Lineker: patronising freeloader

PLTMGMBJ · Post by **PLTMGMBJ** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:54 pm

I don't agree with the licence fee, but still pay it. I don't agree with most of what my council tax and other taxes goes towards but still pay it. I'd be perfectly happy with the BBC resorting to adverts to fund their corporation, I mean; who watches the adverts anyway?! We live in an age where we can fast forward past them. Is it worth sending people to jail over? No. It just ends up costing me more taxes.
For those who argue we're the only ones who pay a licence fee. We don't. I know the Dutch do. Whichever way you look at it, it will be funded in one way or another.Whether anyone is worth their salary is an entirely different debate.
Regards Lineker. He's made no secret of his Leicester connections, which is fair do's. You can look at it as patronising. I prefer to look at the table and have the last laugh!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:59 pm

Falcon wrote:Ah, "virtue signalling", my favourite insult used by people who probably do sod all for charity against people who do an awful lot and use their well known standing to help promote it. As if being a philanthropist was a bad thing.

Ooh, and also the one where rich people aren't allowed to be socialists.

Think I'm winning the dickhead bingo.

You make a good observation. Gary Lineker is being called a virtue-signally despite doing a lot.

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Damo · Post by **Damo** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:03 pm

It's funny how wound up certain people get whenever the term is used.
Must be a little close to the bone

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:28 pm

Damo wrote:It's funny how wound up certain people get whenever the term is used.
Must be a little close to the bone

It's cancerous to a discussion. No one's offended by it or anything, it's just a discussion killer, which is the only intention of those who use it.

It's also really, really stupid. Which makes me think you are stupid. You call me a virtue-signaller because i don't demonstrate for the causes or policies i believe will do the most good, which is like me calling you a virtue-signaller when you say you're worried about immigration and think we should cut it, just because you don't go out and protest and demonstrate against immigration. And i'm pretty sure you've never once called anyone else it for their immigration concerns when they haven't protested or demonstrated.

If you want to troll this discussion board by playing the character of a complete hypocrite whose only contribution is to troll the users then by all means carry on. I think i've only ever non-jokingly reported one post on here by a regular user. I'm happy to start adding to it if you want to carry on being a troll trying to derail discussions. It's far easier for me to do that than to try and explain to you why what you're doing is cancerous to a discussion board.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:03 pm

I'm pretty sure calling someone a virtue signaller isn't an offence Charlie.
Calm yourself down. Or go ahead and report me if it will make you feel better

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:04 pm

I'd never seen the phrase until it was used on here.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:11 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote: It's also really, really stupid. Which makes me think you are stupid. You call me a virtue-signaller because i don't demonstrate for the causes or policies i believe will do the most good, which is like me calling you a virtue-signaller when you say you're worried about immigration and think we should cut it, just because you don't go out and protest and demonstrate against immigration. And i'm pretty sure you've never once called anyone else it for their immigration concerns when they haven't protested or demonstrated.

It's funny because I can certainly see a lot of these posters being the EDL/Lads Alliance going on a march type. They talk the same game anyway.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:14 pm

Damo wrote:I'm pretty sure calling someone a virtue signaller isn't an offence Charlie.
Calm yourself down. Or go ahead and report me if it will make you feel better

Trolling is probably against the rules.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:47 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Trolling is probably against the rules.

A number of posters would have to be banned then if that was the case because it's almost a daily occurrence on here

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:56 pm

Snowflake

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:06 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:It's cancerous to a discussion. No one's offended by it or anything, it's just a discussion killer, which is the only intention of those who use it.

It's also really, really stupid. Which makes me think you are stupid. You call me a virtue-signaller because i don't demonstrate for the causes or policies i believe will do the most good, which is like me calling you a virtue-signaller when you say you're worried about immigration and think we should cut it, just because you don't go out and protest and demonstrate against immigration. And i'm pretty sure you've never once called anyone else it for their immigration concerns when they haven't protested or demonstrated.

If you want to troll this discussion board by playing the character of a complete hypocrite whose only contribution is to troll the users then by all means carry on. I think i've only ever non-jokingly reported one post on here by a regular user. I'm happy to start adding to it if you want to carry on being a troll trying to derail discussions. It's far easier for me to do that than to try and explain to you why what you're doing is cancerous to a discussion board.

>complains about certain phrases being cancerous to a discussion
>proceeds to call people he disagrees with stupid

Textbook IT.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:09 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:>complains about certain phrases being cancerous to a discussion
>proceeds to call people he disagrees with stupid

Textbook IT.

Only an idiot thinks i call people stupid because they disagree with me.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:11 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Only an idiot thinks i call people stupid because they disagree with me.

Shall we do a little forum search on every time you've called someone an idiot/stupid on this forum whilst disagreeing with them on a subject? I suspect it will make that little Ringo collaboration you made look like a drop in a sea of ****.

turfytopper · Post by **turfytopper** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:22 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:But many non-tax payers still pay the license fee, don't they? (So why concede the point?)

