of the tv licence and 1000s more would wind up in jail!

Oh the self fulfilling irony!!

Forget the script writing fella. Just stick to what you're best at. Being wrong.
I know I'll stick to the one book and several magazine articles that have already seen the light of day in the past.
Meanwhile I'll leave you to thinking that a court fine is the same as not paying a TV licence. Don't bother with the old 'he's leaving because he knows he has lost' chestnut, I'd expect something more original from you. I have to go and wash my hair.

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:20 pm

It's just dawned on me uphisownTurtle.

You're alresdy doing time for non payment of the tv licence aren't you! My Strangeways Clarets friend.

That's why you're always posting on here at 2,3 and 4 o'clock in the Morning!

Yes it all fits into place! You're scared to fall asleep in case of Tender Pauls "friends" fancy a change. So to keep awake you defiantly claim that your only doing a stretch cos you didn't pay the fine! Definately definately not for not paying the BBC poll tax! Oh yes! You're really getting one over on old Ringo aren't you! Genuinely hope it's the only stretch that you're having to endure! Owch! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by UpTheBeehole » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:22 pm

Two different variations in three uses yet you still didn't spell 'definitely' correctly

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by ecc » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:24 pm

Blimey! Didn't expect to see four pages on this.

It's patronising re. Arsenal fans but I feel it is also towards us. Many of you disagree with me but that's not important. We're all entitled to our opinion.

I don't think he should be trying to have a go at any team. He should be objective. I was sick of his Leicester love-in.

However, I will say that he does sometimes make good comments (in my opinion of course).

Whatever. We're seventh.:)

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:27 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Two different variations in three uses yet you still didn't spell 'definitely' correctly
Well spotted Mr pedant. However not as forensic as you'd like to think! The first one was defiantly! But 2 out of 3 , for you, is outstanding!

Hey I believe they have strange ways in Strangeways apparently uphisownTurtle.

For your sake.

Hope they don't transfer you to Bellmarsh!!!!!!!! :o

I'll pick some much needed Kleenex up from the turtle bunker , for you, if you give me the code to access security.

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by aggi » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:46 pm

This is my favourite Ringo thread for a while. Argue one thing, provide links that don't actually prove what you're saying, gradually change your argument to try and make it fit the facts without really appreciating why it was wrong in the first place and use lots of laughing smileys.

Fair play to him though, he's managed to tempt in half a dozen people who are naive enough to believe that presenting him with facts will actually convince him he's wrong.
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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:16 pm

aggi wrote:This is my favourite Ringo thread for a while. Argue one thing, provide links that don't actually prove what you're saying, gradually change your argument to try and make it fit the facts without really appreciating why it was wrong in the first place and use lots of laughing smileys.

Fair play to him though, he's managed to tempt in half a dozen people who are naive enough to believe that presenting him with facts will actually convince him he's wrong.
Don't pay your tv licence you wind up in jail.

Try not paying the BBC poll tax. See how you get on!

Fancy joining the burgeoning Strangeways Clarets!?

:lol: :lol:

last year 107,000 were given a criminal record for failing to pay money to the BBC
Anyone refusing to pay a fine could be sent to prison and at least 70 people have received custodial sentences in recent years. 
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/cour ... 28836.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news ... 21028.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/cour ... 28836.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/59904 ... -fines/amp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Woman pensioner jailed for not paying TV licence - ridiculous cost of jailing fine dodgers in Northern Ireland

Houseboy claimed you couldn't get jail or a criminal record for not paying the regressive, indefensible BBC poll tax.

He was wrong. As have numerous other posters!

Turtles gone quiet. I wonder if its slopping out time or even worse, slipping in time for him and Strangeways Claret, Tender Paul!? :lol:
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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by UpTheBeehole » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:20 pm

Do you pay the licence fee Ringo?

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:26 pm

Vast amounts of money are transferred from poor people to Lineker each year. In return he beats the establishment drum. What amazes me is that the self proclaimed men of the people on this board support such scams. Real socialists would be outraged.

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:43 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Vast amounts of money are transferred from poor people to Lineker each year. In return he beats the establishment drum. What amazes me is that the self proclaimed men of the people on this board support such scams. Real socialists would be outraged.
Absolutely!

The spectre of so called left wingers on here, defending a tax that demands the same from a millionaire or an unemployed guy, regardless of their inability to pay, is a hypocritical sight to behold!

:lol:

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:07 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Do you pay the licence fee Ringo?
Of course!

