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Imploding Turtle
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by Imploding Turtle » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:21 pm
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From the last 10 minutes or so
Not one of those express that they are gutted about anything.
Would you like to keep trying?
Helpful hint: Try to not make things up about people. When you avoid making things up it's much easier to prove the things you claim.
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by AndrewJB » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:28 pm
Trump's economic policies serve to highlight the inconsistencies on this board. Bear in mind that his tax giveaway to the extremely rich has created a huge budget deficit. Isn't it the received wisdom on here that budget deficits unfairly burden future generations who have to pay it all off? Rather than being 'good with the economy' - by the reasoning of many people here isn't he actually a complete idiot?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/us/p ... trump.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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by Damo » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:39 pm
Imploding Turtle wrote:Not one of those express that they are gutted about anything.
Would you like to keep trying?
Helpful hint: Try to not make things up about people. When you avoid making things up it's much easier to prove the things you claim.
I'm sure you could find some yourself Charlie.
Probably on your own time line
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by Imploding Turtle » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:41 pm
AndrewJB wrote:Trump's economic policies serve to highlight the inconsistencies on this board. Bear in mind that his tax giveaway to the extremely rich has created a huge budget deficit. Isn't it the received wisdom on here that budget deficits unfairly burden future generations who have to pay it all off? Rather than being 'good with the economy' - by the reasoning of many people here isn't he actually a complete idiot?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/us/p ... trump.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's particularly amazing because Republican's like to blame the huge US national debt on Obama because most of it happens while he was president, yet they don't want anyone to understadn that the reason most of it happened under Obama is because Bush ****** up the economy so bad that Obama had to spend his entire presidency reducing an absolutely massive budget deficit (one even bigger than the one Trump is creating), and because of that deficit the debt exploded. Obama reduced the deficit by something like two-thirds despite Republican obstructionism in congress. And private sector jobs grew month-by-month for about 7 straight years - the longest in US history - but Trump and Republicans was the American public to believe that Obama was devastating for the economy, or something. And then as soon Trump took office what did he do? Celebrated how he created jobs in February 2017.
The only things Trump has actually done has hurt the EU economy. His attempt to create a trade war with China, which he stupidly says would be a good thing, is hurting the very people who voted for him because China isn't stupid and made sure their retaliatory tariffs were targeted at Trump voters. And the tax cuts that were supposed to give relieve to blue collar workers have only really made the exceedingly rich a bit richer. But his voters are stupid and somehow they'll blame this on Hillary, or something.
Trump is everything the left was warning the right about. Fiscally irresponcible and fundamentally stupid. But the right still find excuses for him. It's really funny to watch.
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by Imploding Turtle » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:43 pm
Damo wrote:I'm sure you could find some yourself Charlie.
Probably on your own time line
You made a claim. It's your responcibility to support it.
I'm pretty sure you've done this before, haven't you? Said something is true and then when asked to support your claim you've ran away.
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by Damo » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:53 pm
Imploding Turtle wrote:You made a claim. It's your responcibility to support it.
I'm pretty sure you've done this before, haven't you? Said something is true and then when asked to support your claim you've ran away.
I just don't have the time or the energy that you have to go through 12 hours worth of trump comments to try and win an internet argument.
It's match day and I have no desire to waste it on an oddball like you
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by Imploding Turtle » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:55 pm
Damo wrote:I just don't have the time or the energy that you have to go through 12 hours worth of trump comments to try and win an internet argument.
It's match day and I have no desire to waste it on an oddball like you
Deflect and denigrate. That's all you've got. Maybe try uttering some facts in future. They're much easier to support.
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by ClaretMoffitt » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:01 pm
Damo wrote:I just don't have the time or the energy that you have to go through 12 hours worth of trump comments to try and win an internet argument.
It's match day and I have no desire to waste it on an oddball like you
I'm like this, sometimes I want to but I just genuinely can't be arsed. Its a lot of effort for literally zero reward, just goes on forever.
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by Damo » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:11 pm
ClaretMoffitt wrote:I'm like this, sometimes I want to but I just genuinely can't be arsed. Its a lot of effort for literally zero reward, just goes on forever.
Plus, you are only ever one observation away from being reported when debating with charlie
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by Imploding Turtle » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:12 pm
ClaretMoffitt wrote:I'm like this, sometimes I want to but I just genuinely can't be arsed. Its a lot of effort for literally zero reward, just goes on forever.
It's so easy to support a fact. It's so hard to support a lie.
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by ClaretMoffitt » Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:05 pm
Damo wrote:Plus, you are only ever one observation away from being reported when debating with charlie
Didn't have him down as a reporter.
This true Turtle, can you confirm?
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by Imploding Turtle » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:48 pm
ClaretMoffitt wrote:Didn't have him down as a reporter.
This true Turtle, can you confirm?
I've started reporting troll posts, especially posts deliberately trying to derail a conversation. I've wasted enough time trying to explain to people why their trolling is damaging for the forum, and for it i get stick. So i'm not wasting my time any more.
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by Right_winger » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:51 pm
Imploding Turtle wrote:I've started reporting troll posts, especially posts deliberately trying to derail a conversation. I've wasted enough time trying to explain to people why their trolling is damaging for the forum, and for it i get stick. So i'm not wasting my time any more.
coming from the most prolific troll on here just wow.
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by KeighleyClaret » Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:59 am
Quickenthetempo wrote:Even if you don't like Trump you should give him credit when he does something good.
It's called being normal.
I will if and when he does. But so far he hasn't.
If anything his interference in Korea has been negative - and last week he was still persisting with his Rocket Man nonsense even when diplomacy was happening. The main catalysts for the talks were the Winter Olympics and the S Korean President. Trump needs to be kept well away before he ruins it all. I can see him refusing to withdraw US nuclear weapons, and wrecking the whole thing.
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by Imploding Turtle » Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:23 am
KeighleyClaret wrote:I will if and when he does. But so far he hasn't.
If anything his interference in Korea has been negative - and last week he was still persisting with his Rocket Man nonsense even when diplomacy was happening. The main catalysts for the talks were the Winter Olympics and the S Korean President. Trump needs to be kept well away before he ruins it all. I can see him refusing to withdraw US nuclear weapons, and wrecking the whole thing.
Trump will be Trump. He'll start a war if he thinks it'll make him look good. Just the toher week he bombed Syria (with Russia's permission, and their selected targets) just to make it look like he cares about the lives of innocent people, when we know he doesn't. He said during the campaign that the US should target innocent people, and then just before the Syria strikes he questioned his military officials after a strike about why they bothered to minimise civilian casualties.
The man is a wannabe tyrant.