Everybody pays tax..... Not all incone tax.... But you can't avoid death and taxes..... But the license fee is a fee, you can avoid it.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:43 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Shall we do a little forum search on every time you've called someone an idiot/stupid on this forum whilst disagreeing with them on a subject? I suspect it will make that little Ringo collaboration you made look like a drop in a sea of ****.

Well of course I disagree with them. I'm not going to call someone an idiot when they're right. So go on. You can do a forum search and you'll find that I call idiots an idiot only when they're so obviously wrong about something that you have to be an idiot not to see it.

Just because 100% of people I call idiots are people I disagree with doesn't mean the reason I'm calling them it is that they disagree with me, otherwise I'd be calling 100% of people who disagree with me idiots. And you have to be an idiot to think otherwise.

So go on. I'll wait.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:18 am

Maybe best just to stop calling people idiots.It's puerile and you'll find that people really dont like it...

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:50 am

Interesting line to take by Imploding

Someone he disagrees with is automatically wrong, never could he be wrong himself.

As for Lineker, if he was right wing and not left wing and was a still a proud member of tax avoidance schemes and then proceeded to tell Labour what they were doing was all wrong as well as how professing undying love for the NHS but moaned it was under funded I imagine his luvvies would have a field day.

Seems for some people if someone says out loud what they want to hear you can turn a blind eye to his hypocrisy.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:01 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Interesting line to take by Imploding

Someone he disagrees with is automatically wrong, never could he be wrong himself.

That's because he starts to froth at the mouth and searches everywhere for information to prove that he's absolutely correct, or he will have it all prepared in advance, the US political mess being an example.
He appears to know, and cares more, about it than many Americans probably do.
He probably needs to get out more tbh.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:57 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Interesting line to take by Imploding

Someone he disagrees with is automatically wrong, never could he be wrong himself.

No. You have it the wrong way around. If someone is wrong then i automatically disagree with them.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:58 am

Sidney1st wrote:That's because he starts to froth at the mouth and searches everywhere for information to prove that he's absolutely correct, or he will have it all prepared in advance, the US political mess being an example.
He appears to know, and cares more, about it than many Americans probably do.
He probably needs to get out more tbh.

I search for information that either supports or disproving my position. Tell me what's wrong with that? Do you not like it when someone has facts to support their position?

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:06 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:I search for information that either supports or disproving my position. Tell me what's wrong with that? Do you not like it when someone has facts to support their position?

A lot of peple on here don't like facts ruining their beliefs.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:07 am

We established the other day that Sidney doesn't work off facts.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:13 am

I think we established quite some time ago that there are quite a lot of people on here who don't work off facts!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:17 am

God! Where's Ringo? He's going to tug his cock off seeing those three replies from "different" people all saying the same thing.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:33 am

randomclaret2 wrote:Maybe best just to stop calling people idiots.It's puerile and you'll find that people really dont like it...

Imploding Turtles Head/hole -

King of self-confirmation. What I'm saying is right. I know it's right, cos I'm the one saying it.!.....You idiot......

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:34 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:God! Where's Ringo? He's going to tug his cock off seeing those three replies from "different" people all saying the same thing.

No time for "tugging" too busy laughing at you, you massive idiot!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:36 am

Sidney1st wrote:That's because he starts to froth at the mouth and searches everywhere for information to prove that he's absolutely correct, or he will have it all prepared in advance, the US political mess being an example.
He appears to know, and cares more, about it than many Americans probably do.
He probably needs to get out more tbh.

The security system on the turtle bunker is acting up and making it very difficult for the occupants to see the light of day.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:40 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Interesting line to take by Imploding

Someone he disagrees with is automatically wrong, never could he be wrong himself.

As for Lineker, if he was right wing and not left wing and was a still a proud member of tax avoidance schemes and then proceeded to tell Labour what they were doing was all wrong as well as how professing undying love for the NHS but moaned it was under funded I imagine his luvvies would have a field day.

Seems for some people if someone says out loud what they want to hear you can turn a blind eye to his hypocrisy.

I know it's early. But this is my nomination for post of the day!

Good effort.

I hope it's not like the kiss of death like the manager of the month award and your next post is a stinker. Then again, for self important utter garbage, you'll have done real stern opposition from imploding/Beehole.!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:45 am

RingoMcCartney wrote:Imploding Turtles Head/hole -

King of self-confirmation. What I'm saying is right. I know it's right, cos I'm the one saying it.!.....You idiot......

If you can provide just one example of this in my entire post history i'll stop posting for a month.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:51 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:If you can provide just one example of this in my entire post history i'll stop posting for a month.

And of course he should also provide an example of him being proved wrong and then accepting that fact, just so we know that what he’s accused you of isn’t exactly what he does.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:52 am

martin_p wrote:And of course he should also provide an example of him being proved wrong and then accepting that fact, just so we know that what he’s accused you of isn’t exactly what he does.