I don't want to bed up like you and Tender Paul in the Strangeways Clarets. Defiantly declaring that it wasn't not paying the BBC poll tax that got you into this sticky mess, but not paying the fine!! You hang on in there sweet cheeks , I'm sure the hard of hearing warden will come to your rescue. Eventually!

You can tell him all about you sticking to your principles. And the mattress:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by ClaretRoob » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:18 pm

I dont usually post much really but taken directly from the TV licensing website

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-y ... lties-top5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

'Not covered by a TV Licence? You are breaking the law if you:

watch or record programmes as they're being shown on TV or live on an online TV service, or
download or watch BBC programmes on iPlayer – live, catch up or on demand.
This applies to any device or provider you use, including a TV, desktop computer, laptop, mobile phone, tablet, games console, digital box or DVD/Blu-Ray/VHS recorder.

You could be prosecuted if we find that you have been watching, recording or downloading programmes illegally. The maximum penalty is a £1,000* fine plus any legal costs and/or compensation you may be ordered to pay.

*The maximum fine is £2,000 in Guernsey.'

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:22 pm

ClaretRoob wrote:I dont usually post much really but taken directly from the TV licensing website

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-y ... lties-top5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

'Not covered by a TV Licence? You are breaking the law if you:

watch or record programmes as they're being shown on TV or live on an online TV service, or
download or watch BBC programmes on iPlayer – live, catch up or on demand.
This applies to any device or provider you use, including a TV, desktop computer, laptop, mobile phone, tablet, games console, digital box or DVD/Blu-Ray/VHS recorder.

You could be prosecuted if we find that you have been watching, recording or downloading programmes illegally. The maximum penalty is a £1,000* fine plus any legal costs and/or compensation you may be ordered to pay.

*The maximum fine is £2,000 in Guernsey.'
Now all you have to do is take it one stage further in the process.

If your skint enough not to be able to afford the tv licence. How likely is it that you'll be able to find the grand?

Then you'll realise why so many have found themselves in prison.

#scrapthelicencefee.

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by ClaretRoob » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:25 pm

Which is to not pay the court ordered fine up to the £1000?

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by UpTheBeehole » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:32 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Now all you have to do is take it one stage further in the process.

If your skint enough not to be able to afford the tv licence. How likely is it that you'll be able to find the grand?

Then you'll realise why so many have found themselves in prison.

#scrapthelicencefee.
If you can't afford a TV licence, then sell your TV.

If you couldn't afford to run a car, you'd get rid of it and use the money for something vital.

If you're so poor that you can't afford £12 a month, then sell the TV and use the proceeds for food or heating or whatever it is this £3 a week prevents you from having.

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:54 pm

ClaretRoob wrote:Which is to not pay the court ordered fine up to the £1000?
In English?.

I think you're using the right words, they're just in the wrong order pal! ;)
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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:55 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:If you can't afford a TV licence, then sell your TV.

If you couldn't afford to run a car, you'd get rid of it and use the money for something vital.

If you're so poor that you can't afford £12 a month, then sell the TV and use the proceeds for food or heating or whatever it is this £3 a week prevents you from having.
Alternatively scrap the tv licence.......

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by UpTheBeehole » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:59 pm

Alternatively pay the TV licence. It's fantastic value for what you get. BBC programming is world-leading.
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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by Blackrod » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:03 pm

The BBC is good if not more and more agenda and and PC driven. This is about choice. You seem keen on lifestyle choice but not TV choice. You shouldn't have to have the BBC when there are alternatives.
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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by Damo » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:04 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:No you won’t
But if you don’t pay sky bill then they are able to withdraw the service that they provide, so you wouldn’t be able to use it

BBC aren’t capable of doing that
Plenty of people watch sky channels, even the ppv events without paying them a penny

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:05 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Alternatively pay the TV licence. It's fantastic value for what you get. BBC programming is world-leading.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Your little world maybe!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Scrap the tv licence, if they're so "world leading", then go subscription and let the ******* world pay for It!

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:07 pm

The BBC is an out dated bloated dinosaur.

Funded by a regressive poor punishing tax.

Bin them both.

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by South West Claret. » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:10 pm

Balderdash...oh and get your hair cut Ringo :)

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by Damo » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:15 pm

It's amazing how right wing the lefties get when sticking up for the virtue signalling, crisp salesman
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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by nil_desperandum » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:15 pm

I think that it should be acknowledged that the BBC does far more than supply a tv signal to our homes.
It would be missed in so many ways, and without it I suspect that the quality of other channels would deteriorate too.

