Our final 3 matches...

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:23 am

Only 3 games to go....Brighton, Arsenal & Bournemouth.

Leicester & Everton can still finish above, so we need at least 4 points (if they win all of their games) to finish 7th.

How many points will we get?

(clearly, I am suffering from squeaky bum nervous syndrome)

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:27 am

1 point will suffice I think.

tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:28 am

Just win all 3 and we should be just about ok.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:32 am

They (our rivals) won't win all theirs, but.....

Brighton...win (three points)
Arsenal.....lose. (nowt)
B'mouth....win. (three points)

Giving us a nice total of 59 points.

Proudsville, Arizona.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:39 am

A win and a draw will be enough. And it's about time we got something off Arsenal.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:55 am

LoveCurryPies wrote:Only 3 games to go....Brighton, Arsenal & Bournemouth.

Leicester & Everton can still finish above, so we need at least 4 points (if they win all of their games) to finish 7th.

How many points will we get?

(clearly, I am suffering from squeaky bum nervous syndrome)

Can't Newcastle still catch us?

Everton have easiest run in.

Leicester have Arsenal at home and Spurs away in final two matches.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:00 am

We won't even need one point, don't worry.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:01 am

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Can't Newcastle still catch us?

Everton have easiest run in.

Leicester have Arsenal at home and Spurs away in final two matches.

Newcastle would need maximum points while we would have to lose our last 3. Not going to happen.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:05 am

Leicester will slay Arsenal and we will get 9 points

Up the Euro Clarets.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:09 am

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Can't Newcastle still catch us?

Everton have easiest run in.

Leicester have Arsenal at home and Spurs away in final two matches.

Everton have a goal difference of -14 compared to ours of +3 so a point means it's impossible for them to catch us with so many goals to make up.

MiltonKeynesClaret93 · Post by **MiltonKeynesClaret93** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:12 am

If we win on Saturday and Everton/Leicester fail to win (away to Huddersfield and Palace respectively) then 7th is mathematically guaranteed.
Everton's GD is 17 or 18 goals worse off though anyway.
No worries.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:15 am

Brighton (W) 2-0
Arsenal (L) 3-1
Bournemnouth (D) 2-2

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:26 am

Tall Paul wrote:We won't even need one point, don't worry.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

THIS !

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:27 am

We'll win the battle of the B's with two wins and draw at Arsenal with an injury time penalty

Clear 7th with 60 points and a good end to a great season.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:33 am

LoveCurryPies wrote:Only 3 games to go....Brighton, Arsenal & Bournemouth.

Leicester & Everton can still finish above, so we need at least 4 points (if they win all of their games) to finish 7th.

How many points will we get?

(clearly, I am suffering from squeaky bum nervous syndrome)

6 with an option on a 7th if we don't get robbed by Arsenal yet again.
PS: I don't believe we need any points at all - Everton's goal difference means they need a miracle of biblical proportions even if they did win all their remaining games and Leicester just aren't good enough, they lack consistency. Newcastle will NOT win 3 on the bounce.

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:33 am

Win all three, Arsenal lose at Manure and Leicester and it will be an interesting final day for 6th place.

Sorry to bring this up but if Arsenal win Europa League do we go straight into group stages? If not, does it make a difference if Chelsea win FA Cup?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:37 am

Tall Paul wrote:We won't even need one point, don't worry.

It would need Leicester to win three out of four or Everton to win all their remaining three games while we lose all ours.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:46 am

Everton also need a 17 goal swing I think.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:54 am

Bottom line is that if we win on Saturday, but Leicester don't we quality for Europe!

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:58 am

We owe Brighton one for the tarkowski episode. Looking forward to giving them a bit of grief. And Chris hughton as got to be a big contender for manager of the year.....

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:36 am

Spijed wrote:Everton have a goal difference of -14 compared to ours of +3 so a point means it's impossible for them to catch us with so many goals to make up.

Indeed.