These anti-intellectuals do enjoy projecting.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:02 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:I search for information that either supports or disproving my position. Tell me what's wrong with that? Do you not like it when someone has facts to support their position?

I just imagine you in a frenzy sometimes and find it hilarious.
Helps me to not take you seriously anymore.

You do come across as desperate at times.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:08 am

I think he might sound desperate because it's infuriating trying to discuss proven facts with f*cking idiots.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:11 am

martin_p wrote:And of course he should also provide an example of him being proved wrong and then accepting that fact, just so we know that what he’s accused you of isn’t exactly what he does.

I'm often wrong Marty.

Now then, where's that evidence that leaving the EU and ending free movement of people would not help to stop exploitation and people trafficking!!!!!!????

Marty where is It!!!

You claimed you had had evidence. I only had an opinion!! That was back in October Marty! Is the Delorean still not able to transport you to the future !!!??

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:12 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Only an idiot thinks i call people stupid because they disagree with me.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:12 am

Sidney1st wrote:I just imagine you in a frenzy sometimes and find it hilarious.
Helps me to not take you seriously anymore.

You do come across as desperate at times.

So if i claim that I am right and you are wrong, it makes it LESS likely that you'll take me seriously if i prove it?

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:13 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:I think he might sound desperate because it's infuriating trying to discuss proven facts with f*cking idiots.

The security code has stopped playing up in the turtle bunker! Freedom!!!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:13 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:I think he might sound desperate because it's infuriating trying to discuss proven facts with f*cking idiots.

No. It's hilarious.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:14 am

RingoMcCartney wrote:

I'm often wrong Marty.

First factual thing Ringo has posted......ever!!!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:18 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:If you can provide just one example of this in my entire post history i'll stop posting for a month.

I'll let you do the research! You've got a crack team of in the bunker for that. They did commendable work for you last week when you proudly presented my many past posts!

Are they on strike cos of a lack of LBGTXYZ and ethinic minority representation in the turtle bunker!?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:18 am

What trying to discuss facts with Ringo et al is like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGex0kLgNok

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:19 am

martin_p wrote:First factual thing Ringo has posted......ever!!!

Marty's Delorean is knackered.

Second.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:19 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:So if i claim that I am right and you are wrong, it makes it LESS likely that you'll take me seriously if i prove it?

If I'm wrong then I'm wrong, I don't lose sleep over it.
Nor do I desperately scour the internet to find a link saying I'm right.
It generally isn't worth my time anymore getting into a ******* contest with you or the other anal retentive people on here, so I tend to not take many discussions on here so seriously because what's the point?
I've been told my attitude on here is poor, people don't respect me etc and that's amusing in itself.
Being right isn't the most important thing in my life, I just object when certain trolls/dick heads claim that I know nothing about certain things, but nowadays I've learnt to block certain people and walkaway from responding to them.

Yeah you're right a lot of the time, but you clearly spend more time scouring the internet for things to back up anything you talk about, I prefer to spend my time online gaming or working to being on here now and I've felt like that for a while.
I'm going to read more than I comment in the future anyway, so you keep fapping away at your keyboard, I enjoy the laughs.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:24 am

If you know the facts in the first place, you don't need to scour the internet to back up an opinion.

I base my opinions on fact. Facts I've learned through educating myself.

Unfortunately you guys fart out your opinion and then throw a wobbler when you're proven incorrect by facts we already know.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:30 am

Sidney1st wrote: Nor do I desperately scour the internet to find a link saying I'm right.

Neither do I.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:33 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:If you know the facts in the first place, you don't need to scour the internet to back up an opinion.

I base my opinions on fact. Facts I've learned through educating myself.

Unfortunately you guys fart out your opinion and then throw a wobbler when you're proven incorrect by facts we already know.

Yet when you're given facts and valid opinions you're a smug moron about it and claim we know nothing.
Even in your own links there's information that we give you and you're ignoring it because you're trolling.

That's why I've blocked you and don't bother responding to anything you say usually.

So you're just as guilty with farting out crap opinions.
Educate yourself all you like, but some people skills is the area you're massively lacking in.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:34 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Neither do I.

That's my opinion of you though.

Anyway, must go, on my way back to work and you're probably busy scouring the internet for more stuff.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:36 am

Sidney1st wrote: Educate yourself all you like, but some people skills is the area you're massively lacking in.

I give people respect when they deserve it

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:36 am

Sidney1st wrote:That's my opinion of you though.

Anyway, must go, on my way back to work and you're probably busy scouring the internet for more stuff.

But it's wrong. So i guess you're fine about that and accept it. Right?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:51 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:I give people respect when they deserve it

Same applies in your direction sunshine, you don't earn much from many people on here and that's because of how you behave and talk down your nose to people.

Anyway, have fun being a smug arse, you do seem to enjoy it.