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by superdimitri » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:17 pm

It's amazing that somehow a thread about Lineker has anything whatsoever about politics. People are obsessed.

Can we not have a football forum?

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by 1968claret » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:20 pm

Who needs a TV licence when you can have hours of fun reading threads like this :)
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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:56 pm

Imploding Turtle/ uphisownhole and Tender Paul leading members of the Strangeways Clarets for believing they could refuse to pay BBC licence tax and not actually end up in the nick!

The Strangeways Clarets- the only supporters club to have a treasurer and an official pillow biter! :shock:

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:58 pm

superdimitri wrote:It's amazing that somehow a thread about Lineker has anything whatsoever about politics. People are obsessed.

Can we not have a football forum?
Yes!

And unlike the BBC, we aren't obliged, through threat of jail, to pay for It!

Reasons to be cheerful!

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by superdimitri » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:07 pm

There is no requirement to pay it. You just let them know if you buy a t.v. That you aren't using the tuner and you don't watch anything live on the BBC. Again nothing whatsoever about politics and completely off topic.

It seems like people just get obsessed about politics on here. If you want to post about politics can't you bugger off to a political forum?

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:33 pm

superdimitri wrote:There is no requirement to pay it. You just let them know if you buy a t.v. That you aren't using the tuner and you don't watch anything live on the BBC. Again nothing whatsoever about politics and completely off topic.

It seems like people just get obsessed about politics on here. If you want to post about politics can't you bugger off to a political forum?
What's political about the tv licence? It's been enforced under the Tories, Labour and coalitions.

If you don't want to contribute to this thread can't you bugger off to another one? Just asking like. I'm assuming nobody put a gun to your head and made you post. It's not the BBC here you know. You do have a choice!
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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by superdimitri » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:58 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:What's political about the tv licence? It's been enforced under the Tories, Labour and coalitions.

If you don't want to contribute to this thread can't you bugger off to another one? Just asking like. I'm assuming nobody put a gun to your head and made you post. It's not the BBC here you know. You do have a choice!
Read the title of this thread my delusional friend. This is a football forum. Go discuss politics somewhere where it belongs. Preferably not a football forum.

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by Imploding Turtle » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:59 pm

Damo wrote:It's amazing how right wing the lefties get when sticking up for the virtue signalling, crisp salesman

There you are with that term again. You're getting like Ringo with his favourite saying.

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by Tall Paul » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:35 pm

You really are an oddball Ringo.

Most of us stopped trying to argue with you hours ago and yet you're still banging the same drum.

At least I've made the weird nickname list, I feel strangely honoured, although it is a bit of a **** one, can't you come up with something better?

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by ClaretMoffitt » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:39 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:There you are with that term again. You're getting like Ringo with his favourite saying.
He has a point though.

Its funny how even though he goes against everything the left by core should stand for (paying your taxes), they all stick up for him simply because he mouthpieces what they want to hear on social issues like Immigration, Farage and Brexit. Hes just another millionaire liberal phoney who says all the right things to their adoring followers but in reality have zero substance; a bit like that Corbyn fella actually.
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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by Imploding Turtle » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:41 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:He has a point though.

Its funny how even though he goes against everything the left by core should stand for (paying your taxes), they all stick up for him simply because he mouthpieces what they want to hear on social issues like Immigration, Farage and Brexit. Hes just another millionaire liberal phoney who says all the right things to their adoring followers but in reality have zero substance; a bit like that Corbyn fella actually.

He has no point.

It's a term used by those who want to disagree with someone but can't form an argument to do so.

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by ClaretMoffitt » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:51 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:He has no point.

It's a term used by those who want to disagree with someone but can't form an argument to do so.
Virtue signalling is exactly what these ultra-rich liberal celebrity sorts do though.

They mime the liberal "progressive" mantra over social media, enjoy all the retweets and sycophantic write ups in Buzzfeed and the Independent about them, but it's all a load of **** really, they don't believe half of what they come out with in any real depth and implement or live by even less of it.

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by Tall Paul » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:53 pm

I don't see many people "sticking up" for Lineker. And certainly not the usual posters people call the "lefties".

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:14 pm

Tall Paul wrote:You really are an oddball Ringo.

Most of us stopped trying to argue with you hours ago and yet you're still banging the same drum.

At least I've made the weird nickname list, I feel strangely honoured, although it is a bit of a **** one, can't you come up with something better?