Leicester have arguably the hardest run of games and are the only team with the slimmest of chances of overhauling us.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:38 am

7 or 9 points from last 3

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:41 am

We'll clinch it on Saturday, beat Brighton and Leicester will lose at Palace, all done and dusted

D8BFC · Post by **D8BFC** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:49 am

Everyone thinking we'll roll over Brighton worries me

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:53 am

Down_Rover wrote:Win all three, Arsenal lose at Manure and Leicester and it will be an interesting final day for 6th place.

Sorry to bring this up but if Arsenal win Europa League do we go straight into group stages? If not, does it make a difference if Chelsea win FA Cup?

There are no circumstances where finishing seventh and not winning one of the cups gets a team straight into the group stages.

Seventh is the lowest of the low and even if there are only two English teams in the Europa draw it does not meet the criteria of automatic group stage qualification.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:55 am

D8BFC wrote:Everyone thinking we'll roll over Brighton worries me

Why? The opinions of people on here won’t have any influence on the result.

D8BFC · Post by **D8BFC** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:56 am

I've probably been watching us too long!

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:56 am

tim_noone wrote:We owe Brighton one for the tarkowski episode. Looking forward to giving them a bit of grief. And Chris hughton as got to be a big contender for manager of the year.....

Why?
He won it when we were Champions three seasons go because he had managed to get Brighton, one of the favourites to go down into the play offs and they didnt get promoted.
Two seasons earlier a certain SD and his team were favourites for relegation, had to sell their best goal scorer Austin to balance the books, signed 3 players on a free Jones Heaton Arfield and one on a season loan Kightly, ended up runners up and promoted-and SD got jack ****.
What is all this about Chris Hughton

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:00 am

I think we've been reverting slowly back to the boring hoofball recently in preperation for this scenario. It's job done as far as I'm concerned, but a bore draw or 2 will seal it, and we all know we are more than capable of providing them.

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:37 am

Leicester will have to win two of three against Crystal Palace, Arsenal and Spuds to stand a chance. Tough in any circumstances but they have only taken one point from matches against Newcastle, us and Southampton.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:22 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Can't Newcastle still catch us?

If they win all their 4 games they would be on 53 points but we still have a superior goal difference.

moaninclaret · Post by **moaninclaret** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:27 pm

Dont think Everton will catch us, Leicester are a bigger threat with their game in hand, a win on saturday will see us home and dry, still a bit of a squeaky bum time though. 2 of our games are defiantly winnable the other not so, we all know who they are.So on Saturday teatime i will be dashing home, digging out my passport, washing my holiday shorts and selling everything i own on Ebay to fund a trip to Europe, i just hope our first qualifier is somewhere warm, Portugal, Spain anywhere but Iceland or Norway. Here come the Clarets

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:51 pm

Some poor maths going on here. Everton can reach 54 points if they win there 3 games. We have 53 so we need at least 1 point to even make goal difference a factor

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:28 pm

Magic points is the answer. For those who dont understand the logic it works as follows. Magic points are the total number of points required to guarantee 7th place. The points required is the total points gained by Burnley and dropped by the other team ( in this case Leicester/Everton).

Our magic points are Leicester 4 and Everton 2. These totals do not rely on our goal difference being superior.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:59 pm

We'll get four more points with a win at Arsenal and a draw and defeat at the hands of the other two.

RidgeClaret · Post by **RidgeClaret** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:29 pm

Win all 3, Arsenal lose at Man U and draw with Leicester - 6th place sorted.

Not had a drink yet either!!!

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:34 pm

We can slice the numbers anyway we like.
However, realistically, I don't think we're in any danger whatsoever of missing out
on a Euro place.

Chill.

rishtonclaret · Post by **rishtonclaret** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:09 pm

We need a win and a draw i.e., 4 points to be sure. 2 games at home and unlikely Everton or Leicester will win all their remaining games, with some against teams with something to play for. So we should be OK all being well. Hope so anyway as I've intentionally not booked my summer holidays so we can go wherever Burnley hopefully end up and the Mrs has already been put on notice we're going!

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:53 pm

Whoever thought at the start of the season, that we would be worrying about whether we finish 6th, 7th or 8th?

Can’t remember anyone suggesting we might be playing in Europe. Incredible times!