Most with your opinion clearly realised they were wrong. The ultimate sanction for non payment of the tv licence is prison.

I posted several links from the guardian, the Huffington post, the independent, the mail and many other sources.

All of them had examples, the independent had over 800, of people being jailed as a result of not paying the BBC poll tax.

So you call it "banging the same drum". I'll call it sticking to my guns knowing that despite the usual gaggle of UTC message board lefties and pedants saying otherwise. Journalists and politicians I've sourced agree with me.

Sounds like I've touched a raw nerve there Tender Paul! Must be all that chafing your enduring! Still, prison, and all it entails, is what you get for not paying the BBC poll tax eh?!

Try and have a good night's sleep and give my regards to the rest of the Strangeways Clarets!

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by Damo » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:27 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:There you are with that term again. You're getting like Ringo with his favourite saying.
I might of known that you would take offence at that

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by Tall Paul » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:35 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Most with your opinion clearly realised they were wrong. The ultimate sanction for non payment of the tv licence is prison.

I posted several links from the guardian, the Huffington post, the independent, the mail and many other sources.

All of them had examples, the independent had over 800, of people being jailed as a result of not paying the BBC poll tax.

So you call it "banging the same drum". I'll call it sticking to my guns knowing that despite the usual gaggle of UTC message board lefties and pedants saying otherwise. Journalists and politicians I've sourced agree with me.

Sounds like I've touched a raw nerve there Tender Paul! Must be all that chafing your enduring! Still, prison, and all it entails, is what you get for not paying the BBC poll tax eh?!

Try and have a good night's sleep and give my regards to the rest of the Strangeways Clarets!
:lol:

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by Greenmile » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:37 pm

Could I be sent to jail for littering, Ringo?

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by Imploding Turtle » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:47 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Virtue signalling is exactly what these ultra-rich liberal celebrity sorts do though.

They mime the liberal "progressive" mantra over social media, enjoy all the retweets and sycophantic write ups in Buzzfeed and the Independent about them, but it's all a load of **** really, they don't believe half of what they come out with in any real depth and implement or live by even less of it.

Do you know how pathetic it makes you look when instead of accepting that other people disagree with you you instead claim that they don't actually disagree with you, they're just projecting a virtuous image?

As soon as you use that argument you've admitted defeat, and that's what you do everytime you call someone a 'virtue signaller'.

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Post by ClaretMoffitt » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:55 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Do you know how pathetic it makes you look when instead of accepting that other people disagree with you you instead claim that they don't actually disagree with you, they're just projecting a virtuous image?

As soon as you use that argument you've admitted defeat, and that's what you do everytime you call someone a 'virtue signaller'.
No I don't actually.

Would you mind quantifying just how pathetic I look? A comparative graph distinguishing between high and low level examples would be ideal but i'll settle for a 1 to 10. Just to give me some sort of an idea.

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by Damo » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:00 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Do you know how pathetic it makes you look when instead of accepting that other people disagree with you you instead claim that they don't actually disagree with you, they're just projecting a virtuous image?

As soon as you use that argument you've admitted defeat, and that's what you do everytime you call someone a 'virtue signaller'.
Triggered

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by ClaretMoffitt » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:04 pm

Damo wrote:Triggered
He definitely gets particularly triggered by me, especially so recently. Don't know why either, I'm nothing but nice to him compared to my other fellow right wingers on here :lol:
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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by aggi » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:18 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Most with your opinion clearly realised they were wrong. The ultimate sanction for non payment of the tv licence is prison.

I posted several links from the guardian, the Huffington post, the independent, the mail and many other sources.

All of them had examples, the independent had over 800, of people being jailed as a result of not paying the BBC poll tax.

So you call it "banging the same drum". I'll call it sticking to my guns knowing that despite the usual gaggle of UTC message board lefties and pedants saying otherwise. Journalists and politicians I've sourced agree with me.

Sounds like I've touched a raw nerve there Tender Paul! Must be all that chafing your enduring! Still, prison, and all it entails, is what you get for not paying the BBC poll tax eh?!

Try and have a good night's sleep and give my regards to the rest of the Strangeways Clarets!
The man has some cojones.

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Re: Lineker: patronising freeloader

Post by Falcon » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:37 pm

Ah, "virtue signalling", my favourite insult used by people who probably do sod all for charity against people who do an awful lot and use their well known standing to help promote it. As if being a philanthropist was a bad thing.

Ooh, and also the one where rich people aren't allowed to be socialists.

Think I'm winning the dickhead bingo.
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