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:04 pm

I think we'll get 4 regular points and 2 magic points. That should see us secure in 7th.

yorkyclaret · Post by **yorkyclaret** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:09 pm

As long as we beat these dirty ***** on Saturday I couldn't give a **** about the other games.

claret54 · Post by **claret54** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:17 pm

I am more focused on how we can come 6th.
Arsenal have four matches left. Home against us and away at Man U Leicester and Huddersfield. There away form is rubbish so even two wins and a draw at the Emirates might get us 6th if Arsenal lose two and draw the other
Obviously a win at the Emirates would put us in a really good position. We are playing with increasing confidence so every reason to think that 6th is a good possibility.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:41 pm

I can't believe the pessimism on here about the Arsenal match.
There next three games before us are:
Atletico Madrid H
Man Ure A
Atletico A, possibility of ET & pens
If they beat Atletico they could have partied hard, if they lose they could be broken men.

WWW for me. and Bournemouth could be the toughest match.

cally611 · Post by **cally611** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:57 pm

For selfish reasons I need us to finish 6th as I got 80 to 1 at bookies pre season c'mon u clarets

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:30 pm

A WWW in our last three and finishing above Arsenal would certainly
crown the season beyond most, if not all, of our wildest dreams.
Well, certainly mine anyway.
I think more realistically we'll get the 4 points we require and be well secure in 7th spot.

Although I'm sure Dyche won't allow the players to get complacent (albeit they've been a few signs in the last
few games where we've had to 'buck up our ideas' especially in the second half's) and concentrate on not slipping up
now we're virtually there.
He'll also, along with the Chairman and club too have to start planning for an early start to the season
and if we get into the group stages at least another 6 games (I think it is) and playing quite a few Thursday
fixtures followed by Sunday ones back in the Premiership.
If we lose 2 or three players (hopefully no more) then even with Defour and Brady getting back
for the new season then we'll probably need to bring another two or three new faces at least.

It's going to be a tough start to next season and quite a lot of re-adjusting.
Hope we make a good fist of it.

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:42 pm

We probably couldn't have hoped for two better home games to ensure we get over the line. Long distance away-days for two safe teams who I assume are unlikely to bring a huge following.

Whilst we're not playing particularly fluently we are as effective and efficient as ever and would expect a minimum of four points.

Arsenal away took on a different meaning once it was announced that Wenger was leaving. It could go either way, especially after Atletico, but expect the tide of emotion to work in their favour.

None of the teams who could catch us are in the kind of form to suggest they are going to end the season with the wins required to cause any concern.

AshevilleNCClaret · Post by **AshevilleNCClaret** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:53 pm

I would love to catch arsenal. 2nd round qualifying for Europa is a minimum of 6 matches BEFORE the group stage. I think we could qualify for the group stage but it would take a lot out of the team.
It would be hysterical if Arsenal lose in the europa final, finish 7th (behind us) AND have to qualify to even get to the Group stage for next year's europa league.

claretcarrot93 · Post by **claretcarrot93** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:13 am

AshevilleNCClaret wrote:I would love to catch arsenal. 2nd round qualifying for Europa is a minimum of 6 matches BEFORE the group stage. I think we could qualify for the group stage but it would take a lot out of the team.
It would be hysterical if Arsenal lose in the europa final, finish 7th (behind us) AND have to qualify to even get to the Group stage for next year's europa league.

4 matches inst it?

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:23 pm

claret54 wrote:I am more focused on how we can come 6th.
Arsenal have four matches left. Home against us and away at Man U Leicester and Huddersfield. There away form is rubbish so even two wins and a draw at the Emirates might get us 6th if Arsenal lose two and draw the other
Obviously a win at the Emirates would put us in a really good position. We are playing with increasing confidence so every reason to think that 6th is a good possibility.

Arsenal Magic number to finish 6th is 5 assuming they maintain their superior goal difference. So if they beat us they are 6th,

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:31 pm

tim_noone wrote:We owe Brighton one for the tarkowski episode. Looking forward to giving them a bit of grief. And Chris hughton as got to be a big contender for manager of the year.....

Runner up to Dyche.